Vegetarian Survivors

[ZomboWTF 527]

eating meat, and shooting humans (or animals) are completely unrelated subjects,

so are shooting guns and being pacifistic if you look at it in that way, though do you expect buddhism monks to shoot an AKM into the air just for enjoyment?

 

the subjects are very related, though they are different actions

 

or can you tell me a case where you can get good meat to eat on a regular basis without killing an animal at all?

Edited May 9, 2014 by Zombo

[okami (DayZ) 129]

A human must eat meat and fish at least once a week. When a vegetarian says "I don't need that, I get all my body needs from veg. stuff" - he is so wrong and that's a fact. There are specific molecules which are only in meet and fish and a human needs them.

 

I´m not a vegetarian at all but this is plain rubbish. What specific molecules are you talking about? What would be the consequence of not eating these mysterious molecules? Please enlighten me since the scientists of the world seem to hide the truth from us...

[qww 287]

so are shooting guns and being pacifistic if you look at it in that way, though do you expect buddhism monks to shoot an AKM into the air just for enjoyment?

 

the subjects are very related, though they are different actions

 

or can you tell me a case where you can get good meat to eat without killing an animal

yes meat comes from animals , thats a fact of life.

 

 

being vegetarian has nothing to do with shooting people, and just because you hunt animals does not mean you eat them.

[ZomboWTF 527]

yes meat comes from animals , thats a fact of life.

 

 

being vegetarian has nothing to do with shooting people, and just because you hunt animals does not mean you eat them.

just repeating your thesis doesn't validate it...

 

and to eat meat(human or animal), you have to actually hunt or kill them(human or animal), so these topics are indeed related...

if you dont want to get food poisoning that is

 

so are shooting guns and being pacifistic if you look at it in that way, though do you expect buddhism monks to shoot an AKM into the air just for enjoyment?

 

the subjects are very related, though they are different actions

 

or can you tell me a case where you can get good meat to eat on a regular basis without killing an animal at all?

 

you may try again

 

(edit: is that guy for real or trolling?)

Edited May 9, 2014 by Zombo

[qww 287]

just repeating your thesis doesn't validate it...

 

and to eat meat(human or animal), you have to actually hunt or kill them(human or animal), so these topics are indeed related...

if you dont want to get food poisoning that is

 

 

you may try again

 

(edit: is that guy for real or trolling?)

 

 

you typed

so it is not ok for a veggie player to kill an animal or eat tactical bacon, but pumping coast spawns full of lead is?

 

interesting concepts...

 

i replied : what has eating meat got to do with shooting people.

 

the answer is "nothing"

 

you can type more, or twist the argument to whatever you want. but shooting people, and eating meat, have nothing to do with each other.

[ZomboWTF 527]

the answer is "nothing"

 

 

so WHY is it nothing?

 

you can't just put a statement into the room without any backing it up and expect it to be true, wait a second:

 

bananas are blue

just because you say anything against blue bananas, doesn't mean they are yellow

 

^thats what you are doing

 

dear god...

[qww 287]

so WHY is it nothing?

 

you can't just put a statement into the room without any backing it up and expect it to be true, wait a second:

 

bananas are blue

just because you say anything against blue bananas, doesn't mean they are yellow

 

^thats what you are doing

 

dear god...

i dont feel i need to explain why eating meat has nothing do with shooting people, it is so obvious to me  to me that these subjects are unrelated.

[ZomboWTF 527]

i dont feel i need to explain why eating meat has nothing do with shooting people, it is so obvious to me  to me that these subjects are unrelated.

so why did you even bother to post an answer if you don't even have a point?

are you offended by it because you are a vegetarian soldier who thinks killing people is right but killing and eating animals is wrong?

 

what the serious flying f*ck, i'm done with this guy

Edited May 9, 2014 by Zombo

[ref 19]

Vegetarians are all doing one mistake, they believe they are eating enough healthy stuff. 

 

A human must eat meat and fish at least once a week. When a vegetarian says "I don't need that, I get all my body needs from veg. stuff" - he is so wrong and that's a fact. There are specific molecules which are only in meet and fish and a human needs them.  It's just like with the milk, you believe you get enough calcium from it? Truth is, the most of it doesn't stay in your body.

 

Therefore I don't care about vegetarian stuff ingame at all. There should be none, eat what you have, it's a survival. The situation is getting ruff and what kind of an idiot one must be to say "Here is a can of bacon but I will not eat it, I'm a vegetarian, I will starve out" This is ridiculous.

 

 

You know that's one of the biggest misconceptions about vegetarianism. Also, saying "and that's a fact" doesn't make what you say a fact. If you find some cold, hard proof then I'll change my stance.

 

http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/082510p20.shtml

http://www.acefitness.org/acefit/healthy-living-article/60/86/are-vegetarian-diets-safe/

 

Note: I'm not a vegetarian, but I will defend them when non-vegetarians think they are superior because they get all the mysterious "specific molecules"

[qww 287]

so why did you even bother to post an answer if you don't even have a point?

are you offended by it because you are a vegetarian soldier who thinks killing people is right but killing and eating animals is wrong?

 

what the serious flying f*ck, i'm done with this guy

i can see your rage, but i just asked a simpel question :

what has eating meat got to do with shooting people

 

so it is not ok for a veggie player to kill an animal or eat tactical bacon, but pumping coast spawns full of lead is?

 

interesting concepts...

you have typed a lot and tried to make out im stupid,  although the truth is that what you eat has nothing to do with shooting people or animals.

[ZomboWTF 527]

i can see your rage, but i just asked a simpel question :

what has eating meat got to do with shooting people

 

you have typed a lot and tried to make out im stupid,  although the truth is that what you eat has nothing to do with shooting people or animals.

i allready gave you an answer

and you blatantly ignored it and just said "thats not right"

 

try actually arguing next time

 

however:

 

You know that's one of the biggest misconceptions about vegetarianism. Also, saying "and that's a fact" doesn't make what you say a fact. If you find some cold, hard proof then I'll change my stance.

 

http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/082510p20.shtml

http://www.acefitness.org/acefit/healthy-living-article/60/86/are-vegetarian-diets-safe/

 

Note: I'm not a vegetarian, but I will defend them when non-vegetarians think they are superior because they get all the mysterious "specific molecules"

 

all things that are in meat can be switched with other things, like soja, the main reason why meat is so high in nutrition is it's proteins if i am correct, which is also in soj and many other

 

i think southpark even made a episode about that, something with rescuing cows and one of them getting "vaginitis" ^^

[ref 19]

i allready gave you an answer

and you blatantly ignored it and just said "thats not right"

 

try actually arguing next time

 

however:

 

 

all things that are in meat can be switched with other things, like soja, the main reason why meat is so high in nutrition is it's proteins if i am correct, which is also in soj and many other

 

i think southpark even made a episode about that, something with rescuing cows and one of them getting "vaginitis" ^^

 

Yeh but I think you mean soya :)

[over9000nukez 199]

I'm actually a vegetarian, have been for 5 or so years now, but I don't think meat is a NECCISARY thing right now, I'm not dying of hunger, so nothing has to die for just my taste buds, now if I were actually starving I would have to kill something, id regret it a little, but in the end id say it was for my life to go on , and my genes to continue.

 

are you a vegetarian is that why your asking?

[ZomboWTF 527]

Yeh but I think you mean soya :)

yep, thats it

 

oh, and i think humans aren't even carnivores to begin with, we were originally fruit eaters

http://igelin.blog.de/2012/09/08/mensch-ausweislich-gebisskonstruktion-erkenntnissen-vergleichenden-gebissanatomie-frugivore-fruchtesser-sinne-bauer-gaertner-acker-feld-garten-ba-14695362/

 

sorry, only have that in german :-/

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Vegetarians were the first to go during the outbreak.  

 

/thread :D

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

A few times I've tried to survive on nothing but Tactical Bacon. Mmmm... bacon.

[qww 287]

i allready gave you an answer

and you blatantly ignored it and just said "thats not right"

 

try actually arguing next time

 

i dont need to argue, there is nothing to argue,

[SGT. Kalme 106]

yep, thats it

 

oh, and i think humans aren't even carnivores to begin with, we were originally fruit eaters

http://igelin.blog.de/2012/09/08/mensch-ausweislich-gebisskonstruktion-erkenntnissen-vergleichenden-gebissanatomie-frugivore-fruchtesser-sinne-bauer-gaertner-acker-feld-garten-ba-14695362/

 

sorry, only have that in german :-/

 

What we were and what we are are two different things.

 

Speculating where we originate from and who are our ancestors, what they were eating and such won't give us any profit in that matter because these would be all speculations and we still are what we are. I am most definitely carnivore. Doesn't matter what my ancestors were.

I'm actually a vegetarian, have been for 5 or so years now, but I don't think meat is a NECCISARY thing right now, I'm not dying of hunger, so nothing has to die for just my taste buds, now if I were actually starving I would have to kill something, id regret it a little, but in the end id say it was for my life to go on , and my genes to continue.

 

are you a vegetarian is that why your asking?

Lets ask from vegetarian then. For what reason did you decide to become vegetarian?

Many vegetarians I know decided to become one just because they think killing another living creature for food is wrong. Whatever it is, that does relate killing animal and vegetarianism - if you don't eat meat because you don't want animals to be killed for food then you shouldn't be killing another living creature yourself.

[stryker007 39]

While we are at it.... DayZ needs options for all the pacifists that have bought a copy!!

[Buffaloe 87]

Well, considering that mankind lived mainly of vegetal food for the longest time many people will probably be forced into vegetarianism.

 

However, missing the chance of gaining nutritional meat may be dentrimental. Especially if you have a rifle making the hunt way easier.

 

In the end I don't really think anyone would care about moral if (s)he was starving. Many people would probably even resort to cannibalism if it is necessary.

[Mathylde 3]

Many vegetarians I know decided to become one just because they think killing another living creature for food is wrong. Whatever it is, that does relate killing animal and vegetarianism - if you don't eat meat because you don't want animals to be killed for food then you shouldn't be killing another living creature yourself.

 

I'm not a vegetarian. But how I understand vegetarians it's more because there is no necessity to kill a living being, and no necessity for possible suffering of the said living beings. That's not the killing by it selfe that makes eating meat "bad". That the lake necessity of it. Of course, that doesn't apply to zealot-like vegies for whom eating meat = murdering.

 

I personnaly am more receptive to the (proven) argument stating that the ressources used to grow and feed animals for meat consumption could be used to directly feed humans with a much better efficiancy (resulting in lesser ecological impact and potencialy less starvation over the world by increassing the lands disponibility). That didn't made me a vegetarian, but that argument made me reduce the type and quantity of meat i eat. And paying more attention to the origin and quality of my food in general.

 

In DayZ, i feed my character with whatever i find that'll keep him alive, because it's a game and what you feed a character in a game doesn't matter. At all.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

The beauty of a sandbox game is you can be whatever you want. Don't want to eat meat? Then don't. Pointless thread.

[SGT. Kalme 106]

Well, considering that mankind lived mainly of vegetal food for the longest time many people will probably be forced into vegetarianism.

 

However, missing the chance of gaining nutritional meat may be dentrimental. Especially if you have a rifle making the hunt way easier.

 

In the end I don't really think anyone would care about moral if (s)he was starving. Many people would probably even resort to cannibalism if it is necessary.

Many people have been resort to cannibalism in history. Killing others for food or just eating ones that died to starvation. People would do bad things if it was necessary.

[SGT. Kalme 106]

I'm not a vegetarian. But how I understand vegetarians it's more because there is no necessity to kill a living being, and no necessity for possible suffering of the said living beings. That's not the killing by it selfe that makes eating meat "bad". That the lake necessity of it. Of course, that doesn't apply to zealot-like vegies for whom eating meat = murdering.

 

I personnaly am more receptive to the (proven) argument stating that the ressources used to grow and feed animals for meat consumption could be used to directly feed humans with a much better efficiancy (resulting in lesser ecological impact and potencialy less starvation over the world by increassing the lands disponibility). That didn't made me a vegetarian, but that argument made me reduce the type and quantity of meat i eat. And paying more attention to the origin and quality of my food in general.

 

In DayZ, i feed my character with whatever i find that'll keep him alive, because it's a game and what you feed a character in a game doesn't matter. At all.

Well, hunting wild game does not require edible resources to be wasted on growing animals and you get much more balanced meal when vegetables and meat is combined. I wouldn't give up eating meat any day because it does feed my organism. The way I see it. I don't really care what scientists say about that, it is my body, my organism and I know what I need to keep on living and going. It is not about killing, it is about food and what I choose to it.

Of course, I agree. There are many reasons why one becomes vegetarian. I don't judge them. But dayz will be purely made around what nature and broken down society offers, not to specifically fit anyones needs.

:)

[TheLoneSurvivior 37]

Lol.