Why I didn't appeal my temporary ban ( and more critique on info)

[RustyBlade 39]

You have been placed on moderator queue. This means that all content you submit will need to be approved by a moderator before it will be shown.<----- Really? just for "off topic and spam", fair enough. 

Hello all, I have returned. I am here to explain why i didn't appeal my ban, and also why my comments were so abrasive (NOT abusive).  
I was temp banned for off topic/spam. I disagree, but respect the decision so i patiently waited for the ban to be up. Now i am back, and here to voice my concerns yet again, in a more "tolerable manner" as to not give any moderator an excuse to silence me. Since this is the thread i started, all my posts will be on topic, not spam, with no swearing, and critical. You heard me, critical.

Before i start i thought i'd throw this quote, form the International Digital Times

"Sadly, no one has published a complete set of patch notes for DayZ Standalone experimental build 0.44.123800, leaving fans of the game with little option but to cobble together a patchwork change log based on early reports from other players and post-release tweets from Hall. On the plus side, members of reddit have proven quite adept at such tasks in the past, and a rough outline of the DayZ Standalone v0.44.123800 change log is already beginning to take form on the DayZ sub-reddit."
Go reddit, i guess.
 Is this really how you want to present your notes? "Cobbled together a patchwork changelog"? So myself, a number of forum participants, a moderator of this site( of which I'm sure his comment has surely been hidden), a professional journalist for a distinguished website, and an obviously one sided poll here on the forums, agree that the info is sparse, all over the place, and delivered by different people to different websites at different times, which is incredibly unnecessary. When you, the moderators, took notice, the overall message you conveyed was to leave this forum, and find it elsewhere. ( Even using a link from this forum to another website for info, is in fact, leaving here to go somewhere else.)
 

Rolling Update Rev - 0.42.116181

Posted 19 March 2014 - 05:47 AM

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Branch: Stable
 
Version: 0.43.116251 Hotfix specific changes

  
This is the problem. Right there. March 19th was when it says it was last updated, and the title is still for 0.42. You cant blame someone, who comes here for info, sees that and leaves, then gets unofficial info from cobbled together patch notes from players. Then has no real clue what the hell is ACTUALLY going on. The experimental server is running 0.44. Stables running 0.43. The title is STILL for 0.42, from March. I'm terribly sorry, but there's no excuse for that , at all. Its pretty bad when the "cobbled together patchnotes" are more up to date, and organised, than the official forums. That being said. I do NOT want a moderator, to tell me to use the Devtracker, or Reddit, or any other third party, then inadvertently pass the blame onto the user (in a nice way, i guess) for not looking for info in these other places. Believe it or not guys, people that didn't play the mod, bought this game. People unfamiliar with forums, patch notes, development, programming and everything else people make fun of us for not knowing, bought this game. i know a few people that got a PC just for the standalone, and guess what? They dont play it. They moved onto other games, because they had no idea what was going on, what was new, where to go, or anything else. They came here before I did, and then told me that it made no sense. Silly me, i defended this forum. I said, "its the OFFICIAL forums, thats where anyone would expect to go for info." Surprise! 

That is why i was so upset initially. Brand new PC gamers, are now turned away from Early Access games, and anything related to Dayz at all, and with brand new IP's with similar concepts coming, can you guys really afford to turn people away from here and say, "have you tried google? Here is a link for twitter, and reddit" Imagine there confusion. This is the place to go for info and discussion, and they are basically told to leave. 

Something is very, very wrong here guys, and i cant shake the feeling that your not acting as professional as you could regarding information availability. Rather than try and defend this,(which you have been doing acting like there's not a problem, despite overwhelming evidence) how about a simple " How can we make it easier?" How can we help you better understand where we are in development and what you should be testing?"  This is why i was so ragey on the comments. Because this literally hurts my head. I am an independent business owner, and an avid gamer, but I will have you know, i have no longer kept any Bohemia Interactive affiliated software or games within my establishment. I will for sure, stay away from any and all new games form either this company, or Deans new one. I am not trying to make a point, or tell anyone to rally against this with torch and pitch fork, but not only have you lost a customer, but you've lost my professional recommendation for an open world zombie survival game, when any customer asks me. You guys need to realize, your not the only one anymore.

Thanks for reading,  
                            Rusty.   

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

 

Ive approved your post for publishing.

 

Critique all you want, but see if you can hold your rage and sarcasm under control.

 

You didnt do all that well in your steam rebukes, but im more than happy to give you a chance to get your (imho somewhat flawed) opinion across.

 

Remember no one told YOU to leave, we just supplied you with where to get the info you sought.

 

We cannot spoon feed everything directly into your eyes.

 

We are not a mega corporation and dont have control over every aspect and flow of info. We do what we can though, so think before you type.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[real meatshield 424]

So... this rant is over a temp ban about a prior rant over what you deem to be a lack of appropriate information, over an alpha where the lead developer has come right out to say NOT to buy it at this point?

 

Maybe the spotty delivery of information is part and parcel to the plan?

 

The game is in alpha. Not even beta, but alpha. It is broken in more places than can be counted, yet you would have the devs take time to notate every little change they make in this broken alpha, to highlight something else that is (or probably soon will be) broken?
 

Sorry dude but I don't agree with your line of thinking. Maybe you ought to go play with those other new IPs before you start making empty threats about how you plan to refuse to sell BI products anymore, or those from whatever rocket decides to create in the future. Being butthurt over an alpha is not the way to conduct a successful business, nor the way to behave as a serious gamer (as you claim to be.)

[joe_mcentire 2074]

Because of clutter of information...I mean the info is there but not conveniently enough, that's why I don't recommend this game and any future games of this developer.

10/10 would fuck logic again. :/

Edit: I would even agree in some points however the main statement and the conclusion you draw seem to be a bit ridiculous

Edited April 21, 2014 by joe_mcentire

[Rick1633 136]

Oh crap.  Proof that this game is managed and developed so unprofessionally?     This thread will be locked up tighter than my ass in a prison shower.

[RustyBlade 39]

There are not empty threats at all, in fact, its already been done. Again you guys proved my point, i came back with constructive criticism and suggestions and i'm met with attitude and condescension. "We cannot spoon feed everything directly into your eyes."

Thanks again for the condescension, I really appreciate it. Good luck with your development and whatever testing you guys can manage. No one said your a megacorporation, but there are at least 3 other websites that are better organized with more info, perhaps link new players to them? "We are not a mega corporation and dont have control over every aspect and flow of info. We do what we can though, so think before you type."  

Perhaps you can just change the title form 0.42 from March, to 0.43, because no servers are running the version in the title. Sorry if this somehow upsets you guys, which it obviously does. 

[OrLoK 16185]

Oh crap.  Proof that this game is managed and developed so unprofessionally?     This thread will be locked up tighter than my ass in a prison shower.

Hello there

 

We'll only lock if it becomes full of fluff like your post.

 

If you want to contribute and, lets be honest, we know you're not a fan, but please attempt to try to add something other than spewing out brainwrongs.

 

Note that this thread was under moderation and I released it into the wild to let the debate commence. I could have simply left it hidden if we were so sneaky about things.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[Irish. 4886]

Its good to see that time heals all wounds  :|

[RustyBlade 39]

Because of clutter of information...I mean the info is there but not conveniently enough, that's why I don't recommend this game and any future games of this developer.

10/10 would fuck logic again. :/

Edit: I would even agree in some points however the main statement and the conclusion you draw seem to be a bit ridiculous

Not recommending the game is not from lack of info, but rather, treatment of newcomers to the community by moderators. You can say it nicely, but its still true.

[RustyBlade 39]

Also, why is the quote from the international digital times, blacked out, and the only way to read it is to highlight it?

[Electi 149]

Well, i can tell that's most of things you wrote here it's human factor, which one can be controlled only by that dude who took moderators etc on forum. If he did not spoke with them for like an hour, i think he does not know him + when you wanna get job - you are angel.
Anyway, that game and forum are full of rotting cabbages,if you know what i mean, most sad part that's there is no cooperation and any control about testing, nobody talk about where and when you can test things with developers or other ppl who are responsible.Nobody making some kind of events in test, forum must have sings about help in testing on every damn page, etc. I know that's those who purchased that game, at least 60% are glad to help and will cooperate, and that productive force are not been used even on 10% of it's full potential.

So, we have lazy humans here and "fat cats". I am sad because of that situation on game/forum and i can't see that's someone give a clue about it.

Thanks for reading, sorry for grammatics. Kyrie eleison.

[OrLoK 16185]

Not recommending the game is not from lack of info, but rather, treatment of newcomers to the community by moderators. You can say it nicely, but its still true.

Hello there

 

After your sweary rant and your Steam posts, you are lucky to be welcomed back. But we do like to give people second chances.

 

We treat folk like they treat us.

 

You dont have to blindly love the game or Dean etc etc, but you do have to be constructive and keep within our lax rules.

 

Its not alot to ask.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[Rick1633 136]

Hello there

 

We'll only lock if it becomes full of fluff like your post.

 

If you want to contribute and, lets be honest, we know you're not a fan, but please attempt to try to add something other than spewing out brainwrongs.

 

Note that this thread was under moderation and I released it into the wild to let the debate commence. I could have simply left it hidden if we were so sneaky about things.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

You still dont understand me.  I bought the game and have almost 200 hours in.  I am a huge fan.  It is because I love the concept so much that I express my concerns at its failures.  I want it to succeed but see real problems that no alpha with over 40 million in revenue should have.

[Irish. 4886]

You still dont understand me.  I bought the game and have almost 200 hours in.  I am a huge fan.  It is because I love the concept so much that I express my concerns at its failures.  I want it to succeed but see real problems that no alpha with over 40 million in revenue should have.

Post on Reddit..

 

Nobody visits this site that cares, and those that do will not be affected by your comments.

 

Honestly, take this to Reddit. That is where the devs post anyhow.

Edited April 21, 2014 by lrish

[Rick1633 136]

Thanks for the tip.  Good idea.

[OrLoK 16185]

Also, why is the quote from the international digital times, blacked out, and the only way to read it is to highlight it?

Hello there

 

Because its cut and pasted probably, you need to reformat it.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[boneboys 7988]

You are still going on about something that will not change.
The Devs have given their reasons, now just Dean with it.

There is a lot of info out there, people are playing the Experimental, new gear, new loot locations and certainly new glitches.
The fashion in which you hopped on to Steam to continue your pitiful rant was embarrassing to yourself, you achieved nothing apart from locked Topics.

Get off your high horse, that same old song is stuck, repetitive and boring.