Train/Locomotive

[Odrakis (DayZ) 20]

Hey guys'n'gals!

 

Okay, at first, the topic might sound abit weird. But lemme explain what I mean and why:

 

I play DayZ since the first days of the mod. Remember those great days of exploring and sometimes find it sad that you can´t use vehicle X which is just used as a background?

 

A long time ago I watched a lets play of some guys - noobs - finding a locomotive somewhere near Cherno. They talked about it and actually thought you could repair and use the thing. That must´ve been somewhere around 2012.

 

Now, years later, think about it: how nice would it be if you could actually USE a locomotive (with or without the box cars) to go around the map/a certain/small area until the line is blocked by stuff?

 

What gave me that idea? I played The Walking Dead (the Telltale game, not the shitty one) where you had to fix a locomotive and then used it for your escape.

 

I really think it is a great idea! Dunno about the physics though, but it should be easier achieveable than programme a car physic or something.

 

What do you say - just for the LOLZ :D

 

TL;DR Version: What do you say about the idea of using trains/locomotives to get around?

Edited June 24, 2014 by Odrakis

[gqren 49]

I would love to be able to ride a train around the outskirts of the map =)

[tiadashi 262]

Or you could do what I do - run down the railroad tracks at night with a gas lamp playing train sounds in direct = fun times 8D

[Odrakis (DayZ) 20]

The train track are already there and going around the Island/map. So...how to reach a developer? :D

[pale1776 375]

Developer? They dont exist. Theyre really Czech unicorns. You dont find them, they find you.

[Odrakis (DayZ) 20]

Well, I hope so :D

I just LOVE my idea :lol:

 

Could add some Walking Dead style to it, realism and immersion!

[Mystic Bagel 128]

 How about a train that just continuously travels around the map? You would have to run along side and time the ladder properly and then jump aboard. Long enough that one group of guys couldn't just hijack the train and roll through killing everyone who tries to board. Sure would be a trip when a player suddenly spawns into the car your in.

I could be an interesting element.

 

Maybe having a coal car right behind the engine. To get the Train running, a player needs to shovel some coal into furnace to get it going, shovel and matches required, and it runs continuously for x amount of hrs.

 

Sounds like a good idea to me Odrakis, here, have some beans for breakfast!!

[Pvt_Larry (DayZ) 98]

Not the stealthiest vehicle out there...

 

Or the fastest...

[Odrakis (DayZ) 20]

Not the stealthiest vehicle out there...

 

Or the fastest...

 

Thats right, but what would you expect from a train?

 

Lets just assume 2 things for my train suggestion:

 

#1: your charakter is from chernarus and knows the country (very) well. You could take the train to go up to the north end of the map, the airfield for example. Or to go to Berezino.

#2: your charakter was a tourist before the outbreak and doesnt know a thing about the country. Just take the train and see where you are going - make an escape.

 

I mean that this could be the reasons to use a train in reality - and in return: in DayZ.

 

@Mystic Bagel:

I thought of it more than an old russion diesel locomotive where you have to use tons of fuel to get anywhere. It´s not that complicated to get a diesel locomotive to move as it is with a steam loco. Just use "some switches here and there". I think that could fit into the Arma/DayZ mechanics easily.

 

Oh, an thx for da beans :D

[frosti 2165]

There was mod for arma 2 to make train usable.

[frosti 2165]

Not the stealthiest vehicle out there...

 

Or the fastest...

 

But only Superman can stop you once you using it.

 

So using of the train should require a lot of work in collecting fuel for it etc, that would require group of people to do and be hell lot of work for single player.

Edited June 24, 2014 by Frosti

[pilgrim* 3514]

Edited June 24, 2014 by pilgrim

[frosti 2165]

 

And where is the freshpawn tied with the rope to the rails by bandits?

[Odrakis (DayZ) 20]

Hey Frosti!
But just think for a second - a train moves on tracks (big news :P) and just follows them. Instead in a truck or a car you can go anywhere and do some not-so-nice things to other players. What I mean is that the train is just bound to the tracks and can´t go anywhere.

 

I agree with the hell lot of work - thing. Let it be broken, let players find materials and so on. In The Walking Dead game you also had to work to get the thing to drive. Make it hard - but once you made it you get the satisfaction that you actually achieved something - like it was in the originally mod when you rebuild a heli or a truck :D

 

Edit@Pilgrim:

LOL, remembers me a lot of DayZ Origins. That could realy be an alternative for a locomotive. Never thought of that :thumbsup:

Edited June 24, 2014 by Odrakis

[OrLoK 16191]

Hello there

 

I posted this on reddit about 6 months ago.

 

Watch till end of credits. Be astounded.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

 

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1tjfpw/hype_train_premonition_or_coincidence/

Edited June 24, 2014 by orlok

[frosti 2165]

Also I think that train rails should be sabotagable with explosives or simply by players that use pick axe to destroy part of it.

 

Then people in the train can crash or stop, get out and try to fix the rails with materials.

[pilgrim* 3514]

And where is the freshpawn tied with the rope to the rails by bandits?

 

[AP_Norris 1018]

Hello there

 

I posted this on reddit about 6 months ago.

 

Watch till end of credits. Be astounded.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

 

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1tjfpw/hype_train_premonition_or_coincidence/

...Sometimes Lok, I just don't know about you.

[OrLoK 16191]

No? Dean Hall? no one?

[pilgrim* 3514]

No? Dean Hall? no one?

 

you have a great and touching faith in humanity. And you are an example to us all.

but the audience has to be willing to read, to assimilate what's written on flash cards

(particularly after the "end of the moving images")

This is why silent films died out

 

Is joke ..

Seek < The Gutenberg Parenthesis >

for fun, intellectual profit, and major pub discussion topic

Edited June 24, 2014 by pilgrim

[kichilron 8550]

No? Dean Hall? no one?

 

Yes, seen it. But I didn't want to give you that victory.

[slippery gypsy 107]

train was pretty good in Red dead redemption 
pretty good idea in survivors too
i assume there was some super power running a steam train in revolution
the busted ass train in mad max 3 was cool too

i like the idea 

[Mystic Bagel 128]

I thought of it more than an old russion diesel locomotive where you have to use tons of fuel to get anywhere. It´s not that complicated to get a diesel locomotive to move as it is with a steam loco. Just use "some switches here and there". I think that could fit into the Arma/DayZ mechanics easily.

 

Oh, an thx for da beans :D

 

I know that diesel would be more current, but finding the necessary quantity of fuel for it to be plausible, would wind up being completely prohibitive, if not going way out on a limb of realism. (2-3 cans of diesel to keep it running for x/time) Fuel should be fairly hard to come by.

 

 I know, HERE, where I live, we have train museums as well as historic trains that sometimes go out on the rails for special events. I KNOW in a small town where my dad lives, they run a steam train every summer for the tourists, the few that stop to use the washroom, lol 

 

Coal is by FAR the most widely used fuel for power generation in the world. It WOULD be completely plausible for a rail car filled with coal to be found, as well as steam engines. Coal is abundant, Diesel would be rare. Gas can spoil, coal...not so much.

 

As far as sabotaging tracks goes, I would think that would be ok, so long as the destructible locations were in limited quantities, and the materials readily available to repair them, otherwise the trains would almost always be stopped to fix tracks and no one would bother to use them, making it a waste of programing/server resources.

 

Autos vs Train? Unless we're going the route of 1000 vehicle servers and full gas cans everywhere, in which case I would no longer be interested in this game, running Auto's will be rare, fuel will be uncommon. Hopping the trains would be far safer than driving autos, and more clandestine as well. Trains would get you CLOSE to most places, autos would get you exactly to where your wanting to go, but in a land where the loudest noise is the wind & Rain.....everyone else will know exactly where your going too. You hear a auto, you KNOW someones coming....you hear and see the train coming, theres no guarantee anyone is still on it, you only know someone WAS on it at some point and its running out its fuel.

 

Obviously, these are just MY opinions and in no way should be taken as trying to  hijack and "Railroad" Odrakis' Idea.

 

I like it and think it has a TONNE of merit

 

Edited June 24, 2014 by Mystic Bagel

[Odrakis (DayZ) 20]

I like your idea with the coal, but I was going for the casual think like "just pour in some diesel and of you go". Sure, with a steam loco you could get in the same direction like "shovel in some coal and off you go". Just sayin': diesel would be more casual in the game but unrealistic due to what you said - it will be hard o come by in an apocalypse. Coal would be more realistic, but I dunno what it would do to the immersion of the game...or something like that :D

 

In the Mod, there was an old diesel engine standing around somewhere at Chernarus (or wa it Elektro?). I don´t know if the model is in the mod (never been south) but if it is - the model is in the game! That could be used and I guess it doesn´t need to be created from the scratch.

 

The, there are those hand powered cars. Love those thins and could give DayZ that DayZ Origins feeling: building vehicles with old stuff you find everywhere.

 

 

The destroying of tracks: if it fits in the game engine smooth, why not?

[valtsuh 68]

cool but unrealistic