11tw 106 Posted May 26, 2014 One game which got the 'sneaking' element just right was The Last of Us, which allowed you to insta-kill zombies if you snuck up on them, using a shiv. The shiv would either break immediately, or if it were of higher quality, you could use it twice. This could be applied here too! Right now there is no really good way of killing zombies with melee weapons (I know alpha has glitches, save the comments) and a sneak attack kill for zombies would add a level of tension and intrigue that the game is currently missing. I suggest that certain items such as knives (which could be found as loot in kitchens) could be used when crouching to kill a zombie in one hit from behind. I just think this would add another layer of realism to the game, as real life survival is about weighing up options. For example, I am walking between houses in a city, and I spot a zombie. She hasn't seen me yet. do I:(a) avoid the zombie?(b) shoot it?© save ammo and punch it?(d) waste a knife and stab it? These choices make it a game of balancing different play styles, forcing you to learn and adapt to survive. Keen for feedback as always! 11tw 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Minion 943 Posted May 26, 2014 Right now there is no really good way of killing zombies with melee weapons (I know alpha has glitches, save the comments) and a sneak attack kill for zombies would add a level of tension and intrigue that the game is currently missing.Thats already implemented - if you aim for the head you deal much more damage and if not spotted zombies will stand still or walk around slowly so you can go for the head more easily. You need the fireaxe (op for zombie killing) for a oneshot though - but in my opinion oneshotting zombies with a knife doesn't make much sense. Right now its more about zombie awareness - sometimes they can see a hidden player behind two houses and three trees and sometimes they are unaware that someone is walking towards them with an axe raised. Cutting the hyper-awareness would make sneaking (and thus sneak attacks) much more viable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11tw 106 Posted May 26, 2014 When I say attack with a knife, I mean slitting throats, stabbing vital organs etc. I get that some would argue that this wouldn't kill a zombie (depends on the kind of zombie) but this would at least do some serious damage. So slit throat, axe chest, dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeefBacon 1185 Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Actually I sort of agree with this. If a zombie isn't aware of you then your melee attacks should do way, way more damage - to the point that most melee weapons can one-shot. Currently the only melee weapons worth using are things like axes and hoes. Knives, machetes, wrenches and pretty much every other melee weapon is near useless. If sneak attacks on zombies was a thing then weapons like knives would at least serve some purpose other than as a makeshift tin opener. Edited May 26, 2014 by BeefBacon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted May 26, 2014 Add sneak attacks against players too. (Throat slitting, choking using hands, wire, garrote, head locking, neck snapping, etc) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11tw 106 Posted May 27, 2014 I thought there might be some backlash to the sneak attacks on other players idea, but to be honest it makes sense. This will make it more realistic, and allow weaker people to kill people who have more equipment than them. This way recent spawns will stand more of a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benedictus 160 Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Bambis can kill geared toons if they are not wearing biker helmts. Just offer one proper fist into the middle of the face. E: Not sure though if the ernegy/hydration levels affect your resistance to KO. Edited May 27, 2014 by BENEDICTUS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INoEmo 29 Posted May 27, 2014 On the subject of weapons which could result in one hit kills and loss of a weapon. screw drivers, sharpened piece of metal/wood, chisel, etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pistaaaa 29 Posted May 27, 2014 Add sneak attacks against players too. (Throat slitting, choking using hands, wire, garrote, head locking, neck snapping, etc)Nope! The game is already too cruel and violent. I think handcuffs and forcefeeding are already too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matejkvassay 13 Posted May 27, 2014 Sneaking around zombies would be great. You can hide close to zombies and nobody would expect you are there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_sim0n 0 Posted June 23, 2014 This would be amazing against players and zombies, I can already imagine stabbing a distracted sniper in the back. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JIJOK 49 Posted June 23, 2014 which allowed you to insta-kill zombies if you snuck up on them too much SKyrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sencha 100 Posted June 23, 2014 Headshots on zombies should always be a one hit kill, even with a screwdriver. Destroy the brain and all that jazz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites