Any News on Global Chat?

[HIHBGaming 14]

Tbf I only found out about the walkie talkies in this thread, not tried them yet but for all the difference it makes it seems like a minute change.

 

Well it does solve the problem does it not? Admins could post a channel where people who find a walky talky could tune into and chat away, while others(who could care less) do not.

 

You need to find a walky talky yeah but I still don't see the issue. Those who don't want side or will disable it on their servers don't have to bother while others who do want it have it, once they find a walky talky.

[theirongiant 200]

 

I don't see how walkie talkies prevents you from broadcasting base locations any more than sidechat does. Okay so you need to get an item first, so you delay getting sidechat for 10-30 mins per life. 

First it's more realistic because you actually use somthing that would be plausible in real life, and you have to find it and also it needs batteries and not everyone carries them, so yes It is 100x times better than sidechat. Try and turn on your radio now, you won't even hear anyone on them. I always have it turned on, and have yet to hear anyone talking on it and spamming me locations to where bandits are etc....

 

I think you're just arguing semantics at this point, for all I hear about how crazy servers took over I never found any trouble finding good vanilla or close to vanilla servers, I ran one myself. If you take away the crazy players then you still are left with your 5/75 servers. There are 2 million DayZ owners and countless servers, there is enough room for everyones style of play. 

 

Find me 1 vanilla dayz server or close to being one with 1st person only and booth day and nightmode that is populated these days and I'll shut up....

 

 

There are only 4 servers that aren't half empty, I'm sure I could find you a ton in SA.

[Martmital 436]

You'll get what you are given, nothing more, nothing less.  Dean Hall gives no fucks about what you personally like or want.  

[theirongiant 200]

Well it does solve the problem does it not? Admins could post a channel where people who find a walky talky could tune into and chat away, while others(who could care less) do not.

 

You need to find a walky talky yeah but I still don't see the issue. Those who don't want side or will disable it on their servers don't have to bother while others who do want it have it, once they find a walky talky.

 

Probably but the difference seems minimal to me. My bugbear is with the 'everyone should play it my way' thing that creeps into these kind of discussions.

[theirongiant 200]

You'll get what you are given, nothing more, nothing less.  Dean Hall gives no fucks about what you personally like or want.  

 

But he gives enough of a fuck to provide options.

[HIHBGaming 14]

Probably but the difference seems minimal to me.

 

The major difference is there is still a choice. We as Admins don't have to disable it because we hate moderating it, leaving it a option if people want it. I'm still not seeing what anyone's problem would be with this and I hate side chat.

[theirongiant 200]

The major difference is there is still a choice. We as Admins don't have to disable it because we hate moderating it, leaving it a option if people want it. I'm still not seeing what anyone's problem would be with this and I hate side chat.

 

But the OP's post had exactly the same choice, if there is a difference it's that the OP's suggestion would cater for players like Kaboki by providing the option for it to be turned off globally so that no-one can chat. Walkie talkies are a worse option for him because the lack of options mean no servers cater for what he wants.

 

I'm happy to roll with the WT's, like I say I was more trying to make a point about choice.

Edited June 13, 2014 by theirongiant74

[Kaboki 62]

There are only 4 servers that aren't half empty, I'm sure I could find you a ton in SA.

 

Oh yeah, in SA I can find 1st person servers all the time that has people on it, in Dayz Mod there is noone. And if I find one it has 200+ vehicles 24/7 daylight and all that crap. Name 1 server that has this: 1st person only, day and night mode and vanilla settings like ZeroSurvival.net and has more than 15 players. I don't know what browser you have that magicly has alot of these servers, in my browser they are nonexistant. I would be forever grateful if you find one for me...

 

But the OP's post had exactly the same choice, if there is a difference it's that the OP's suggestion would cater for players like Kaboki by providing the option for it to be turned off global so that no-one can chat. Walkie talkie are a worse option for him because the lack of options mean no servers cater for what he wants.

 

 

Read all my posts and you'll see that having this option doesn't cater to me at all.... When Im a bandit I don't want everyone to know where Im doing it, and as it is in SA now, nobody gets announced where I am. And if they do it over walkie talkies, then fine, because that would be realistic, and youll have to find one first and not everyone would be listening, and when you got one it could get ruined too so you loose that ability or maybe your battery dies out etc. And not everyone has one from the start as they would with sidechat...

As it is now it's harder, and I think it should stay that way. Knowing where bandits are or announcing it should be a privilige you earn by finding these items ingame and not somehting you automaticly get when logging in. With sidechat the bambie would always know where to go and where not too to be safe, takes away all the risk of being a survivor....

 

And I have 2 walkie talkies, and it's always turned on on the default and another channel. I have not yet heard a single soul talking on them so for the moment even the walkie talkie doesn't serve as sidechat. I have yelled 100 of times into the mic on the default frequency and not once has my call been answered...Theres is no one spammign the frequencys with info at all, no one. Heck I even wish sometimes that more people talked with them, because it's a cool 'realistic feature'. I kinda feel like Rick in walking dead where he tries to connect with that first surviver he met but never get an answer...

If sidechat was there I'll bet it would be constant chatter there all the time just like in the mod and everyone would see it because they don't need to find a radio first..

Edited June 13, 2014 by Kaboki

[theirongiant 200]

Ach, we could kick this football around for days. At least we managed to have, for the most part, a decent discussion about it. I'm sure we all just want the best for the game. I'm going to bow out at this point, I've said my piece and my kip is calling. 

 

Night all.

[Yuval 221]

No. No sidechat. It will ruin the whole idea. Make side chat OFF on official servers and when (if) server files will be released make it a variable that turns it ON and OFF while the default is OFF. Also let people mute the SIDE CHAT'S VON (not the whole VoN thing but only the Sidechat's one while keeping text chat on)

[brumey 116]

Me too, but I have never made contact with anyone. What is the range of these things and why doesn't anybody use them? One time I made broadcast for hours but no one picked up and answered me..I have started to think maybe they don't work....

i am at chernogorsk

transmitting a signal every 5-15 miunutes

[Kaboki 62]

i am at chernogorsk

transmitting a signal every 5-15 miunutes

 

On stable or EXP, hardcore or regular, what server(im desparate :P )? Have you ever been able to make contact with anyone?

[xalienax 621]

The major difference is there is still a choice. We as Admins don't have to disable it because we hate moderating it, leaving it a option if people want it. I'm still not seeing what anyone's problem would be with this and I hate side chat.

solution: dont moderate it. its realyl that simple.

 

Baiting, trolling, and all. i dont know whats wrong with society that so many need thier delicate sensibilities sheltered and lack the ability to ignore somthing. i have NEVER been interrupted from an in-game activity because i couldnt pry my eye from reading side-chat. that said- it offeres abilty to socalize with the other players and if you dont like the comunity of that server either play somewhere else or completely ignore the sidechat. i dont see why this is a problem. if you want to feed the trolls suck it up when they offend you. i dont freaking care they called you this or that.

[brumey 116]

On stable or EXP, hardcore or regular, what server(im desparate :P )? Have you ever been able to make contact with anyone?

i have never been able to make contact

 

EXP  hardcore   SE ,   UK 0-19

[rickyriot 1009]

I detest side chat; voice or text. Anything that even vaguely hints towards a return to that is a massive no-no imo. Obviously there are some out there who like it but then for those sorts of people there is Skype.

[Kaboki 62]

i have never been able to make contact

 

EXP  hardcore   SE ,   UK 0-19

 

ah, I would have tried to contact you but I don't have radios on my EXP char, only on stable.. They are so hard to find....hope they make them spawn a little more so people will actually use them..

[HIHBGaming 14]

solution: dont moderate it. its realyl that simple.

 

Baiting, trolling, and all. i dont know whats wrong with society that so many need thier delicate sensibilities sheltered and lack the ability to ignore somthing. i have NEVER been interrupted from an in-game activity because i couldnt pry my eye from reading side-chat. that said- it offeres abilty to socalize with the other players and if you dont like the comunity of that server either play somewhere else or completely ignore the sidechat. i dont see why this is a problem. if you want to feed the trolls suck it up when they offend you. i dont freaking care they called you this or that.

 

There's no need to moderate it since side chat in it's old form is non existent or did you not get that?

 

But to say as an Admin we shouldn't moderate certain aspects of our servers to make sure everyone is playing on a level playing field or is not disrupting play in general, is ridiculous. The baiting, trolling and general stupidity that happens in side needed to be moderated. You're obviously a proponent of this behaviour, telling by your response.

[xalienax 621]

There's no need to moderate it since side chat in it's old form is non existent or did you not get that?

 

But to say as an Admin we shouldn't moderate certain aspects of our servers to make sure everyone is playing on a level playing field or is not disrupting play in general, is ridiculous. The baiting, trolling and general stupidity that happens in side needed to be moderated. You're obviously a proponent of this behaviour, telling by your response.

no im a proponent of "hands off" modertating. the only time i have EVER intervened as an admin is when it degenerated to balatant racism/ IRL threats/ etc.

 

calling other clans or players out and flaming them to provoke them into walking into your trap when they rage (in some attempt to come 'shut yuou up') is part of the metagame as far as im concerned. side chat as it was in the A2 mod was FINE. if you dont want it in your server dont enable it. simples. if you want to enforce "good behavior" and "respect" then thats on you to enforce. fine. you pay the bills you make the rules.

[Katana67 2907]

"ANY1 IN CHURNO?!"

 

"WTF WHY WON'T YOU PICK ME UP HELI?!"

 

"LEL THERES A GIRL IN THE SERVER"

 

 

/joke

 

But seriously, this is how sidechat actually is.

Edited June 16, 2014 by Katana67