jameslennoxhood 74 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Yup, And hackers are running rampant in Berezino! Edited May 8, 2014 by JamesLennoxHood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazed 71 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) I agree with this thread. Honestly the more I think about it, the more I think DayZ SA is just a fast cash grab for BIS & Rocket. "Hey dude this mod is very popular, more so than even Arma II itself... How do we cash in on this? because technically it's free" "I know dude let's strip out a shitload of things and make it a Stand alone product, then with the time we will make lazy ass updates to make the game seem alive." I really hope I am wrong but I'm doubtful, they will keep adding little bits and bobs to this game but if you want to stop hackers they will need to redesign the whole engine and make everything Server side/controlled, doubt it will happen though... Also that disclaimer on the steam page, reverse psychology, do NOT buy = but I want to buy it, lol. It is the disclaimer for any shortcomings that they already knew will exist. Edited May 8, 2014 by blazed 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted May 8, 2014 Where is this "Berenzino" of which you speak? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
preacherlr 614 Posted May 8, 2014 Where is this "Berenzino" of which you speak? Come on, Let him have his hissy fit.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bioned 36 Posted May 8, 2014 I agree with this thread.Honestly the more I think about it, the more I think DayZ SA is just a fast cash grab for BIS & Rocket."Hey dude this mod is very popular, more so than even Arma II itself... How do we cash in on this? because technically it's free""I know dude let's strip out a shitload of things and make it a Stand alone product, then with the time we will make lazy ass updates to make the game seem alive."I really hope I am wrong but I'm doubtful, they will keep adding little bits and bobs to this game but if you want to stop hackers they will need to redesign the whole engine and make everything Server side/controlled, doubt it will happen though...Also that disclaimer on the steam page, reverse psychology, do NOT buy = but I want to buy it, lol. It is the disclaimer for any shortcomings that they already knew will exist. i hope fanbois and (especially) rocket reads ur post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazed 71 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) i hope fanbois and (especially) rocket reads ur post I hope they all prove me wrong, I'll believe it when I see it, talk is cheap. Long ago (during the closed beta) in the official forums I said "TERA - ONLINE" was going to fail and why, people hated me on the forum and trolled the thread but in the end I was right. It was dying until they made it FREE to play, then it regain some life, but the fact that it went F2P already indicated that it failed as a paid product. Edited May 8, 2014 by blazed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skim (DayZ) 11 Posted May 8, 2014 Can't tell if I'm just (in general) lucky or unlucky, but I'd be running around Berezino or Cherno for half an hour and wouldn't find a single person. These are 40/40 servers, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jameslennoxhood 74 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) I agree with this thread.Honestly the more I think about it, the more I think DayZ SA is just a fast cash grab for BIS & Rocket."Hey dude this mod is very popular, more so than even Arma II itself... How do we cash in on this? because technically it's free""I know dude let's strip out a shitload of things and make it a Stand alone product, then with the time we will make lazy ass updates to make the game seem alive."I really hope I am wrong but I'm doubtful, they will keep adding little bits and bobs to this game but if you want to stop hackers they will need to redesign the whole engine and make everything Server side/controlled, doubt it will happen though...Also that disclaimer on the steam page, reverse psychology, do NOT buy = but I want to buy it, lol. It is the disclaimer for any shortcomings that they already knew will exist. Agreed, i believe in retail this strategy is referred to as the "Bait-and-Switch"! Edited May 8, 2014 by JamesLennoxHood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bastins 14 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) I agree with this thread.Honestly the more I think about it, the more I think DayZ SA is just a fast cash grab for BIS & Rocket."Hey dude this mod is very popular, more so than even Arma II itself... How do we cash in on this? because technically it's free""I know dude let's strip out a shitload of things and make it a Stand alone product, then with the time we will make lazy ass updates to make the game seem alive."I really hope I am wrong but I'm doubtful, they will keep adding little bits and bobs to this game but if you want to stop hackers they will need to redesign the whole engine and make everything Server side/controlled, doubt it will happen though... I can't say you're necessarily wrong, however, I can say that you don't seem to be taking into account how early in development the standalone is. In particular, thinking they stripped a "shitload of things" from the mod and called it a standalone game, is way off the mark. Edited May 8, 2014 by bastins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emigrates 261 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Come on, Let him have his hissy fit..I can feel the intense feeling of rage dwelling inside of him, I'm guessing they hid his body. Edit: fixed! Edited May 9, 2014 by emigrates 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyT 554 Posted May 8, 2014 Jesus get a tissue for Blazed... This game is a steal at the preorder price. Grow up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hannibaldaplaya 1095 Posted May 8, 2014 its the balotafield joke all over again, just not as funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
preacherlr 614 Posted May 8, 2014 I can feel the intense feeling of rage dwelling inside of him, I'm guessing they hid his body.Sadly I cannot give you moar beans.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n1kko 326 Posted May 8, 2014 All of these "DayZ SA in A nutshell" threads are absolute garbage.1. The game is in Alpha, and its set up the way it is ON PURPOSE to test the functionality of everything.2. You are CHOOSING to go to Berenzino. If you are tired of getting killed in Berenzino, guess what? DON'T GO THERE.3. These threads prove NOTHING.4. The guy that said is a cash grab: you are a complete moron. Its ALPHA. Either get that fact through your head, or go play something else. Jesus. You guys need to seriously think about what you are posting before you post it. If you don't like it, go play something else. Its that simple. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted May 8, 2014 This is dayz current state. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtvoFXxD0bs Janky, arcade mess. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emigrates 261 Posted May 8, 2014 Sadly I cannot give you moar beans..I do try :3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazed 71 Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Can feel the butthurt when people make direct insults at people."I can't make proper arguments and win by conveying my message, so I'll just throw in some insults, name calling and singling out someone." ~best forum posters ever. Here, I will help you like my teachers helped me in primary school. "I don't think DayZ is a cash grab or that it will fail because..."<insert couple of paragraphs explaining> <Avoid shit answers like a single word or short sentence> Edited May 9, 2014 by blazed 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scofflaw 73 Posted May 9, 2014 meh, I've been shooting everyone in berezino since we all started spawning there. I've been killed multiple times too. What else are we going to do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16185 Posted May 9, 2014 I agree with this thread.Honestly the more I think about it, the more I think DayZ SA is just a fast cash grab for BIS & Rocket."Hey dude this mod is very popular, more so than even Arma II itself... How do we cash in on this? because technically it's free""I know dude let's strip out a shitload of things and make it a Stand alone product, then with the time we will make lazy ass updates to make the game seem alive."I really hope I am wrong but I'm doubtful, they will keep adding little bits and bobs to this game but if you want to stop hackers they will need to redesign the whole engine and make everything Server side/controlled, doubt it will happen though...Also that disclaimer on the steam page, reverse psychology, do NOT buy = but I want to buy it, lol. It is the disclaimer for any shortcomings that they already knew will exist.Hello there OMG you are completely right!!!!!111!?!11 Its all a scam!!!!2!1111! It may well be not quite what many folk "expect" but damn, there's no scam and it disappoints me that folk seem to want to jump on that bandwagon. I will be happily chortling when the final SA 1.0 hits the street and although it may not be perfect I will be so happy watching many folk chowing down on their own words. Rgds LoK 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazed 71 Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Scam!!!!1110101010 I didn't say scam.I said cash grab. Cash grab relates to greed.Not Fraud. 2 Years ago DayZ was created as a Mod for free. Today we have DayZ SA at $29.99 offering basically less than what the mod did. Currently DayZ is just a Cash grab, whether or not that changes in the future depends on what BIS do with it.If they make a solid finished game. We shall see, but no, it's not a scam. Edited May 9, 2014 by blazed 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hefeweizen 254 Posted May 9, 2014 Scam!!!!1110101010 I didn't say scam.I said cash grab. Cash grab relates to greed.Not Fraud. 2 Years ago DayZ was created as a Mod for free. Today we have DayZ SA at $29.99 offering basically less than what the mod did. Currently DayZ is just a Cash grab, whether or not that changes in the future depends on what BIS do with it.If they make a solid finished game. We shall see, but no, it's not a scam. So you're saying.... they saw a market for a standalone game based off a mod of a property they already owned and they decided to make such a game because it was sure to sell well? Those bastards! What are they, some sort of business? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anothercynicalbrit 166 Posted May 9, 2014 This is dayz current state. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtvoFXxD0bs Janky, arcade mess.This. The game is a game based solely on griefing other players at the moment, there is no survival aspect to the game AT ALL. Now even for an alpha it is hard to comprehend how a game that is supposed to be a survival game has turned into a pathetic mess involving stupid disparities between weapons, unrealistic weaponry (machete and axe) and tons and tons of glitchers. So many people glitching in the neaf i can not remember the last time i went down the airfield without seeing one person inside a glitch who can pop out of an invisible wall and shoot you, in the air control tower glitch they don't even need to pop out, they can shoot through the walls. I understand it is alpha but i do not understand why this game has turned into this. I was saying to my team earlier this game is a laugh for us, we have fun killing others and that is great but it is not what this game was meant to be, it was meant to be a very hard, unfunny and unforgiving game that was extremely tense, a little scary and had decent realism, sadly at this stage of the game it is anything but, that's not to say it wont improve just that it has a long way to go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dagwood 680 Posted May 9, 2014 If everyone was constantly dying from beefy zombies, starvation, dehydration AND other players, the development process would be slowed down even further than it already is because nobody would be TESTING THE PRODUCT THAT IS IN ALPHA STAGE OF PRODUCTION.There is your first grader one sentence response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazed 71 Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) So you're saying.... they saw a market for a standalone game based off a mod of a property they already owned and they decided to make such a game because it was sure to sell well? Those bastards! What are they, some sort of business? EXACTLY! Thats what happen they saw their famous Mod (which was free) can rake in the $$$. Heres a story, Valve Bought Counter strike from modders long ago, they didnt make a paid SA for it, they kept it free, Then came Half-life 2 and Counter:Strike Source, again the mod was free, CS: GO is the first one to come out as a SA and I think it's because CS: source is outdated and there is no Half-Life 3. CS:Go was always cheap $15, Conclusion: fair, not a cash grab. Cash Grab = Trying to make money with little effort, such as poor sequels to great games/movies in an attempt to cash in on the actual title as opposed to the quality of the work. Like those games that come out at the same time a movie, for example The amazing spiderman 2 currently. The game is poor, but it will still sell due the the combination of the Movie in theatres now. Kids will want it, parents will buy it, etc. (hence why it's all kiddie games) Why I am leaning on the cash grab idea: They basically took the Arma III engine, which they already had.They took the Arma II elements which they already had.They took the DayZ mod elements which they already had.They mashed it all like this and sprinkled some updates since Dec 2013.I've seen Rockets road map to the end of 2014 at which point they hoping this game will be live.The road map is not very impressive, I won't outline all the things that were mentioned but there is no big game changer in there, what you see now is what you're going to basically get with some extra items thrown in such as vehicles, loot and animals for cooking, few other things go check it out yourself.FACT: people are still going to PVP, I mean seriously you think they going to all hold hands together and go kill zombies in an engine that cannot support a lot of AI characters?Forever dedicated PVP zones. That is DayZ.They could already make this game a 10 times more fun if they just removed dedicated Weapon spawns (airfields, military bases, tents), Why not just give every house a very low % of spawning a weapon so that every house... every location... is worth checking, and looting and exploring? Edited May 9, 2014 by blazed 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites