hotcakes 348 Posted April 24, 2014 Holy shit, I tested this to see for myself. I got a hop timer of 568 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irish. 4886 Posted April 24, 2014 Holy shit, I tested this to see for myself. I got a hop timer of 568 seconds.Which it turns out is just enough time to prepare a meal before you start gaming. I made mac and cheese.. what did you make? ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HIHBGaming 14 Posted April 24, 2014 In most games Queue times are frustrating and lead to bad reviews, in the dayz the general community ask for "moar queue times"! In most games perma death is a bad idea and frustrating, yet the people of dayZ love it (so do I, not because of the punishment but because of how important gun fights become, the tension). In most games running for hours and wasting time doing boring things is uninspired and time wasting without the fun part, hence why nearly every MMO out there has Mounts to improve traveling experience, Yet in DayZ community loves to run for hours viewing the same landscape over and over again. (funny how all bambi's I meet ingame are actually pissed off about the running, hypocripsy anyone, it's all good when you're killing others tho right?) DayZ community = Take everything from Standard gaming that's proven to work: out, and go in the opposite direction by adding all the things that gaming has involved from and surpassed over the last three decades. Then you have a product like DayZ. DayZ is suppose to be about Immersion, Survival, Player Interaction, Fighting off Zombies, there are so many thing BIS wants to add into the game that will leave you trying to survive rather than the plain old Player vs Player. You players who are so butthurt about Hoppers taking easy loot and not securing a kill, why don't you play a game like CS:GS, or COD, wait there isn't enough death punishment and greifing in those right? Keep creating a game that appeals to only a small amount of gamers and alienate the rest of the potential gamers. Then cry when you don't have enough of a fanbase, developers stop support and hackers run rampart. Sorry but you clearly did not do your homework before buying this game did you? Rather than people trying to change what the core of DayZ is(which isn't going to happen) go play those games you mentioned. DayZ isn't and will never be a game of easy mode and convenience(well maybe until modding but that's a whole other kettle of fish), people really need to grasp that concept. A lot of people that play do know and understand what DayZ is, you may call us "fanboys" but at least we comprehend why we bought the game in the first place. As for the timer... There are other reasons behind the timer other than the obvious server hopping/ghosting and that has been stated by Rocket and posted in this thread.Again, I've never had an issue with whatever timer has been put out there and I got over 200+ hrs playing SA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotcakes 348 Posted April 24, 2014 Which it turns out is just enough time to prepare a meal before you start gaming. I made mac and cheese.. what did you make? ;) I returned to the same server I was playing on because like I said, there's only a 30s/60s timer for rejoining a server you were playing on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazed 71 Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Sorry but you clearly did not do your homework before buying this game did you? Rather than people trying to change what the core of DayZ is(which isn't going to happen) go play those games you mentioned. DayZ isn't and will never be a game of easy mode and convenience(well maybe until modding but that's a whole other kettle of fish), people really need to grasp that concept. A lot of people that play do know and understand what DayZ is, you may call us "fanboys" but at least we comprehend why we bought the game in the first place. As for the timer... There are other reasons behind the timer other than the obvious server hopping/ghosting and that has been stated by Rocket and posted in this thread.Again, I've never had an issue with whatever timer has been put out there and I got over 200+ hrs playing SA. I'll repeat this: DayZ is suppose to be about Immersion, Survival, Player Interaction, Fighting off Zombies, there are so many thing BIS wants to add into the game that will leave you trying to survive rather than the plain old Player vs Player. Go ask Rocket what he thinks about this statement, he has mentioned on a few occasions that players have nothing to do except Player Vs Player each other. So he's focusing on survival aspects, I'm guessing what he means by this is that the game didn't work quite as intended (People just PVPing). And Yes I know why the timer is there for techical reason, good, thats its mainly for technical reason's and not because of the ****crap that players like you are moaning about. R.Neville you keep replying to my posts which aren't even directed at you, devil's advocate and trolling much? Edited April 24, 2014 by blazed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazed 71 Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Quick and easy fix to loot whoring hoppers = Make Millitary bases loot spawns equal to other buildings, remove the fact that there are some locations that provide shit load of ammunition and guns and suddenly you know what, people won't have to the urge to spawn in Airfields and campers won't camp them all night. (They already stated that once bows and crafting is properly implemented they will make guns and ammunition a lot rarer to balance out the playing field). Quick and Easy way to fix combat loggers = Require a player to sit down (unique pose) and begin a countdown from 60 seconds when you hit 0 you logout and your character instantly disapears, if you suddenly see another player you could hit ESC, stop the countdown, get up and bring out your gun again. Adding 10 minutes of queues outside of technical problems (as stated by the developers) is the wrong way to combat loggers. Edited April 24, 2014 by blazed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooligan (DayZ) 38 Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Had to acknowledge a warning in order to post this and I'll probably get another for this post.Op is an idiot bitch.Posted from my phone while taking a shit. Edited April 24, 2014 by Max Planck Cut it out, you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreypa 98 Posted April 24, 2014 > Join 17 Pop Server > Admin instantly kicks> 313s Wait timer> Wait , get into 22 pop server> Friend unable to connect (official server btw)> Logout , join his server> 588s Wait timer> zzzzzzzzzzzz> Wait, get into this server> Laggier than all hell> GG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooligan (DayZ) 38 Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) GG it's alpha you fuckin crying cunts. Go play bf5 if you dont have time. Edited April 24, 2014 by orlok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted April 24, 2014 I'd rather just publically execute server hoppers/combat loggers than force them to wait miniscule time periods, but I'm not Mao Zedong nor another dictator so that cannot happen. Deal with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazed 71 Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Had to acknowledge a warning in order to post this and I'll probably get another for this post.Op is an idiot bitch.Posted from my phone while taking a shit. GG it's alpha you fuckin crying cunts. Go play bf5 if you dont have time.Anger Management! Edited April 24, 2014 by orlok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16185 Posted April 24, 2014 GG it's alpha you fuckin crying cunts. Go play bf5 if you dont have time.Hello there Youve been warned about your attitude before, this is your final warning. Do NOT insult fellow forum members. Rgds LoK 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooligan (DayZ) 38 Posted April 24, 2014 But Op can insult the dev team without warning? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stikko 0 Posted April 24, 2014 The timer made me search Google, go here, register and post this. Basically, I think up to 600 seconds is pointless in fighting server hopping, because waiting and hopping is still the easiest way to loot. Those whimps will wait for half an hour if necessary. It doesn't changed a single thing, just an annoyance for players who get kicked from a server, suffer from connection losses and similar. Making a group of players wait 10 minutes just because one guy dropped sucks big time. Some timer to prevent ghosting is good and necessary, but 5 minutes were already more than necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ramblin Hans 118 Posted April 24, 2014 A. If you're complaining it fixes ghosting (maybe you fucking camp too much? think about that one :P) You're right, sitting in a position in a game like this is retarded. I should run out in the street and chase down the guys firing at me! Let me quick get my P90, choose my marathon / lightweight kit, and get my C4 ready. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted April 24, 2014 But Op can insult the dev team without warning? OP never called the developers fucking crying cunts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HIHBGaming 14 Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) I'll repeat this: DayZ is suppose to be about Immersion, Survival, Player Interaction, Fighting off Zombies, there are so many thing BIS wants to add into the game that will leave you trying to survive rather than the plain old Player vs Player. Go ask Rocket what he thinks about this statement, he has mentioned on a few occasions that players have nothing to do except Player Vs Player each other. So he's focusing on survival aspects, I'm guessing what he means by this is that the game didn't work quite as intended (People just PVPing). And Yes I know why the timer is there for techical reason, good, thats its mainly for technical reason's and not because of the ****crap that players like you are moaning about. R.Neville you keep replying to my posts which aren't even directed at you, devil's advocate and trolling much? I reply and directly quote people that I feel like responding to, kinda the whole point of forums really. If I want to talk generally in the thread I do. Trolling is not a game I play and you can think what you will but when someone clearly hasn't a clue to what they're talking about it deserves a response most of the time. Just for the record when you logout you do sit down and remain in game for 30 seconds, this is to discourage combat logging. The 500sec timer in question is to alleviate server hopping/ghosting among other technical issues. Edited April 24, 2014 by R.Neville Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazed 71 Posted April 24, 2014 Trolling is not a game I play and you can think what you will but when someone clearly hasn't a clue to what they're talking about it deserves a response most of the time.Oh that snobby behavior wow, I have no idea what I'm talking about do I? and replying to a guy who has no clue makes sense, one would just avoid contact if they felt something was hopeless. You sir are a Genius.Maybe you you should search the definition of trolling up, you are directly replying to my general posts in ways that are trying to spark an arguement. Just for the record when you logout you do sit down for 30 seconds and this is to discourage combat logging. The 500sec timer in question is to alleviate server hopping/ghosting among other technical issues. And here I thought you was actually reading my post seeing as you reply to them but you seem to be telling me information that I have already posted on this very thread, thank you for telling me about the despawn timer that I already knew about, however the one I was suggesting was different, didn't you notice? You don't play a game of trolling right, then how about you stop sir? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaeg 136 Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Stop server hopping. Problem solved. Edited April 24, 2014 by Shaeg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irish. 4886 Posted April 24, 2014 I returned to the same server I was playing on because like I said, there's only a 30s/60s timer for rejoining a server you were playing on.Please get on topic.. What did you make? Was it 1 minute rice then? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotcakes 348 Posted April 24, 2014 Please get on topic.. What did you make? Was it 1 minute rice then? I didn't even cook the rice, I ate the whole bag because that's what my character does in DayZ. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HIHBGaming 14 Posted April 25, 2014 Oh that snobby behavior wow, I have no idea what I'm talking about do I? and replying to a guy who has no clue makes sense, one would just avoid contact if they felt something was hopeless. You sir are a Genius.Maybe you you should search the definition of trolling up, you are directly replying to my general posts in ways that are trying to spark an arguement. And here I thought you was actually reading my post seeing as you reply to them but you seem to be telling me information that I have already posted on this very thread, thank you for telling me about the despawn timer that I already knew about, however the one I was suggesting was different, didn't you notice? You don't play a game of trolling right, then how about you stop sir? Hrmm so basically if someone responds to something you post that you don't want to be corrected on or they show a difference in opinion, they're trolling? I really don't think forums are for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_69 78 Posted April 25, 2014 Sorry folks, but this doesn't actually matter to loot hoppers. It is still way more efficient to loot hop in the NWAF. Ghosters... I can't comment as most battles are over too quickly. But server hoppers are severely punished by this. These are the people who are punished. People that are trying to join their friends, stop playing in the dark, kicked by admin, crash to desktop, server restart, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazed 71 Posted April 25, 2014 Hrmm so basically if someone responds to something you post that you don't want to be corrected on or they show a difference in opinion, they're trolling? I really don't think forums are for you. Except you haven't corrected me on anything, the way you construct your sentences perceives that your opinion is more worthy than my opinion, and apparently my opinions = me being clueless (so says you) I was just making general posts, with suggestions and ideas about the gameplay. You on the other hand, is picking bits of my posts and sparking an arguement with words such as, This game isn't for you, You shouldn't be on the forums, you have no idea what you're talking about. Who died and made you the King? I think you have a lack of intellectual understanding here buddy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HIHBGaming 14 Posted April 25, 2014 Except you haven't corrected me on anything, the way you construct your sentences perceives that your opinion is more worthy than my opinion, and apparently my opinions = me being clueless (so says you) I was just making general posts, with suggestions and ideas about the gameplay. You on the other hand, is picking bits of my posts and sparking an arguement with words such as, This game isn't for you, You shouldn't be on the forums, you have no idea what you're talking about. Who died and made you the King? I think you have a lack of intellectual understanding here buddy... No, you are a combat logger/server hopper trying to justify it anyway you can. Am I understanding that or are most of your other posts in this thread a figment of my imagination? This game is definitely not for you. Move along son... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites