Dayz players evolving together with the game

[ld-airgrafix 403]

Not sure if you guys have noticed but "KOS" threads are rare in these forums of lately.

Also after being killed by a single hit from a zombie, and cursing, I spawned between solichniyi and elektro. I choose a heavily populated server, I was 40th player. In Kamyshovo, I came across a heavily armed player, and I thought "oh crap, here we go". He didn't kill me, he opened a can of food for me. As we were chatting, another player joined us. All of a sudden a 4th player enters a scene, a fresh spawn like me and the 3rd guy. He immediately started punching the armed player. Well he was easily killed by all 3 of us, I wasn't going to let this brat kill the man who fed me. I decided to move to elektro. There it was a ghost town, buildings unlooted, barely any zombies. Found a sks, box of bullets and heaps of food. I spotted another player being chased by 2 zombies. The poor guy didn't realise melee weapons are useless at the moment, I ran over there we both shot the zombies, had a brief conversation and went our separate ways. So that's 3 friendly out 4 players on Coast on a full server. What the hell is going on? Are players becoming friendlier and moving inland?

Edited April 29, 2014 by ld-airgrafix

[Dchil 829]

People are learning two things. Kos ain't going to change or Anti-KOS threads get the OP yelled at.

 

 

As for teamwork. People are different every day. Just because they helped me before doesn't mean i'm going to put away my Magnum without a good reason.

[MetapoliC 263]

Especially on the experimental servers, many are friendly indeed. Melee weapons are not useless mate, it takes only two to three hits in the head to kill a zomb, if you hit in the head from behind - a zomb will die right away. 

[xalienax 621]

Ive also seen more of the ranty KoS thready getting closed. perhaps that has something to do with it?

 

Im a PvPer. I always will be. Not the least bit ashamed of that. Im all for cooperative play- I host a teamspeak for that. If you not in it, I hope you see me before i see you. Especially once i get my beloved AKM back.

[hiniberus 122]

Well, the thing is that people can have about 9 friendly encounters but after 1 person kills them for whatever reason, they'll make the post about it. People've come to accept it'll always happen, while I can't still understand the point of KoS I've asked about and got a few answers and regardless, it's just about confirmed that gun or not gun, some people will kill you because they have a gun and bullets and they'll find more bullets. 

 

So again, while I personally, can't quite come to understand it, I do accept that some people just want to do that so I'm okay with it I guess. Also, I primarily don't go for full millitary gear (+30 out of 50 voters would KoS a full millitary gear dude, I found it, against 11 or so who would KoS a lightly geared player) so that also helps out without getting attached to my stuff. I get a bit miffed because I'd have liked the style of my dude but eh, can always get it eventually.

[blacklabel79 949]

Maybe today i give you some Rice and maybe tomorow i blast your head off without you knowing what happend. Depends on the mood really. Tho, hardcore Servers seem a bit more "friendly".

Edited April 29, 2014 by {Core}BlackLabel

[ld-airgrafix 403]

Ive also seen more of the ranty KoS thready getting closed. perhaps that has something to do with it?

 

Im a PvPer. I always will be. Not the least bit ashamed of that. Im all for cooperative play- I host a teamspeak for that. If you not in it, I hope you see me before i see you. Especially once i get my beloved AKM back.

We need players like you, I don't want complete friendly server, but I don't want idiots like the 4th player who attacks a heavily armed player just because he can't be f**ked to play this game for what it is. He could have gotten a can of beans and lived a bit longer.

[soulfirez 901]

Friendly 1 minute deadly the next id say you got lucky and being a freshspawn probably helped ( its only true KoS douches that shoot unarmed or poorly armed guys well unless they trying the mike tyson.

 

It just seems like luck almost like finding loot  1 day ill run into 3 or 4 nice players through a couple hours next day when i anounce myself i get shot at run from etc etc( i stalk and say hi from behind in hardcore ,so i am sort of in control lol).

[xalienax 621]

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Well, the thing is that people can have about 9 friendly encounters but after 1 person kills them for whatever reason, they'll make the post about it. People've come to accept it'll always happen, while I can't still understand the point of KoS I've asked about and got a few answers and regardless, it's just about confirmed that gun or not gun, some people will kill you because they have a gun and bullets and they'll find more bullets. 

 

So again, while I personally, can't quite come to understand it, I do accept that some people just want to do that so I'm okay with it I guess. Also, I primarily don't go for full millitary gear (+30 out of 50 voters would KoS a full millitary gear dude, I found it, against 11 or so who would KoS a lightly geared player) so that also helps out without getting attached to my stuff. I get a bit miffed because I'd have liked the style of my dude but eh, can always get it eventually.

think that ratio is a bit off unless thats based on expiremental or something? in SA ive had head blow'd off way more then firendly encounters. holds true in the mod too. on average maybe 1 in 10 guys actually dont try to kill you imediately. thats been my experience. the first clan i was in were playing "hero". i grew sick of spending 45 minutes to heal a guy who shoot my face off for no reason. Been full time PvPer ever since. if its not in TS with me, it needd a bullet. no exceptions granted.

 

We need players like you, I don't want complete friendly server, but I don't want idiots like the 4th player who attacks a heavily armed player just because he can't be f**ked to play this game for what it is. He could have gotten a can of beans and lived a bit longer.

yeah, it gets pretty silly at times. I dont go out of my way to chase fresh spawns on the coast who have nothing, to take a swing with my fists at a guy wielding a mosin. its just stupid. That said if im geared and see you, you get a mosing round to the head if i think i can drop you. location/gear/cloting irrelevant. thats how we play. If you have really nice kit i may stalk you for a while so i can engage in a more convient location away from zombies allowing for easier looting.

[hiniberus 122]

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think that ratio is a bit off unless thats based on expiremental or something? in SA ive had head blow'd off way more then firendly encounters. holds true in the mod too. on average maybe 1 in 10 guys actually dont try to kill you imediately. thats been my experience. the first clan i was in were playing "hero". i grew sick of spending 45 minutes to heal a guy who shoot my face off for no reason. Been full time PvPer ever since. if its not in TS with me, it needd a bullet. no exceptions granted.

 

Ey there buddy, 

 

Thanks for taking your time to take up my post to your reply, 9 was just a number I came up with to show that even if they met that many friendly people, then got shot, they'd put up a KOS topic. Personally, I keep my gun on my back as a sign of being 'friendly' (I try avoiding the use of that word as it triggers a knee-jerk reaction from some, I've found) though normally with a wall or something between me and them. Typically works out fine, though when I see them coming a bit close or look like they want to flank me, that's when I take out my gun. Especially with no response given when I say, "Ey there buddy, I don't want any trouble but if you need something, lemme know. Just put your gun away though, puts me on edge." if they say nothing or keep their gun out, I go to hostile mode.

[GenericSurvivor 17]

I think it's because when you KOS...you don't gain anything but zombie agro, people noticing you're there and wasted ammo. 

[xalienax 621]

Ey there buddy, 

 

Thanks for taking your time to take up my post to your reply, 9 was just a number I came up with to show that even if they met that many friendly people, then got shot, they'd put up a KOS topic. Personally, I keep my gun on my back as a sign of being 'friendly' (I try avoiding the use of that word as it triggers a knee-jerk reaction from some, I've found) though normally with a wall or something between me and them. Typically works out fine, though when I see them coming a bit close or look like they want to flank me, that's when I take out my gun. Especially with no response given when I say, "Ey there buddy, I don't want any trouble but if you need something, lemme know. Just put your gun away though, puts me on edge." if they say nothing or keep their gun out, I go to hostile mode.

 

Yeah my first clan did that when doing the hero thing, normally the guy giving the blood bag or morphine would just get lit up afrer poriving the required assistance. I suppose bitter experiences have turned me inot a bitter player. lol.

I think it's because when you KOS...you don't gain anything but zombie agro, people noticing you're there and wasted ammo. 

Another common misconception in the forums for some time now is that everyone who kills players or carrys PvP gear must be a costal deathmatcher. I am a full-time PVP player in dayZ. soon as i have a viable wepon i stalk people and actively seek PVP. with that said just going full-retard in cherno and aggroing 50 glitching super-zed to kill a gear-less fresh spawn is plain stupid. Real PvPers and bandits know to pick and choose fights/victims in areas where they can engage with optimal effect on target for minimal risk to them selves.

[cywehner1234 582]

Yeah my first clan did that when doing the hero thing, normally the guy giving the blood bag or morphine would just get lit up afrer poriving the required assistance. I suppose bitter experiences have turned me inot a bitter player. lol.

Another common misconception in the forums for some time now is that everyone who kills players or carrys PvP gear must be a costal deathmatcher. I am a full-time PVP player in dayZ. soon as i have a viable wepon i stalk people and actively seek PVP. with that said just going full-retard in cherno and aggroing 50 glitching super-zed to kill a gear-less fresh spawn is plain stupid. Real PvPers and bandits know to pick and choose fights/victims in areas where they can engage with optimal effect on target for minimal risk to them selves.

You actively look for PvP because gun spawns are outrageous right now. Could be why ^_^ This is nothing but a cod deathmatch to you I guess.

[xalienax 621]

You actively look for PvP because gun spawns are outrageous right now. Could be why ^_^ This is nothing but a cod deathmatch to you I guess.

quite the opposite. I like the challenge of having to work with what i come by.  its something you wont get in some random deathmatch FPS. There will always be pvp in a game like this and there should be. There is a Huge segement of the player base that thrive on it. Its not just "shoot everything that moves till it goes click". even if guns are readily available, unless you go to airfield or something far away and fill your inventory with ammo odds are your working with what ever you found first and the few clips at best you have.

 

When considering a victim i have to consider things like-

 

Are they likely to have friends here?

Other players nearby?

Large city will probably get me a ton of glitchy super zombies that hit thru walls and what not if i fire a loud weapon.

Is this target even worth stalking? if yes i may follow for a while at distance to try and get them between towns. if its some fresh spawn with a basic mele weapon its not worth putting myself at risk.

 

Enjoying PvP does not make you a Cod player or deathmatcher. i still have to deal with all the same glitches, survival aspects, zombies, etc that everyone else does. I dont want those things to go away, I like the unique challenge of fighting in an environment where the guy in my sights is only one of any number of threats to my character's existance.

[agentneo 337]

Melee is skill based now. i take down zombies in a single strike to the head then double tap them to finish them off. Aim about a metre above their head and to the right. Feels good when you take like 3 of them in a row with a single whack.

[xalienax 621]

Melee is skill based now. i take down zombies in a single strike to the head then double tap them to finish them off. Aim about a metre above their head and to the right. Feels good when you take like 3 of them in a row with a single whack.

yes but as a hunter of Players, stalking someone who has only a crowbar and starting gear isnt worth it when i have a mosin with pristine LRS now is it? not even from that player but from the zed aggro and un wanted atention that would bring. However some military kitted bada** would be worth following till hese between cities and whak'n in hopes of mosin ammo :)

[Phoenix777 43]

Well the lack of KoS topics could have something to do with the pinned topic on the subject... Though I imagine the moderators still have to merge a lot of topics into it.

[brumey 116]

Especially on the experimental servers, many are friendly indeed.

 

true dat

[Gekkonidae 270]

There are a lot of friendly people on the Exp. servers. Mainly, because most people are there to not only play, but to test/check out the new things. If they wanted an everyday deathmatch, they could just join a normal server. 

 

I have noticed that there are a lot more friendly people even on the normal servers lately though. KoSing has its fun, but I got pretty bored of it after a month or 2. I imagine I will do more of it later when persistent objects come into play (hopefully) at the end of May. Then, I think there will be more reason to become organized, resulting in more threats out there. Right now I just can't personally get behind a solid reason to murder people. I always find it more fun to play with complete strangers anyway. It's interesting at least.

[TEST_SUBJECT_83 465]

KOS threads down, Rant threads need to go next.

[Sistinas1973 50]

Friendlies? Ha! Here's a little diddy about friendlies...

 

...so me and a buddy were looking in Electro for some freshies (to help, not kos) and we come upon one getting chased by a zombie in Kamyshovo. My buddy usually approaches while I stand guard. He killed the zed for him and offered him a .357. He placed some ammo in a nearby house and told him once we leave he can go get it. After talking with him for a few minutes, we were satisfied with our friendly encounter and moved on. Not that it matters, well, maybe it does for the next part of the story, but he had to be about 12-15 yrs old judging by the sound of his voice and how he spoke on mic. 

 

Anyway, so about 15 minutes pass and as we continued our jaunt up the cost, we saw two freshies engaged in what looked like a hold up situation. We hung back off the tree line and observed them for a bit. After a few minutes my buddy says, "hey, that looks like the guy we just helped." We decide to approach, and sure as shit, it's the freshie with the .357 we gave. He was holding up the other frieshie. After confronting him he starts stuttering and saying how he just wanted to make sure this guy wasn't going to hurt him, blah, blah, blah. The other guy said he was trying to get him to take off his pants. As we were about to make them fight it out and give the .357 to the winner, the damn server restarts. The kid didn't log back into the same server when we came back in. 

 

My point here is, even if you think you are helping someone, you never know to what end. After this experience, I think I will just stick to giving freshies food, drink, cloths, and bandages. No more weapons. the kid was lucky the server restarted. I was a bit disgusted that I helped him get to a point where he could do that to another player. I was going to kill him if he logged back on. 

[xalienax 621]

Thats when they both get a mosin to the face.

 

Mosin is god. Mosin will pass judgement on your actions. Mosin will decide who lives and who dies. xD

[nimmerzz 17]

KOS is the only reason my heart starts pumping in this game. I don't KOS. I normally try to avoid anyone who looks armed. But if I get trapped it's ON! Without KOS this game wouldnt be what it is. Im not saying i want everyone to play that way. But the fact that you just dont know someones intentions is what makes DayZ great. Ive met up with players who after an hour try to kill me because I found a gu they wanted. Ive also had to kill someone I met because I was about to die and we only had one can of food between us. I wasn't proud of what I did, but I needed to survive. 

[hiniberus 122]

Yeah my first clan did that when doing the hero thing, normally the guy giving the blood bag or morphine would just get lit up afrer poriving the required assistance. I suppose bitter experiences have turned me inot a bitter player. lol.

 

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Eh, just be more careful I'd suggest. I don't blame you though, was in Elektro, found a bambi and a full retard millgear dude. Told them I'd help them out if the bambi needed anything, he took out a pitchfork and tried to kill me. Only having a mosin and a revolver, I was about to leave and he tried to kill me. Hit him a few times and ran off while his M4 friend tries to gun me down. Ruined my beautiful revolver a few days back. So yeah, it was a pity but eh. 

[L00Tcypher 1]

Thats when they both get a mosin to the face.

 

Mosin is god. Mosin will pass judgement on your actions. Mosin will decide who lives and who dies. xD

i will just go ingame to spread word of our new lord and saviour. The great MOSIN!!!