Loot spawns - anyone else frustrated?

[Sniper-Wolf 37]

New Loot System is already into play, It will slowly remove items that alot of players pick up from the spawn tables.

 

Im seeing it already effecting my gameplay, I cant find 7.62x39 as easily as I did the first day .49 went live.

jeez no wonder why i keep finding .45 ACP ammo (doubt anyone picks up the 1911 and FNX's are hard to come by) as well as 5.56 and 9 mil. Good thing I found the m4A1 and a Mp5 early on xD

Edited September 22, 2014 by Sniper-Wolf

[leviski 2152]

jeez no wonder why i keep finding .45 ACP ammo (doubt anyone picks up the 1911 and FNX's are hard to come by) as well as 5.56 and 9 mil. Good thing I found the m4A1 and a Mp5 early on xD

I also found a mp5 early on, but sonofableep I somehow deleted it with a SMERSH backpack.

 

Hope oneday ill find another.

 

Hats off to you lucky sir.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

If you don't like the direction that the game appears to be going wait until mods and private shards come out where you'll have all the guns you want, or you could just play Epoch, which sounds like what you are looking for.

[liquidcactus 719]

I dont even really search for weapons.. Unless I stumble upon them I'm focused on staying away from people and those popular gun locations...

[Bororm 1156]

Its depends on rarity I dont know how wıll be in future but even if blaze or shotgun wıll going to be rare? You dont expect me to take down heavly armed clans with axe or crafted bow ?

 

I don't think guns are ever going to be that rare, they've put in too much effort for them.  High end stuff will probably be hard to come by, but I think there will always be common guns.

 

And the point still stands really, I used to kill guys with as50s and m107s in the mod with my axe.

[ColonelBurton 145]

Well I just found my first Mi-24 Hind spawn on NWAF and BOY OH BOY was I excited, since the server had just started fresh.

 

Since the UH-60 always spawned attachments to the M4 (but never an M4......) and I already had the AKM, I took the chance of getting sniped by one of the other few players on the server and ran right out to look for a picatinny handguard and a PSO-scope!

 

Imagine what a wonderful feeling it was to find

- Badly damaged boots

- Damaged boots

- A pristine gorka helmet (that, apparently, offers no melee protection btw)

- A box of 7.62x39 ammo

- some other common item I couldn't be bothered to remember

 

I've spent roughly the past 4 hours running from Vybor through airfields almost getting killed in the process to look for a heli-crash site or a regular handguard spawn. Then I finally find a freshly spawned heli crash site and it has the same garbage I would have found in any of the hangars across from it?

 

I think there should be a small reward for finding a heli crash site. Some, any item that is rare or impossible to find. Like in my case, the minimum I would expect to find is a PM-rak magazine or a CZ-527 carbine magazine. Not just some rancid old BOOTS!

 

Apart from the fact that it is POINTLESS to look for heli crash sites (one of my mates is now at around 10 hours look for an M4, found roughly a dozen blackhawks).....

So the developers decide to add a new weapon to a game that is in Alpha stage

They allow us to find some of said weapons, like the CZ-527 carbine, but make it extremely difficult to find magazines for it?

Aren't we supposed to test this stuff out? Shouldn't this new stuff spawn somewhat more commonly during the introduction version than "super-mega-stuff-of-legends-rare"?

I personally would have loved to try the CZ-527 out instead of always carrying Mosin, for example. But since it is ridiculously difficult to find mags for it, I decided not to.

Same goes for the Sporter .22 - I have never bothered to carry one because for a matter of fact, I was only ever able to find a 30 round mag or 10 round mag for it in the sandbag bunker @NWAF

So, in order to find a magazine for a civillian firearm, I have to head out to a military location.

Same goes for speedloaders and snaploaders, btw. I only find them in said sandbag bunker....

I also don't get why it's harder to find mags for pistols (except the damn Makarov, obviously) that it is to find an SKS. This type of thing makes the SKS an overpowered start-up weapon.

[ColonelBurton 145]

New Loot System is already into play, It will slowly remove items that alot of players pick up from the spawn tables.

 

Im seeing it already effecting my gameplay, I cant find 7.62x39 as easily as I did the first day .49 went live.

 

Then let's meet up and trade. I find 80 to 160 rounds on one single loot run from NWAF to Vybor Military Camp.

[Jex 1104]

So what about person who cant spend wholeday on game ? I cant spend long hours just for rare gun but there is someone who can do it. example: You wıll get powerfull guns just because you have time and luck then dominating server or area. This is not fair. Wrost thing is searching for rare gun doesnt requare any skill everything completely depends on luck. This is not right !!! I think desing of this game completely wrong.

 

Then you spend a few hours on the game and the next day you spend a few more. The point of the game is survival, not finding guns and of course it depends on luck - just like in real life or do you think you should just be handed a gun? How is the design wrong and what's your fix for it?

 

When you start playing this as a survival game instead of a pvp fest you'll enjoy it more, or leave.

 

Its depends on rarity I dont know how wıll be in future but even if blaze or shotgun wıll going to be rare? You dont expect me to take down heavly armed clans with axe or crafted bow ?

 

I don't expect you to take down a heavily armed clan at all with any gun, especially not a blaze or shotgun lol.

[Jex 1104]

Once private hives happen that are not connected to the hive I see no problem with this.

 

I do.

[Jex 1104]

Well I just found my first Mi-24 Hind spawn on NWAF and BOY OH BOY was I excited, since the server had just started fresh.

 

Since the UH-60 always spawned attachments to the M4 (but never an M4......) and I already had the AKM, I took the chance of getting sniped by one of the other few players on the server and ran right out to look for a picatinny handguard and a PSO-scope!

 

Imagine what a wonderful feeling it was to find

- Badly damaged boots

- Damaged boots

- A pristine gorka helmet (that, apparently, offers no melee protection btw)

- A box of 7.62x39 ammo

- some other common item I couldn't be bothered to remember

 

I've spent roughly the past 4 hours running from Vybor through airfields almost getting killed in the process to look for a heli-crash site or a regular handguard spawn. Then I finally find a freshly spawned heli crash site and it has the same garbage I would have found in any of the hangars across from it?

 

I think there should be a small reward for finding a heli crash site. Some, any item that is rare or impossible to find. Like in my case, the minimum I would expect to find is a PM-rak magazine or a CZ-527 carbine magazine. Not just some rancid old BOOTS!

 

 

LOL you found more than I did. A pair of boots (I suppose these are standard at heli crashes) and a ...

 

 

wait for it......

 

 

 

ooooh the suspense......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is it killing you yet?......

 

 

 

 

a.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

TACTICAL SHIRT!!!! WOOOT!

 

 

 

I tore that fucker up good too.

[ColonelBurton 145]

 

 

 

TACTICAL SHIRT!!!! WOOOT!

 

 

 

I tore that fucker up good too.

 

Wonder if that was my heli spawn on the south end of NWAF. A tactical shirt was the item I couldn't be bothered to remember.

[SniperwolfMR 153]

It baffles me to think that this is NOT the direction some people want the game to go. 

[georgiapeach 34]

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I personally would have loved to try the CZ-527 out instead of always carrying Mosin, for example. But since it is ridiculously difficult to find mags for it, I decided not to.

Same goes for the Sporter .22 - I have never bothered to carry one because for a matter of fact, I was only ever able to find a 30 round mag or 10 round mag for it in the sandbag bunker @NWAF

So, in order to find a magazine for a civillian firearm, I have to head out to a military location.

Same goes for speedloaders and snaploaders, btw. I only find them in said sandbag bunker....

I also don't get why it's harder to find mags for pistols (except the damn Makarov, obviously) that it is to find an SKS. This type of thing makes the SKS an overpowered start-up weapon.

 

I would love to try the CZ-527 too but did not pick it up cause i have yet to see a mag for it.

 

I used to carry a sportster due to abundance of ammo and mags i found.

I can not rememeber where i found all the mags (i even dropped a 30 and 2x10 round mags to make some space) but you could be right i visited some mil loot spawns (office, police, barracks...).

 

I found some arrows and finally a crossbow. Dropped my sportster for it.

was quite surprised that i can not load the arrows into the crossbow (did not know that i may need bolts for it).

 

and for my 1911 (was laying on the roof of a police car in vybor) i never saw a mag.

 

so where can i find mags for the 1911 and bolts? only in mil?

 

 

when the game will be balanced i hope that deer stands and 2 floor farms will get more interesting again. that were good places to loot for sneaky survivors in the mod.

 

i still look at deer stands when i come around and hope that someday i will find gear there again.

[Jex 1104]

Wonder if that was my heli spawn on the south end of NWAF. A tactical shirt was the item I couldn't be bothered to remember.

 

Nope this was the north end. more than half the chopper was buried under the ground too - i think it was a hip.

[aasand 92]

I like it better now. Not everyone is geared to the teeth and people seem to interact more because they aren't totally looted up and bored. I say keep the high-end weapons to a minimum.

Edited September 30, 2014 by aasand

[R0B3RTF1SH3R 66]

ok my take on the new loot system (weapons/ammo specifically)

 

spawn North east?

dont bother with caryards and jeeps. nothng there now.

that being said. novo tower/cop shop/ ch-polana firestation and red brick building. other than that. if you have an sks, tough finding ammo for it. you will probably run to neaf.

being in berez sucks now. all along the south east coast is rather sucky . svet might find some firefights.

 

not saying u dont get loot. 

ive taken to hanging around west side of the map. 

lots of military installations. lots of loots. 

 

if you want to gear u fast though. 

just kill other players.

 

after my rant in the other thread dying to a silent player with an axe while i was fully geared.

 

i spawned into cherno. seen a guy up top of a building. he left his longhorn at bottom of ladder cause he didnt have backpack. HAHA

so i took it. said 'you're ok dude. im not gonna shoot ya". "ill bring it back in a sec. there is a mosin sniper killing people out here.

 

ran round the corner. by 6 STACK building. you all know the one. right by train tracks.

3 bodies on a ground and the mosin sniper guy lying in among them pretending to play dead. 

shot him right in the face with that LUCKY 1 SHOT long horn.

 

thats all i had. no gear at all.

 

2 minutes later

 

i run off with ak101 + ps01 + grenade + hunters bp + protector cases + gorka gear + ammo out me ass, 

my friend ran in 2 mins later. picked up the remaining gear. (mosin + ammo's etc)

 

another sniper/mosin shot him 5 mins later. 
 

 

so yeah. not hard to get geared up now.

but i find 1 main thing going on sooooo much.

 

SPAWN. (where am i, oh east. suck , kill myself)

SPAWN. (berez.meh. check cop shop. meh. nothing jump off something)

SPAWN. (Novo, check tower,cop shop. chernya polana, nothing? ) kill myself

 

everyone spawn abuses trying to get electro/balota/cherno/kamishovo spawns. 

snipers intercept in those same cities waiting for you.

 

im loving hunting animals, fires , cooking, etc.  

i just not really a city man. love the wilderness in the game.

although most forests are rather boring. the landscapes are epic.

so yeah. I kill everything that moves. unless i have nothing to kill with. then i use manipulation. 

Edited September 30, 2014 by R0B3RTF1SH3R

[DeroQc 21]

What I have found so far with loot spawn weapons & ammo.

 

 

357 - ZERO

1911 - ZERO

 

These are the first guns I usually get when I respawn.  They always spawn in the fire stations, mostly on the top roof. I even found both guns up there at the same time. Check it out.

[ColonelBurton 145]

so where can i find mags for the 1911 and bolts? only in mil?

 

 

Not sure. I have one, and I think I picked it up in a fire station............. ...

 

EDIT: That was the 1911 mag in the fire station. Bolts you can find in a log cabin for example

Edited September 30, 2014 by ColonelBurton

[ColonelBurton 145]

Nope this was the north end. more than half the chopper was buried under the ground too - i think it was a hip.

 

Same here. Hip? You mean Hind, right?

[stielhandgranate 480]

I think the AK pattern rifles spawn is at a Goldilocks level of just right. Rare, yet not too rare that you can't find them. Since the update, I found six AKMs and three AK-101s, enough for me and my battle buddies. Very low amount of mags though, less than 10 but more than five of each. 

 

One thing too rare, the submachine guns. Why is the RAK and MP5 so damn rare when they should be the intermediate between civilian guns and automatic self loading rifles? On this update my group has secured two 30 round MP5 magazines, one 15 round magazine and zero MP5s, and no RAKs or it's magazines despite securing fresh crash sites.

 

Another thing that needs to be addressed is the military spawns being bloated with non military items such as Blaze 95 rifles, Double barrel shotguns,camping stoves and lights,clown masks, tools, and non military backpacks. The aforementioned should be removed from the military loot table.

[stielhandgranate 480]

Same here. Hip? You mean Hind, right?

 

No he means hip. The wreck is an Mi-8, a transport. There is no Mi-24 (HIND) wreck in DayZ.

[georgiapeach 34]

Not sure. I have one, and I think I picked it up in a fire station............. ...

 

EDIT: That was the 1911 mag in the fire station. Bolts you can find in a log cabin for example

 

thank you sir, appreciated.

did not know about the bolts but i check log cabins normally so time will tell.

[ColonelBurton 145]

No he means hip. The wreck is an Mi-8, a transport. There is no Mi-24 (HIND) wreck in DayZ.

 

 Oh, okay. I thought it was a Hind. Hard to tell, since it's half buried in the ground.

[Jex 1104]

 Oh, okay. I thought it was a Hind. Hard to tell, since it's half buried in the ground.

 

You mean it's like that on fucking purpose????

 

 

DEVSSSS!!!! FIX THIS NOW OMFGZ I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS SO SHODDY AFTER 10 DECADES OF ALPHA THIS IS UNACCEPTABLEZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAA WAAAA WAAAAAAA!!!!!

 

 

 

 

;)

[Mr Jizz 313]

The hardest part about the new loot system is that there's no easy way to find what you want any longer, which in general translates to better gameplay.  It should curtail server hopping, and it will make loot gathering a more difficult, though more fulfilling endeavor.  I feel that ammo is really not the commodity it once was, in other words, it's just a matter of time before you find the ammo you seek. The same can not be said for the guns.  The crashes are either bugged or the locations have changed, which has made them super difficult to find, eliminating a lot of possibilities.  I can't say that I'm upset about fewer M4-toting KOSers.  What I'm most butt hurt about is the fact that ammo cans only spawn at crashes.. this is just plain silly.  The military bases IRL would be littered with ammo cans.  I personally own three.  There's easily three ammo cans for every gun on a military base, so I can't understand why the developers are so set on making them impossibly rare.

 

In my experience (in order of frequency)- 

 

Rifles/long-guns - 

• SKS - Most frequent, seen them in the blue warehouses a couple times too; haven't seen a single stripper clip
• Shotgun - about as often as the SKS, no Hacksaws since the patch; speedloaders very infrequent
• AK101 - usually see one every third barrack building, mags much less frequent
• Mosin - Surprisingly few, always in white piano building or warehouse; found a stripper clip on the floor of a tent
• Blaze 95 - about as infrequent as the Mosin; speedloader very infrequent
• Sporter - seen it around, I normally don't even bother.  Without a mag its basically a nerf gun
• CZ527 - I've seen 3 since the patch: 1 in a barrack (probably left behind), and 2 in white piano houses
• AKM - NONE
• M4A1 - HELL NO, only seen 1 crash in 40 hrs of gameplay since the patch, and 'Yes' I know where to look, the map is online

Pistols/SMG - 

• Makharov - Spawn like canteens, LITTERING the floors of tents, mags also rather easy to come by. Actually found a tent that had three!
• 1911 - See them everywhere, especially in firehouses, NOT A SINGLE MAGAZINE since the patch (anyone got a suggestion?)
• Magnum - Infrequent, but I feel like when I do see one I'll find three in rapid succession.  Something screwy with the loot tables maybe. Only one speedloader since the patch
• CZ75 - Seen a few, but very infrequent. Also NO MAGS
• Walther P1 - I've just one since the patch, in a firehouse, NO MAGS
• FNX45 - NONE, can't find crashes.  I DID find a mag and I've been carrying it since.. like a unicorn horn
• Longhorn - Honestly forgot it was in the game, haven't seen one
• Amphibian .22 - see Longhorn
• MP5 - NONE, did however find a mag on the roof of a police station
• RAK - NONE, NO MAGS either

 

Here's how I'm seeing ammo (in order of frequency)-

 

• 9mm - I'm seeing those little green boxes and small piles of bullets to the point of annoyance- I think people are ditching it in favor of ammo they can find mags for, like .380 and Magnum
• .45 ACP - about as frequent as 9mm, probably for the same reason.. 1911 mags and FNX45 pistols are basically non-existent
• 5.56x45 - Seeing the beige 20-packs everywhere; military and civilian
• .22LR - about as common as the 5.56, but I usually ignore it, so I'm sure others do as well
• 7.62x39 - Plenty around the military installations, police barracks, once or twice in typical civilian top-loot structures
• 7.62x51 - Surprisingly infrequent.  It's out there, but not even remotely as frequent as it was.
• .380 ACP - Opposite to the 9mm and .45ACP, I think the infrequency of this ammo type is indicative of the ease of which you can find a Makharov and mags
• .357 Magnum - Like the 7.62x51, it's definitely out there, but not like it used to be.  Mostly seen it in white piano house, barracks and firehouses

So in terms of what you can actually find, your options (if you choose to loot instead of KOS) are the SKS, AK101, and Makharov.  Yes, there are more possibilities out there, but if you're just spawning into the game I would probably ignore 9mm, .22LR, .45ACP, and maybe the 5.56.  It's everywhere, which is tempting, but finding magazines to hold any of these is nearly impossible. The saving grace for the 7.62x39 is that you have two options (SKS & CZ527) that don't require a mag or clip for a full load. 

 

 

 

From the perspective of someone who doesn't KOS, or hunt other players for loot.

Edited September 30, 2014 by Mr Jizz