AKS-74U confirmed... could this mean...? no...

[Chaingunfighter 917]

Honestly after this aks74u I really hope we move onto some other weapons , I get the whole "true to the area vibe" but I don't wanna see more than 3 identical weapons (identical to the common eye) especially if they are going to make them use all the same ammo just for loot tables sake .. Id rather be seeing variants of 5.45/5.56 weapons as there are so many that don't look exactly alike .. One weapon I would love to see is fn-fal my favorite carbine of all time :) no optics or anything just bare iron sight one shot ftw.

I wouldn't say that the AK-101, AKM, or AKS-74U are identical at all. They're completely distinguishable. Granted, they're similar, but it's not as if they're comparing an AK-47 to an AKM, it's three different weapons platforms.

 

The FAL was automatic/burst fire in most instances, the first common semi-automatic variant was the L1A1. Also, there are plenty of attachments that the FN FAL can use.

 

If the 74u is chambered in 5.56x45mm I'm going to have an aneurysm.

Hence why I suggested the Zastava M85, which is really chambered in 5.56x45mm. I honestly don't think that they'll do it, because they said AKS-74U, and usually they'd word it differently if they were doing a Zastava, but who knows.

It's really between the AKMSU and AKS-74U, I was just throwing in the possibility.

 

Maybe they could work on fixing the basic foundations of the game first?

And what exactly are the artists and modelers going to do while the game is being fixed? You act as if creating new content is getting in the way of fixing bugs, both of which are completely separate fields.

 

 

Not for nothing, but there's already a thread on this. Which was unfortunately titled in such a way that made it seem like it wasn't about this very topic (because it is about a personal attachment to an argument, rather than the argument itself).

 

Anywho...

 

I wouldn't mind any of the above.

 

If they were to add 5.45x39 as well as an AKS-74U that would be lovely!

 

If they were to add a 5.56 SBR AK variant, that would be cool too!

 

If they were to add a 7.62x39 SBR AK variant, that would be just as cool!

 

I guess I might prefer the 7.62x39 SBR AK over a 5.56 SBR AK. Obviously, I'd rather they have an AKS-74U in 5.45x39 (as adding 5.45x39 would add an extra layer with which to balance ammunition rarity). But, given that I feel that's the least likely scenario, I'd go with a 7.62x39 SBR AK due to how problematic/divisive the prospect of another AK chambered in 5.56x45 is.

 

If they were to add 5.45x39 though, I'd want them to dump the AK-101, re-chamber it in 5.45, and then re-name it accordingly. No sense in then having an AK-101 and an AK-74M. And it's not like there's any shortage of distinct 5.56x45 weapons to take its place.

 

And yes, after they knock out all the requisite AK archetypes left over (i.e. a SBR AK and an HBAR AK), I think Warsaw Pact stuff needs to go on the backburner for a while (save for the SVD which is ostensibly finished already, and perhaps a PKM/RPD). Hopefully a battle rifle (like an M14, FAL, G3, or AR-10) is on the 1.0 weapons list.

 

I have to disagree that there's no sense in having both the AK-101 and AK-74M, even though I doubt that they'd do an AK-74M if they were going to pick other 5.45x39mm weapons. I still like the concept of the AK-101 being the AK-pattern rifle that uses AK attachments but western ammunition. Plus, it's already in the game at this point, so if they really wanted to, they could simply copy & paste the code.

My best guess is that we'll have the 7.62x39mm AKMSU anyway, but it doesn't really concern me. I just like the idea of having an AK-100 series rifle in the game.

 

It should be in 5.45x39. And they should clone AK 101 into AK 74 (paint furniture and mags orange). And we need some sort of holo sight for AKs. There, easy job and we get 2 new weapons. 

And I think its time for new NATO gun. M16, HK G36, L85 or maybe even FAL. There should be at least one new weapon of each clas every month. This is ALPHA, phase of development where you push as much content as you can. If you don't like more weapons, stick to your Mosin. After all, we can only carry two weapons at same time. Not 4 like in mod.

I don't know that we need new weapons of every class each month, we've already got a fairly regular weapons set as is. They could honestly drop all work on everything and just keep the guns as they are now, forgetting the MP-133, SVD, Rossi R92, derringer, AKS-74U, and whatever else they've got planned, and we'd still have an acceptable list of guns. Now, we'll obviously get those guns at the very least, and I'd say the MP-133 and SVD are necessary to fill niches that aren't really done now, but say they added all of those, and we'd be good.

Weapons take a fairly large amount of time to complete, and not all of the artists are working on guns. I'd definitely be happy if they added 3-4 guns every update, like the one with the Sporter-22, 1911, CR75, and Amphibia, but that can't happen every time.

[Katana67 2907]

I have to disagree that there's no sense in having both the AK-101 and AK-74M, even though I doubt that they'd do an AK-74M if they were going to pick other 5.45x39mm weapons. I still like the concept of the AK-101 being the AK-pattern rifle that uses AK attachments but western ammunition. Plus, it's already in the game at this point, so if they really wanted to, they could simply copy & paste the code.

My best guess is that we'll have the 7.62x39mm AKMSU anyway, but it doesn't really concern me. I just like the idea of having an AK-100 series rifle in the game.

 

But then (ostensibly, assuming that 5.56x45 remains rarer than 5.45x39 should it be implemented) the AK-74M would just be patently better than the AK-101. The AK-74M would be the same as the AK-101, just with more common ammunition. The AK-101 would just be a more-difficult-to-supply version of the AK-74M.

 

It would look the same too. That and, I'm sure you're aware, the AK-100 series has 5.45x39 and 7.62x39 weapons in it as well. The AK-101 is just the AK-74M chambered in 5.56, so it's not like the AK-101 is anything particularly unique by comparison.

[hells high 676]

You do know the M4A1 is a carbine?

 

I'm not sure where I mentioned the M4 wasn't a carbine or where I even mention the M4, so I'm not sure what you are getting at. I said if they are adding a carbine AK I'd like it to be 5.56, like the OP asked.

Edited September 7, 2014 by Hells High

[Chaingunfighter 917]

But then (ostensibly, assuming that 5.56x45 remains rarer than 5.45x39 should it be implemented) the AK-74M would just be patently better than the AK-101. The AK-74M would be the same as the AK-101, just with more common ammunition. The AK-101 would just be a more-difficult-to-supply version of the AK-74M.

 

It would look the same too. That and, I'm sure you're aware, the AK-100 series has 5.45x39 and 7.62x39 weapons in it as well. The AK-101 is just the AK-74M chambered in 5.56, so it's not like the AK-101 is anything particularly unique by comparison.

That's true, it's just that it already exists in the game, so I don't see why not to keep it :P

 

It's not really important right now anyway, because we're not even sure what's going to happen, all we know is that something like an AKS-74U is being worked on.

[Good Greef 29]

why would you want more of the same?

[Deathlove 2286]

Apparently the AKS-74U was confirmed as of this week's new devblog, and I'm honestly super excited, it's one of my favorite weapons and an absolute great choice for a carbine-length AK rifle.

 

However, the wording of "AKS-74U" begs the question... will the gun be an actual 5.45x39mm AKS-74U? Now, it's not a complete guarantee, because there's a 7.62x39mm variant of the AKS-74U called the "AKMSU", and then there are plenty of other similar ones, like Zastavas and whatnot, that also have 7.62x39mm and even 5.56x45mm options. (that's also not mentioning that they don't have to use a real caliber).

 

Here's a 5.45x39mm AKS-74U:

 

Compared to a 7.62x39mm AKMSU:

Compared to a 5.56x45mm Zastava M85:

Not a whole load of difference, right? (Granted, the M85 is fairly different from the first two, but it's still quite similar)

 

I'm not going to argue on the merits of adding 5.45x39mm (which I personally want, in order to allow better balancing of ARs and rifles, in addition to providing a round with (rather) unique ballistic characteristics. However, I do NOT care for the realism aspect, not at least on it's own.)

 

So, what does the community think/want. Would you prefer the AKS-74U, AKMSU, Zastava M85, all three, a combination of two, do you just not care, or what?

Its definitely one of the weapons iv been wanting besides the 101 and have suggested for Ak variants on the forums. Glad to finally see it pop up! :)

[-Gews- 7443]

I have to disagree that there's no sense in having both the AK-101 and AK-74M, even though I doubt that they'd do an AK-74M if they were going to pick other 5.45x39mm weapons. I still like the concept of the AK-101 being the AK-pattern rifle that uses AK attachments but western ammunition. Plus, it's already in the game at this point, so if they really wanted to, they could simply copy & paste the code.

Well, it's actually "not" in the game since the model is of an AK-74M, they'd have to alter it to make a proper AK-101 and it would just function and look pretty much the exact same so little or no point.

[Katana67 2907]

Just out of curiosity, and I don't really intend on being too provocative with this. More just curious.

 

But, do you think people would be as receptive if they were adding say... a Mk 18?

 

Which, to be clear, is just an SBR variant of a weapon/weapon platform we've already got in the game (i.e. the M4A1/AR-15). Much in the same way that the AKS-74U is just an SBR AK.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Katana67

[Chaingunfighter 917]

Well, it's actually "not" in the game since the model is of an AK-74M, they'd have to alter it to make a proper AK-101 and it would just function and look pretty much the exact same so little or no point.

There's little to no point in doing anything, the only reason they'd ever need to change anything is if they intended on adding 5.45x39mm ammunition. I'm just saying that they don't have to throw out the AK-101 even if it's near useless, considering the gun that the game calls the AK-101 is in game.

 

 

Just out of curiosity, and I don't really intend on being too provocative with this.

 

But, do you think people would be as receptive if they were adding say... a Mk 18?

 

Which, to be clear, is just an SBR variant of a weapon/weapon platform we've already got in the game (i.e. the M4A1/AR-15).

 

Well, from the more vocal people, they'd be a lot less receptive of a gun like the MK18 or M933. One, of course, because it's a Western weapon and anything that comes from the West must stay out of the holy grail we call Chernarus. Two, because it's almost exactly like an M4A1, save for the shorter barrel and a few minor differences.

 

The jump from an AKS-74U to an AKM/AK-101, or even AK-74, is honestly more significant than the jump from an AR-15 with a 14.5' barrel to one with an 11.5' or 10.5' barrel.

 

It's definitely not something I'd prioritize, but at some point in development an SBR-type AR-15 like the M933/MK18/M727/CAR-15 and a full length AR-15 like the M16 should probably be done, to give enhanced options to the plethora of M4A1 attachments.

If I had to pick I'd say the SBR type simply because most of them can accept (nearly) all of the M4A1 attachments, the only real differentiation is that the handguards aren't universal and some like the M727 and CAR-15 can't use the optics regularly, but all of them have the same magazines and can accept the stocks, bayonet, and suppressor.

[Katana67 2907]

The jump from an AKS-74U to an AKM/AK-101, or even AK-74, is honestly more significant than the jump from an AR-15 with a 14.5' barrel to one with an 11.5' or 10.5' barrel.

 

It's definitely not something I'd prioritize, but at some point in development an SBR-type AR-15 like the M933/MK18/M727/CAR-15 and a full length AR-15 like the M16 should probably be done, to give enhanced options to the plethora of M4A1 attachments.

If I had to pick I'd say the SBR type simply because most of them can accept (nearly) all of the M4A1 attachments, the only real differentiation is that the handguards aren't universal and some like the M727 and CAR-15 can't use the optics regularly, but all of them have the same magazines and can accept the stocks, bayonet, and suppressor.

 

Well they're never happy about anything, but, regardless... just from an aggregate (across the forums, DayZTV, Reddit, Twitter, etc.) I'm seeing a consistent amount of folks saying essentially "Oh, another AK." An outlook that I don't share at all, the more the merrier.

 

I'd agree that it's somewhat more significant, in the sense that the M4A1 is inherently more modular (in having an easily replaceable upper receiver). But that's more to do with the reality, rather than the concerns of DayZ.

 

As far as DayZ is concerned, they're both just weapons. There's no swapping of receivers or anything fancy. You've got an AK, and a SBR variant. You've got an AR-15, and a hypothetical SBR variant.

 

The AKS-74U is a hardcore SBR, its got a shorter barrel than a G36C. There's no real exact parallel to be found in military-issue AR-15s, but the principle (i.e. a SBR variant of a service rifle) is the same.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Katana67

[Chaingunfighter 917]

Well they're never happy about anything, but, regardless... just from an aggregate (across the forums, DayZTV, Reddit, Twitter, etc.) I'm seeing a consistent amount of folks saying essentially "Oh, another AK." An outlook that I don't share at all, the more the merrier.

 

I'd agree that it's somewhat more significant, in the sense that the M4A1 is inherently more modular (in having an easily replaceable upper receiver). But that's more to do with the reality, rather than the concerns of DayZ.

 

As far as DayZ is concerned, they're both just weapons. There's no swapping of receivers or anything fancy. You've got an AK, and a SBR variant. You've got an AR-15, and a hypothetical SBR variant.

 

The AKS-74U is a hardcore SBR, its got a shorter barrel than a G36C. There's no real exact parallel to be found in military-issue AR-15s, but the principle (i.e. a SBR variant of a service rifle) is the same.

Pretty much. I couldn't really care less what other people would think if they added either of them, though, because I want them in.

[-Gews- 7443]

I'm just saying that they don't have to throw out the AK-101 even if it's near useless, considering the gun that the game calls the AK-101 is in game.

They wouldn't be throwing it out, it uses an AK-74 model. It's just a renaming. They wouldn't add an AK-74, they'd just give the AK-101 the correct name. They wouldn't want to have the two different guns sharing the exact same AK-74 model and they probably wouldn't make a new magazine model for a near-identical AK-101. If we had AK-74, the AK-101 wouldn't be needed for gameplay, authenticity, variety, realism or any other reason.

[hombrecz 832]

correct me if wrong but Vz 58 accessories do not work with AKM accessories right ?

 

If that is true they can add the vz 58 as the low tech non adjustable version of the akm and resort to having the AKM be the high end 7.62x39 variant ak that has lots of accessories and modularity.

 

Well there are ways how to mount stuff on venerable vz.58 and some of it must have been Russian.

You got some wacky mounts like this:

 

But later, after Velvet revolution in 89, professional soldiers liked to pimp their vz.58's like this and mount western optics/colimators.

So in fact, vz.58 could be the "weird" Eastern weapon with ability to mount western optics :-D.

Although the same could be said about AK with aftermarket rails on it so...

 

 

I think the Sa. vz. 58 compact would have been a cool choice for an AKS-74U analog.

 

 

Looks different enough to me, plus is available in 5.56x45, so there's a bit of wiggle room.

 

Had to give you beans even though that 5.56 part sounded bit like a bait.

Btw in British TV series "Strike back" dude were using this short Vz.58 quite a lot. I think it was that 5.56 version as well.

 

Well they're never happy about anything, but, regardless...

 

Not sure who "they" are, but some folks would be utmost happy with game having correct/most common calibers for each weapon  ;)

 

Btw if I'm hijacking this thread, then I apologize to Chaingunfighter.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Hombre

[AP_Norris 1018]

AKS-74U and hopefully they decide to add 5.45x39mm

[Xbow 362]

why not the styr aug

I agree in RL the Aug its a fine weapon and would make a fine addition to the game. But if it came to a choice I suppose I would rather have a 7.62mm NATO HK G3 Sniper Rifle with a claw mount scope.

 

 

Its hard to beat a full power assault rifle that doubles quite nicely as a sniper rifle. 

Edited September 8, 2014 by Xbow

[igor-vk 909]

I wonder if AKS-74U will be able to excange parts with AKM and 101 that are now in game. Will it have real sceleton triangle butstock? Will we get any kind of silencer for it, or some kind of holo sights. I would like it to take railed handguard we have now in game and we get sights that atach on it. AK type sites are my least favorite.

[hombrecz 832]

I agree in RL the Aug its a fine weapon and would make a fine addition to the game. But if it came to a choice I suppose I would rather have a 7.62mm NATO HK G3 Sniper Rifle with a claw mount scope.

 

 

Its hard to beat a full power assault rifle that doubles quite nicely as a sniper rifle. 

 

Do you mean G3SG/1? The one that used 1.5 - 6x optics with claw mount and had still full auto mode?

Nice weapon indeed, but it might be tad too good since it would be like bundle of 7.62 assault rifle + powerfull and fast firing sniper rifle.

Personaly I kinda dislike weapons, that have no drawback, speaking from gameplay side of things.

 

But maybe those are just memories of DMR back in the mod. That baby did not even have full auto and was wrecking things left and right and still could be used with impunity due to having 20rnd mag and powerful 7.62x51 cartridge.

Another problem was, that it's ammo was way too common though. Can't understand why it also spawned in industrials O_o.

 

So personaly I'd prefer best snipers to be bolt action or slower firing semi-auto weapons, but that is just me.

I am also not saying that weapons should be "nerfed", but maybe devs can pick carefully which model to add into the game, as not to make anything overly too good.

 

Just my thoughts...

Edited September 8, 2014 by Hombre

[Xbow 362]

Do you mean G3SG/1? The one that used 1.5 - 6x optics with claw mount and had still full auto mode?

Nice weapon indeed, but it might be tad too good since it would be like bundle of 7.62 assault rifle + powerfull and fast firing sniper rifle.

Personaly I kinda dislike weapons, that have no drawback, speaking from gameplay side of things.

 

But maybe those are just memories of DMR back in the mod. That baby did not even have full auto and was wrecking things left and right and still could be used with impunity due to having 20rnd mag and powerful 7.62x51 cartridge.

Another problem was, that it's ammo was way too common though. Can't understand why it also spawned in industrials O_o.

 

So personaly I'd prefer best snipers to be bolt action or slower firing semi-auto weapons, but that is just me.

I am also not saying that weapons should be "nerfed", but maybe devs can pick carefully which model to add into the game, as not to make anything overly too good.

 

Just my thoughts...

They are going to add the SVD and that has the potential of being a god gun as well. But to me the weapons that are available now are satisfactory for the purposes of the game. By the by I have a semiautomatic Hk-91 and the same claw mount and 3 to 9 front focal plane mill dot scope and it is quite a bad ass weapon. The ability to fire full auto is just a nice to have feature primarily for suppression. In my view fast aimed shots are the ticket.

 

However I would like to see an end to adding more and more military hardware to the game and focus on adding high quality civilian bolt actions and some semi automatic civilian weapon such as the .30-06.(or .308 win) Remington model 742 with 10 round magazines.

 

[Chaingunfighter 917]

They wouldn't be throwing it out, it uses an AK-74 model. It's just a renaming. They wouldn't add an AK-74, they'd just give the AK-101 the correct name. They wouldn't want to have the two different guns sharing the exact same AK-74 model and they probably wouldn't make a new magazine model for a near-identical AK-101. If we had AK-74, the AK-101 wouldn't be needed for gameplay, authenticity, variety, realism or any other reason.

Ah, well, good point. Time for me to stop being stubborn and just admit that the AK-74 would probably be better all around, for nearly every reason, :P

 

Well there are ways how to mount stuff on venerable vz.58 and some of it must have been Russian.

You got some wacky mounts like this:

 

But later, after Velvet revolution in 89, professional soldiers liked to pimp their vz.58's like this and mount western optics/colimators.

So in fact, vz.58 could be the "weird" Eastern weapon with ability to mount western optics :-D.

Although the same could be said about AK with aftermarket rails on it so...

 

 

 

Had to give you beans even though that 5.56 part sounded bit like a bait.

Btw in British TV series "Strike back" dude were using this short Vz.58 quite a lot. I think it was that 5.56 version as well.

 

 

Not sure who "they" are, but some folks would be utmost happy with game having correct/most common calibers for each weapon  ;)

 

Btw if I'm hijacking this thread, then I apologize to Chaingunfighter.

You aren't hijacking the thread, because it pertains to the same idea of what's going to happen with different Eastern-type weapons later on. That, and it definitely wouldn't be the furthest we've ever pushed a thread off the bounds (I take responsibility for that, but nonetheless)

 

Though when we were talking about people, I wasn't actually referring to the correct calibers, just that some people wouldn't be happy with an M4A1 with the SBR because it's a Western rifle. Honestly I haven't seen anyone complain about the existence of Western guns in awhile, especially because they've been made accurately rare. The only reason that joke even came up was because the "Remove the M4A1" threads were a thing after the alpha was first released, and people vehemently argued that they had no place because they were "Western". But anyway...

 

 

I've actually always liked the idea of having the SA Vz.58 in the game, #1 because Chernarus is somewhat based on the Czech Republic, among other locations, #2 because the SA Vz.58 is the "AK that's not an AK", that's actually a completely different gun, and #3 because it's a cool rifle and definitely one of my favorites. The one demeaning factor for it is that on it's own (in a game) it's no real different than an AKM. It has far less recoil and reliability works differently, but for all intents and purposes it'd just be a second AKM.

I do like the idea of weapon-specific mounts for the VZ.58 that actually allow it to use the Western optics, more than just the railed handguard does, so that people who wanted to devote more time into the weapon would probably prefer an SA Vz.58 over the AKM when given the choice.

Either way, I wouldn't expect something like it until later on, because there are other niches that need more work. Still, beans for the awesome gun that should come some day.

 

I agree in RL the Aug its a fine weapon and would make a fine addition to the game. But if it came to a choice I suppose I would rather have a 7.62mm NATO HK G3 Sniper Rifle with a claw mount scope.

 

 

Its hard to beat a full power assault rifle that doubles quite nicely as a sniper rifle. 

Luckily both the G3 and the AUG were on the "gun wish list" according to Chris Torchia and Ivan Buchta. The G3 was mentioned a long time ago but considering they're still following the same list from years ago I wouldn't count it out, and if the artists don't do an AUG then Rocket probably will (He did the M4, and he's doing a derringer now)

 

 

 

I wonder if AKS-74U will be able to excange parts with AKM and 101 that are now in game. Will it have real sceleton triangle butstock? Will we get any kind of silencer for it, or some kind of holo sights. I would like it to take railed handguard we have now in game and we get sights that atach on it. AK type sites are my least favorite.

 

 

That's a good point, maybe it'll give them an incentive to add a CQB sight, like the Kobra. I haven't really thought about the handguard, but my guess is that it'd probably be interchangeable, or at least have it's own set of Wood/RIS/Black handguards. I'm superbly hoping for the skeleton-stock, not only for the AKS-74U, but also to create mock AKS-74 rifles, or actual AKS-74s, if they change the AK-101 into the AK-74M.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Chaingunfighter

[Chaingunfighter 917]

Do you mean G3SG/1? The one that used 1.5 - 6x optics with claw mount and had still full auto mode?

Nice weapon indeed, but it might be tad too good since it would be like bundle of 7.62 assault rifle + powerfull and fast firing sniper rifle.

Personaly I kinda dislike weapons, that have no drawback, speaking from gameplay side of things.

 

But maybe those are just memories of DMR back in the mod. That baby did not even have full auto and was wrecking things left and right and still could be used with impunity due to having 20rnd mag and powerful 7.62x51 cartridge.

Another problem was, that it's ammo was way too common though. Can't understand why it also spawned in industrials O_o.

 

So personaly I'd prefer best snipers to be bolt action or slower firing semi-auto weapons, but that is just me.

I am also not saying that weapons should be "nerfed", but maybe devs can pick carefully which model to add into the game, as not to make anything overly too good.

 

Just my thoughts...

ArmA 2's weapons had screwed up sway, limited recoil, no weight factor (which, to be fair, doesn't exist in DayZ, yet) and no environmental firing factors.

 

That, and the gun itself and ammunition were way too common. Rarely will anyone ever use a battle rifle in automatic/burst (when burst BRs were made), and sniper rifles even less, simply because it's ineffective. The only perk that having a select-fire receiver would do for the G3SG/1 would be to give it some utility in shorter ranges, but it's still a long rifle that would be outclassed by most ARs and SMGs.

Granted, I don't think the G3 itself needs to be made into the sniper variant, I'd prefer the PSG-1 if they really wanted to do a G3-model sniper, but that's just me.

 

However, I think you're just remembering the mod, which used guns and systems that weren't at all built for the kind of game DayZ was trying to be. Once fully refined, I honestly doubt they'll be any guns that have no drawbacks. Sure, there'll be guns that are clearly better than others, like the SKS to the CR527, but if there were fewer SKS rifles than you'd still have an incentive to use it if you were going for a 7.62x39mm primary.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Chaingunfighter

[igor-vk 909]

ok, what can we expect next? DayZ has some "strange" weapons we cant find in other games (Rosi 92, Blaze95, Longhorn, Amphibia S, Sporter 22) Will we get more common weapons like M16, DMR, G36 (or nay other from mod) or will they dig out another unique thing?

[falcon1439 20]

I'd like some ultra rare NATO weaponry such as the SA80 rather than loads of AK variants. However, being British makes me want some British weaponry so of course there is some bias here to wanting more British kit. Props to the devs to creating more weapons in such a short amount of time, however I'm really interested in how the derringer will turn out. Maybe you can conceal it and pull it out faster than any other gun. Would make for some interesting kills!

[Chaingunfighter 917]

I'd like some ultra rare NATO weaponry such as the SA80 rather than loads of AK variants. However, being British makes me want some British weaponry so of course there is some bias here to wanting more British kit. Props to the devs to creating more weapons in such a short amount of time, however I'm really interested in how the derringer will turn out. Maybe you can conceal it and pull it out faster than any other gun. Would make for some interesting kills!

That's the hope. At the very least, it'll be a backup weapon you carry just in case, simply because it takes up almost no space.

[hombrecz 832]

 

However, I think you're just remembering the mod, which used guns and systems that weren't at all built for the kind of game DayZ was trying to be. Once fully refined, I honestly doubt they'll be any guns that have no drawbacks. Sure, there'll be guns that are clearly better than others, like the SKS to the CR527, but if there were fewer SKS rifles than you'd still have an incentive to use it if you were going for a 7.62x39mm primary.

 

Yeah that can be the case, I've mentioned it myself.

Would be very interesting to see the final weapon list for DayZ and then have some discussion about weapons.

 

I also think that it's safe to assume  DayZ will receive more weapons of which  some will be of western provenience.

In the end, Western (NATO) weapons are more prevalent thanks to many sovereign states that are part of it.

 

I would be very surprised if we did not get some Heckler&Koch assaul rifle like G36 and/or G3 of some sorts.

Also some variant of Enfield L85 would not be out of place. We got UK pattern assault vests to go with it nicely.

Steyr AUG that Austrian soldiers uses could come too, although Austria is not member of NATO (which surprised me tbh).

 

I guess nobody can argue with NATO being in Chernarus at some point. 

Maybe the only "friction" point is the question of rarity of those weapons, ammo and attachments.

 

Btw thanks for supporting vz.58. I know I'm a bit biased, so it's nice to see other folks like that old workhorse as well.

[Khanarac 252]

Who actually cares, can we maybe get a burstfire weapon like M16 or AN-94? That would actually make a diffrence. Also sniperrifles that are actually equipped for real longrange shots without being forced to constantly fuck with your FoV, and actual machineguns.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Khanarac