Zombies are too hard (defending my opinion)

[JosephHabib 8]

Hello! I would just like to share some important points on why I think zombies are OP.

 

They are not suppose to be very powerfull in just like a 2 zombie group. The reason they are feared is because of Hordes not hitting power. 

 

People here are like "zombies are not suppose to be easy" and stuff like that. I agree too. I dont want an easy zombie game. No one does. People want a game that is challenging but not extremely hard.  

 

I love day Z and dont mind this much but it would really make gameplay better. New spawns have to face like 1-2 zombies at a time. If zombies are too powerful then they are just going to be killed easily.

 

Even aiming in the head with fists does not do much. Not anywhere near a 15 hit kill. May I remind you that being punched in the head a cople times can kill/ make you go unconscious. 

I like the game over all but I just wanted to defend my points.

[Katana67 2907]

Well, you didn't really defend your grievances so much as just state them.

 

But, have you considered picking up a firearm? Because the issues you cite with bringing down zombies are the case with melee weapons, in the current Stable build. Firearms drop zombies pretty quick in DayZ.

 

I want my zombies to be both numerous and hard-hitting.

Edited June 2, 2014 by Katana67

[Mos1ey 6301]

TBH it's not hard to survive without even being hit once as a fresh spawn as long as you don't attract more than one zombie at a time. Maybe the problem is the way that you're playing, not the game. :)

[JosephHabib 8]

I have tried many ways of playing the game and I am not done doing so. To find fire arms usually that would mean having to server jump at a police station if its looted and even if its not looted you have a large chance of finding one. Ammo is rare for some fire arms and sometimes you wont even be able to find ammo for firearms unless you are in an airfield. (even them you have a chance not to find even fire arms or ammo there which has happened). You guys make it sound like its a walk in the park. Im just saying that the game should have just a little bit less powerfull zombies or at least tone down the bleeding rate. This would not make the game easy it would just make it more fun because you know each time you fight one zombie "oh I wont bleed after being hit once".

[quantum2k6 348]

Fists vs Zombies...

 

Fist 1 - Zombie 0

 

they are not hard... u are playing wrong...

[JosephHabib 8]

What kind of points do you guys have on why they shouldnt tone down zombies? besides "it would be too easy" and "Maybe you just are playing it in a bad way" ?

[Rauchsauger 94]

If you hit them in the head with your fists they go down at once!

Since the patch I don't bother with a fireaxe any more since fists do the job really well

and can't get stuck in walls like the axes.

 

 

Hello! I would just like to share some important points on why I think zombies are OP.

 

They are not suppose to be very powerfull in just like a 2 zombie group. The reason they are feared is because of Hordes not hitting power. 

 

People here are like "zombies are not suppose to be easy" and stuff like that. I agree too. I dont want an easy zombie game. No one does. People want a game that is challenging but not extremely hard.  

 

I love day Z and dont mind this much but it would really make gameplay better. New spawns have to face like 1-2 zombies at a time. If zombies are too powerful then they are just going to be killed easily.

 

Even aiming in the head with fists does not do much. Not anywhere near a 15 hit kill. May I remind you that being punched in the head a cople times can kill/ make you go unconscious. 

I like the game over all but I just wanted to defend my points.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

It is very easy to dispatch them with fists. One hit to the head and they are KOed, which means you can continue punching them in the head until they die.

 

Also good melee weapons still dispatches them with only one hit to the head. I find nothing difficult about zombies in their current state and do very much look forward to both proper pathfinding as well as proper amount of them (lots more).

[JosephHabib 8]

its extremely hard to take on 2 zombies by hitting them in the head with your fists especially if you are a new spawn -___-   . They go down unconscience which is great! But they still need a swift head beating again and again till they die.

[SFRGaming 718]

I agree the horde aspect should be their strong point. But, with how the game engine performs and how it handles multiple people in one small area, I would rather have really strong single zombies now, and then so-so strong zombies that make up a HUGE horde whenever the engine can handle it later.

Edited June 2, 2014 by Shadow134

[BeefBacon 1185]

I'd like to see zombies nerfed a little bit. I'm tired of having my gear ruined because I had a little lag when a zombie ran at me. One time a single punch from a zombie ruined my pristine jacket and destroyed most of its contents.

 

I also don't like that zombies cause so much bleeding. I once died because every time I bandaged another zombie would run up to me, punch me, and then I'd start bleeding again. Rinse, repeat and eventually I'm out of bandages. Having loads of zombies punching me and causing bleeding is something that I'd have no issue with, but having a single zombie happy-slap all of my blood out is a bit of a piss-take.

 

I imagine that most of the issues that I (and others) have with zombies will be mitigated when the AI and pathing and whatnot has been properly implemented.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

I also don't like that zombies cause so much bleeding. I once died because every time I bandaged another zombie would run up to me, punch me, and then I'd start bleeding again. Rinse, repeat and eventually I'm out of bandages. Having loads of zombies punching me and causing bleeding is something that I'd have no issue with, but having a single zombie happy-slap all of my blood out is a bit of a piss-take.

 

They taught you they very valuable lesson that you don't bandage unless you are absolutely sure you are in a safe spot (which currently means up some stairs, or just take out every zombie around before bandaging). Or then again, judging by your post, perhaps they didn't...

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

I imagine that most of the issues that I (and others) have with zombies will be mitigated when the AI and pathing and whatnot has been properly implemented.

 

I don't see how the issues you have about them causing bleeding and ruination of your items should be fixed by pathing and optimisation of game to enable more zombies. They can be fixed by not letting yourself getting hit by zombies though.

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

So, a few thoughts:

 

Zombies as they're implemented now are a threat to noone. And I mean absolutely noone. If you die from a zombie now you're drunk or don't have  a keyboard that works. Here's why:

1. If you strafe or run in circles it is impossible for a zombie to hit you. Period. You can avoid infinite zombies indefinitely, they simply cannot hit you.
2. If you combine #1 above but do it while strafing so you're facing them the hole time you can fight them indefinitely without dying. You can kill them with any weapon in the game quite easily this way. Sometimes I bare hand box them on purpose for fun - it might take 3 times knocking them down before you can kill them but it's not hard.
3. If you're running and a fast zombie is on your tail, you can zig zag, which done at the right interval makes it impossible for a zombie to hit you, at all. It's the same concept as #1 above.
4. If you combine running up hills with #3 above, you can have any number of zombies chase you up a hill, then you simply run down and 9 times out of 10 they fall to their deaths. If they don't fall to their death, find a steeper hill or just try again. Most zombies I kill I don't even need to break out a weapon to dispatch.

In summary - if anyone thinks zombies as they stand now are difficult, you should understand that you're lacking some major skills and understanding on how zombies work and how this game or any FPS for that matter should be played. I've watched fresh spawns get attacked by zombies and then try to "toe to toe" stand there and box them - anyone who does that will lose every time, but anyone who does that must realize that's like attempting to play tetris without rotating the pieces... you've effectively handicapped yourself and you will lose. If you try to fight zombie this way you'll also typically lose when fighting players as well.

 

I found this in the gallery which may help anyone who thinks zombies are hard:

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/197779-how-to-kill-zombies-without-getting-hit-for-newbies/

 

In conclusion - with the way zombies are currently implemented, if one kills you, it's (for lack of a nicer way to say it) really really really pathetic. It's next to impossible for zombies to hit you at all, and you can kill them without even hitting them! When the zombies are re-worked I hope all of that is fixed, because as it stands now they're about as dangerous as rabbits.

[patriots20068@yahoo.com 100]

I've never found the zombie in DayZ to be hard. They are a pain in the ass because they defy the laws of physics.

[Reg Park 160]

fine a bayonet and poke em in the head, it's usually a one hit kill.

[dodas 47]

the zombies are just fine , and they must be even harder . These kids should learn to team up someday to survive

[kimmaz 63]

Compared to the mod, the zombies are WAY easier! You can kill them with a pistol! you can kill them with a axe without taking damage!

 

In the mod i could loot balota-electro and make my way to stary for a car and not have a single zombie kill. running and looting buildings with 2 entrances. I could out run them between cities.

 

In Standalone they are a easier! Well i can't loot properly with 5-6 running behind me as i used to(they are not slow inside buildings), but i can just KILL them instead. I've ran through a city and piled up zombies. then killed 10-20 of them with a axe ffs! dont  even got hit once.. its all in your movement, not your weapon.

 

I'm working on my dodging skills tho, I'm forcing myself to not kill the last zombie, and have it on my tail when looting. Getting better and better. soon ill start with 2 zombies after me. 

[Element47 2481]

zombies need buff, not nerf. watch all the videos on youtube: players even ignore zombies completely, instead of dispatching them. as long as you feel comfortably safe in their presence, they are not threatening enough.

[kimmaz 63]

Imagine the current zombie, when they have fixed their path finding inside buildings and so they cant walk through walls. if you faced 50 of them in the street of berezino. Would be FUN, emptying your magazine into the mass and watch em fall!!

 

I thing path finding and amount of zombies will fix most issues. you would not run into a major city with a axe anymore, this would make smaller towns more populated also =P

[benets 9]

Zombies not hard, it only consumes time. I can easly take out 5 zombies with bare hands. It'll only take a lot of time.

[pillock 850]

Kill zombie with fists:

 

1) switch to 1st person view - this enables you to actually aim your punches properly.

2) find a zombie and run circles around it until you are familiar with its movement patterns (if you keep moving and don't stand still in front of it, it won't hit you ever).

3) when you're confident enough to try an attack, wait until it has lunged at you (and missed) and then move up behind it and punch it IN THE HEAD as many times as you can before it turns around - move away if it turns to face you.

4) it really doesn't take many head-punches to knock a zombie down - continue punching its HEAD ONLY as it is standing up - it will usually go down again before it has the chance to get a hit in of its own.

5) repeat the process until the zombie stops getting up again! (this usually only takes 2-3 knock-downs.)

 

Remember: run to the side if it starts to lunge - DO NOT MOVE BACKWARDS, because it will still hit you at a 10 meters distance if you are in front of the strike. Always err on the side of caution, and avoid the zombie's strikes rather than go for risky punches of your own.

[The-MCV- 149]

TBH it's not hard to survive without even being hit once as a fresh spawn as long as you don't attract more than one zombie at a time. Maybe the problem is the way that you're playing, not the game. :)

 

You can beat the biggest horde of zombies this game throws at you currently as fresh spawn. You strafe and they kill each others, then you kill what's left.

[Dennus (DayZ) 123]

People want a game that is challenging but not extremely hard.

Incorrect assumption! I want a game that IS extremely hard.

[kimmaz 63]

Incorrect assumption! I want a game that IS extremely hard.

 

HELL YEA!! Bring it on zombies!!