trev186 389 Posted July 14, 2014 I have been contemplating making a robin hood type character for fun...hunt only well geared people and then dump their gear in the oceanBut bows and arrows are too weak in this game and also the loot spawns are stacked against you.1. Composite arrows are rare and mainly spawn at millitary sites..the army is not using many bows2. The bow requires u to be a master of stealth and is only mid to short range. I get that someone should have obvious advantages over a bow when armed with an AKM or m4..but if you get a shot in either arm or their chest and the arrow is still lodged in, there is no way in hell they are going to be able to turn around and aim and shoot u. Arguably most would pass out or shit themselves from the exp alone3. Quivers are either no longer in game or are super rare...My solution to this is:1. Make the shafts of arrows craftable from wood and have composite shafts with broadheads available in game.2. The wooden arrows can be crafted but do lower damage due to less penetration and also be less accurate. The broadheads should kill with a single shot to the chest & should inflict the pain debuff in the arms making it harder to fire. 3. Make a craftable quiver from leather4. Consider adding a true compound bow for greater range with sites & a stabelizer add onAs someone who grew up bow hunting this would fill me with glee 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrappleX 354 Posted July 14, 2014 I would like broadheads to cause a ton of bleeding damage. Like, if you get tagged and dont banadgaed in 20 or 30 seconds, your fucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alldaypk 63 Posted July 14, 2014 I really do hope they buff the bows, fix spawns and etc, but i feel they have other things to deal with atm. The craftable leather quiver sounds good and i think i heard somewhere that crafting arrows will soon be a thing. They just need to fix stealth, add the quiver and craftable arrows and the rest you may see fixed in beta testing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) I would like broadheads to cause a ton of bleeding damage. Like, if you get tagged and dont banadgaed in 20 or 30 seconds, your fucked. honestly should be less time to bleed...broad head is guaranteed to rip up vital organs...u would not be able to stop the internal bleeding It should be death anywhere on the chest Edited July 14, 2014 by trev186 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UltimateGentleman 355 Posted July 14, 2014 Yeah currently bolts and arrows are so rare the weapons might as well be classed as novelty weapons. I think for lighting fires they should add flint as an item anyway, so sticks + flint should make maybe 3 arrows. You should also need tape or string for them and a small hammer to shape the rocks(then they'd have a use) That would be cool. Perhaps crafted arrows have a 50/50 chance of breaking or something to balance it out, composite ones are what you want but crafted are easy to come by. Also yeah a craftable quiver is genius so long as there isn't a 5 bolt/arrow limit...And yeah I've not seen a quiver in forever not sure if they are in game. I'd like to have to use a crossbow or bow but currently fists are a more viable option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrappleX 354 Posted July 15, 2014 honestly should be less time to bleed...broad head is guaranteed to rip up vital organs...u would not be able to stop the internal bleeding It should be death anywhere on the chest. Id be good for that too. You might not die right away, but taking an arrow to the chest would guarantee your death over a little time. I like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 15, 2014 Id be good for that too. You might not die right away, but taking an arrow to the chest would guarantee your death over a little time. I like it.Arguably it should knock them unconscious A Large deer may be able to run off and bleed out but they only make it a few hundred feet if u hit them right.... Whereas a man is much less powerful and does not have such a strong instinctive drive as a deer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) I do agree that the crossbow/bow needs to be made better, as to make them viable for something. But in my mind, the crossbow/bow aren't there to supplant firearms. They're there to give the player a silent method of neutralizing zombies/players without having to find an ostensibly rare suppressor. Problem is, stealth is pretty much a non-factor as it stands right now. I don't ever think, or want this to be the case, that we'll all be running about with bows most of the time and have firearms be super rare. They have a specific use, and shouldn't be there to take the place of firearms. Edited July 15, 2014 by Katana67 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zeeabo 92 Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) I have been contemplating making a robin hood type character for fun...hunt only well geared people and then dump their gear in the ocean. Did you ever hear the story of Robin Hood? I believe his maxim was to "rob from the rich and give to the poor", not "kill the rich and destroy the loot". Just... Sayin'... Edited July 15, 2014 by zeeabo 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 15, 2014 Did you ever hear the story of Robin Hood? I believe his maxim was to "rob from the rich and give to the poor", not "kill the rich and destroy the loot". Just... Sayin'... Dayz style robin hood cause the bambis are more likely than not the bandits ur killing to take the gear from ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parazight 1599 Posted July 15, 2014 I've made a post recently in the 'Poison Arrows' thread encouraging arrows and bolts to apply a movement speed penalty in order to buff them without having to increase their base damage. What do you think?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 15, 2014 I've made a post recently in the 'Poison Arrows' thread encouraging arrows and bolts to apply a movement speed penalty in order to buff them without having to increase their base damage. What do you think?? no need for poison....having an arrow lodged in your body will restrict your movement plenty... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 15, 2014 went ahead and made a experimental character to do this on.... Hc had a cross bow and could not find rope. one nice pass over NWAF got some green gear and was looking good. Then server lags and i freeze while in a construction site....server unfreezes and i fly off cliff...was looking for rope but broke my own rule...don't go up stairs ...i deserved to die for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parazight 1599 Posted July 15, 2014 no need for poison....having an arrow lodged in your body will restrict your movement plenty...I don't believe that mechanic is currently inplemented. That being poison OR a debuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irish. 4886 Posted July 15, 2014 As soon as it becomes a viable option I am certainly going to start hunting players with a bow and arrow.. That will become my thing for a while.. crafting all supplies that I can and hunting for food off of well geared players.. give their loot away to freshies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
q.S Sachiel 470 Posted July 15, 2014 I took an arrow to the knee once... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irl-calibre 744 Posted July 15, 2014 It would be nice if we could attach russian scopes instead of us ones, also be able to retrieve bolts from AI's inventery when you kill them, red arch and piano houses have bolts as well, i'm pretty sure they don't spawn in barracks or hangar's only jails and ACT would be nice if their effective range was upped another 20 meters or so. haven't attempted killing a human with them yet so dunno how effective they are in that regard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timedance 120 Posted July 15, 2014 I really hope, that we can finally craft arrows in next update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) Toyed around with both Ashwood bow and cross bow some..Looking closly at the composite arrows they do appear to be broadheads.However the damage from both weapons is concerning. It takes so long to load an arrow that in the time u can ready a second arrow someone can just turn around and shoot u.The issue with quivers not spawning seems to be resolved cause now u can just place up to five arrows or bolts on either crossbow or ashwood bow. Arrows and bolts also fit in an ammo box. It would be nice to have a craftable quiver which you could wear though.Kitting up an all bow and arrow character is fairly easy. I am going for an all green/camo millitary look with crossbow on my back and ashwood bow in backpack. The ashwoodbow fits in a hunting pack. When you are not kitting up a pistol or rifle you can find most the gear pretty quick and have a lot of bag space. Aside from the shirt/pants/backpack/vest/helmet you only really need the bows & arrows. On expietmental the new weapon sway mechnaic is way to punishing to bows though. I could only hit two targets from an ambush position after sneaking up from behind. I was also only like 15 meters away. I had the target centered in my sites and the arrow would just hit the ground off to the side.The scoped position of the ashwood bow is horrible...for some reason they have you putting the bow horizontal and all you can see is you hand. Scoped position should be vertical and arrow should be visible to aid with aim. Edited July 15, 2014 by trev186 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted July 15, 2014 Love the suggestions. Using bows/crossbows is super lame, at the moment. They are weak, hard to find ammo for and have super shitty reload times. There is no reason for me to use one because "stealth" doesn't matter in DayZ right now.Other suggestion: Pulling an arrow from a zombie and shooting it into a player should cause sickness. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irl-calibre 744 Posted July 16, 2014 http://survival.outdoorlife.com/blogs/survivalist/2012/06/25-practical-survival-uses-duct-tape Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZomboWTF 527 Posted July 16, 2014 honestly should be less time to bleed...broad head is guaranteed to rip up vital organs...u would not be able to stop the internal bleeding It should be death anywhere on the chest you also can't just bandage over the wound of an 7.62x51mm wound and be fine if it hit your liver, lung or stomach.... this is a whole other topic though yes, buff the bow please, especially the part with craftable arrows why have a craftable weapon that is useless without extremely rare to find ammo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites