I tried to be a nice guy...

[DirtyWings 51]

But it just did not work. 

 

Experimental server US-03.. Im at the NWAF, its night and pitch black.. Im waiting out the darkness and eating some food. I see a spotlight of someone working the tents so I stumble my way there to say hi. So I wait a moment, I can see the guy knows what he is doing and is armed. But I do my usual and say, "Well hello there!" over my mic.. he stops for a second. Then moves on. So I type in sidechat.. "Boo!" Nothing. Not a single fuck given. Im like 20 feet away. About 1 tent at the most. I talk over mic again. He works some tents, still looting. So I move towards a tent he is bound to loot soon. Eventually he does.. as he enters the tent he looks right at me, but his spotlight spins quickly away and I doubt he sees me even though Im about 10 feet in front of him. He is focused on loot and nothing else. 

 

So I lock and load. Double tap to the head. Profit sawed-off and other odds and ends. 

 

Thank you "NotAGirl". Im sorry you were so focused that you did not hear me, see me, nor did you notice sidechat text that stayed up for 20 seconds on your screen. I would have probably just chatted with you had you responded in any way. But in DayZ my motto is: Dead Men Don't Talk. ;)

Maybe he did not speak English... That's just a dick move.

[Space Milk 195]

No, no, no and no, I don't agree. He spotted someone and tried to communicate with that person to make him aware of his presence. The person did not respond, like at all. Not even acknowledge the existance of OP. What would you do if you know there's some guy with a weapon running around in pitch black that you know is not willing to communicate? You get rid of him, before he gets rid of you. Simple as that. How people call this banditry is beyond me. Imho, there is no such thing as: "I'll just leave this guy wandering around on the airfield whilst im still here as well, praying to god he won't kill me". Like, you either come to terms with eachother or one has to die. If people keep taking risks like that in a game like DayZ, you WILL get fucked over. In the end, in my opinion your life is more important than being 'good', whatever that may be.

As OP said, he made a subtle but obvious acknowledgment.

Obviously I woukd get rid of him, but you aren't seeing the point.

It is bandity, I never said that was bad, but I never said that was good.

OP says that what he did was "nice." It was not nice, it is simple banditry, murder, robbing of the corpse. Simple as that. The other guy, made a choice to not do anything to you. Unwise or not, he is the person here who did the nice thing. Any other person would have just killed the OP and he would not post this. He let him live willingly. OP himself made a very unwise choice by doing that, in the dark, with tensions high, in a military area, pvp zone, and he just comes behind and says hi. If OP died, he deserved it, but he didn't, so he murdered and robbed him, which is banditry. There were three other choices he could have made, either run the hell out, never make contact, or KOS. Lastly, what I have a problem with, is that OP says that this is a nice action.

If people took risks like that, yeah, they are dead. The OP took a risk, one that like I said many times, would have resulted in his brains being blown all over the place.

I am not against pvp, and I play as a bandit. I kill people for their stuff and snipe people from the buildings by balota. I handcuff people in the city with my group and rob them. I have gone into a fight club with my group and executed them, firing squad style. If there was humanity in the game, I would be in the far negatives, as I have been in the mod. I am not a "anti pvp goodie goodie person." OP is a bandit, but says he is nice, made a unwise choice, the end.

Edited April 18, 2014 by Space Milk

[qww 287]

i don't agree that you have to take the risk of shooting anyone you see to make the game worth playing.

[Salva (DayZ) 52]

I see where you're coming from Space Milk, I guess I could agree with you on the fact that this action as a whole wasn't OP 'being nice'. Perhaps normally OP would have killed a person on sight but just this once he tried to be 'nice' in that he engaged in a conversation with the person instead of killing him on sight. Maybe that is what he meant? It wasn't very nice of him to kill the person though as you explained.

Edited April 19, 2014 by Salva

[Facetentacles 92]

Maybe he didn't speak English, maybe he didn't want to be bothered, maybe he didn't pay attention to side chat, maybe he couldn't hear you talking in direct.... Hell, maybe your mic was muted without you realizing.

Either way, if you're not on a server completely by yourself and you're trying to loot an airfield and paying 0 attention, you're going to get shot.

If Irish hadn't done it, someone else would have and most likely wouldn't have even attempted to communicate. I fail to see the problem here.

[Irish. 4886]

but you aren't seeing the point.

OP is a bandit, but says he is nice, made a unwise choice, the end.

 

its funny how you point out someone else missing the point..  :facepalm:

 

I made a nice choice by not shooting the player on sight. I spoke to him, foolish as you call it though you fail to recognize the simple and glaring fact that it was night and I had the upper hand in every way shape and form, because it was an experimental server and I wanted to talk to him to perhaps make a friend or in the least learn where he had been so I did not retrace his steps in looting. It was my intention to interact with him, not shoot him. That was not a foolish choice on my part because I am quite experienced with this game, gaming in general and the tactics of combat from my real life training and I know how to protect myself in risky situations. I was in good cover and any advances on my position would have been met with hostile action. When I allowed him to "see me" by being out in his open view that was my last straw, to give him a chance to do something as at the point it had been a full 10 minutes of my trying to communicate and regardless if he spoke english or not he had to of known that someone was trying to talk to him, and if he was so oblivious as to not take notice after 10 minutes in a high PVP area with his headlamp on at night... well then I can only hope he learned his lesson. 

 

I really don't get the need for negative judgement from others based on my actions? Its not like I killed a bambi. This was at the infamous NWAF. It would have been wrong for me to just let him go after all of that, because then he leaves the area thinking its safe to loot on a full server and him doing so and surviving is a typical thing to expect in DayZ. I mean this guy had all the tools a bandit uses for killing. He was not taking the route of survivalist here. He was gearing up and looting with the focus of weapons, that much was clear. I feel no ill in what I did, and really do not see how others would unless its their own pent up aggression towards their own in game losses.

 

This game needs a high level of fear otherwise it is just an easy survival sim and people will grow bored of it. I hope to do my small part in helping this game be what it always has been since the day I started playing it back in December of 2012  and ever since the mod dropped way back in April of the same year: Great.

[Salva (DayZ) 52]

Maybe he didn't speak English, maybe he didn't want to be bothered, maybe he didn't pay attention to side chat, maybe he couldn't hear you talking in direct.... Hell, maybe your mic was muted without you realizing.

Either way, if you're not on a server completely by yourself and you're trying to loot an airfield and paying 0 attention, you're going to get shot.

If Irish hadn't done it, someone else would have and most likely wouldn't have even attempted to communicate. I fail to see the problem here.

I don't think there is a problem. It's pretty cool to see the discussion that spawns off that short story from OP. Seems like some people don't hesitate to call it an act of blatant banditry, which I find interesting and don't necessarily agree with. There's doing what one has to do in the heat of the moment, which can involve killing and doing not so nice things to others. And then there is banditry. Two different things imho. 

[theevancat 94]

Well, I´ve met that nice slowakian dude daytime @NWAF.

 

Both of us been armed but however we didn´t start shooting each other but start talking.

Whilst looting the tents together we got shot by another dude/dudette and being unable to spot the aggressor we decided to retreat in the depots.

Scouting the tents, the rest of the airfield without spotting anyone we went on direction south barrack/jail and lost each other (LOL).

 

OT: People not responding acting suspicious and thus must be aware to get attacked.

I've met nice people at NWAF as well. I shot a guy because I was jumpy and he spooked me but after I had him disarmed I fixed his broken leg and gave him some stuff and told him that he could leave with his life. Meanwhile I apologized for some reason. Probably because I knew that he was geared up and it sucks to die like that. I said that he could come back in five minutes to collect his guns (I made sure all of them were on the ground or else I'd finish the job I butchered) and I ran out of there. Zigzagged pretty much into the northern wilderness and I never saw him again.

So I guess I was the nice guy there. So NWAF doesn't always have to end with death.

[Irish. 4886]

I've met nice people at NWAF as well. I shot a guy because I was jumpy and he spooked me but after I had him disarmed I fixed his broken leg and gave him some stuff and told him that he could leave with his life. Meanwhile I apologized for some reason. Probably because I knew that he was geared up and it sucks to die like that. I said that he could come back in five minutes to collect his guns (I made sure all of them were on the ground or else I'd finish the job I butchered) and I ran out of there. Zigzagged pretty much into the northern wilderness and I never saw him again.

So I guess I was the nice guy there. So NWAF doesn't always have to end with death.

See, that was perfect and what I would have preferred to have happened in the least: communication.

 

If you play DayZ and cant even get that part right, its not going to end well for you. 

Edited April 19, 2014 by lrish

[theevancat 94]

See, that was perfect and what I would have preferred to have happened in the least: communication.

 

If you play DayZ and cant even get that part right, its not going to end well for you.

I guess I was also glad that I got him first and non-lethally at that. Interaction beats straight up KoS.

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[NagsterTheGangster 388]

I doubt he didn't see you. Thats all im saying..

 

Think about it.

[Irish. 4886]

I doubt he didn't see you. Thats all im saying..

 

Think about it.

Im positive he didnt in hindsight. The times he seemed to pause was only when he was looking at loot on the ground. He never once noticed I was there.. how could he have and not done a single thing, completely ignoring me? Thats just implausible. But what is plausible is he was focused and felt safe, so he never even noticed. I mean, think about it.. would you or anyone you know ignore someone talking to them in the dark at the NWAF on a full server? Honestly.. anyone? Everyone Ive met would run, or turn off the light, or look for the person talking, or start shooting, or talk back, type back..something. Not, ignore and just loot on like nothing was to be worried about. Thats tantamount to full on ignoring a zed attacking you. 

[real meatshield 424]

Jake had a carebear moment. Come on guys, give him a break. He had his moment, it passed, then he did the right thing and shot the fucking idiot.

 

Glad to hear you came back to the dark side with no ill effects, brother. Semper Fi.

[Irish. 4886]

Jake had a carebear moment. Come on guys, give him a break. He had his moment, it passed, then he did the right thing and shot the fucking idiot.

 

Glad to hear you came back to the dark side with no ill effects, brother. Semper Fi.

RAH. Semper Fi Brother

[weedmasta 784]

But it just did not work. 

 

Experimental server US-03.. Im at the NWAF, its night and pitch black.. Im waiting out the darkness and eating some food. I see a spotlight of someone working the tents so I stumble my way there to say hi. So I wait a moment, I can see the guy knows what he is doing and is armed. But I do my usual and say, "Well hello there!" over my mic.. he stops for a second. Then moves on. So I type in sidechat.. "Boo!" Nothing. Not a single fuck given. Im like 20 feet away. About 1 tent at the most. I talk over mic again. He works some tents, still looting. So I move towards a tent he is bound to loot soon. Eventually he does.. as he enters the tent he looks right at me, but his spotlight spins quickly away and I doubt he sees me even though Im about 10 feet in front of him. He is focused on loot and nothing else. 

 

So I lock and load. Double tap to the head. Profit sawed-off and other odds and ends. 

 

Thank you "NotAGirl". Im sorry you were so focused that you did not hear me, see me, nor did you notice sidechat text that stayed up for 20 seconds on your screen. I would have probably just chatted with you had you responded in any way. But in DayZ my motto is: Dead Men Don't Talk. ;)

 

You consider "Well hello there!" and "Boo" friendly? mmkay...

[Irish. 4886]

You consider "Well hello there!" and "Boo" friendly? mmkay...

..its a start. I mean come on, you gotta admit its a step towards friendly for a long time KOS player ;) LOL

[Space Milk 195]

its funny how you point out someone else missing the point.. :facepalm:

I made a nice choice by not shooting the player on sight. I spoke to him, foolish as you call it though you fail to recognize the simple and glaring fact that it was night and I had the upper hand in every way shape and form, because it was an experimental server and I wanted to talk to him to perhaps make a friend or in the least learn where he had been so I did not retrace his steps in looting. It was my intention to interact with him, not shoot him. That was not a foolish choice on my part because I am quite experienced with this game, gaming in general and the tactics of combat from my real life training and I know how to protect myself in risky situations. I was in good cover and any advances on my position would have been met with hostile action. When I allowed him to "see me" by being out in his open view that was my last straw, to give him a chance to do something as at the point it had been a full 10 minutes of my trying to communicate and regardless if he spoke english or not he had to of known that someone was trying to talk to him, and if he was so oblivious as to not take notice after 10 minutes in a high PVP area with his headlamp on at night... well then I can only hope he learned his lesson.

I really don't get the need for negative judgement from others based on my actions? Its not like I killed a bambi. This was at the infamous NWAF. It would have been wrong for me to just let him go after all of that, because then he leaves the area thinking its safe to loot on a full server and him doing so and surviving is a typical thing to expect in DayZ. I mean this guy had all the tools a bandit uses for killing. He was not taking the route of survivalist here. He was gearing up and looting with the focus of weapons, that much was clear. I feel no ill in what I did, and really do not see how others would unless its their own pent up aggression towards their own in game losses.

This game needs a high level of fear otherwise it is just an easy survival sim and people will grow bored of it. I hope to do my small part in helping this game be what it always has been since the day I started playing it back in December of 2012 and ever since the mod dropped way back in April of the same year: Great.

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You don't get what I posted.

Whether you are experienced or not does not change the status of a decision being foolish or not. Any person regardless of experience, which you have not proven and it is subjective, can make a foolish decision. Doesnt mean anything.

Exactly HOW does your real life training apply to a video game? Why does this even need to be brought up? Gun training cannot be applied, and simple stranger danger type training is what everyone knows, either by education or experience in their own life. Whatever you received isn't special/doesn't have special effects. Unless you can positively show me how, there is no point to bring that up.

Maybe he wasn't oblivious? Maybe he just ignored you, could it just be that you look RELATIVELY fresh, tone of voice, unable to see a gun? It is night. Headlamp or not, maybe his contrast is down. There are way too many factors at play for you to simply dismiss him as

"Obvlivious."

Just so you aren't a bandit doesn't mean you don't hit military areas with the focus of a weapon. I don't know where you got that idea, but at some point, everyone, heroes, neutrals, and bandits will need to get the best weapons, clothing, defense, and ammo to defend themselves. Heroes especially need this if they are to be safe around bandits and cocky newspawn. Neutrals need it too, to increae their chances of survival. Some however may choose different clothing to look different and cool. If you seriously haven't seen neutrals and heroes with "bandit" level equipment then I doubt you have the "experience" you claim you have, at least from my perspective on experience.

"Thats tantamount to full on ignoring a zed attacking you. "

One event has something actively doing damage to you, the other doesn't. Zeek must always be eliminated, plsyers do not. Zeek always pose a threat, players, not necesarily.

"See, that was perfect and what I would have preferred to have happened in the least: communication.

If you play DayZ and cant even get that part right, its not going to end well for you. "

Yeah, lack of communication will get you kill more often than not, but thats from a objective general view. You are talking about in a subjective view, that if people refuse to talk to you, they die. If that's how you want to play, sure go ahead and make a story in DayZ, create a character, but don't pass it off as being nice, as being a neutral/hero, because you are a bandit, a controlling one at that.

"..its a start. I mean come on, you gotta admit its a step towards friendly for a long time KOS player LOL"

Makes sense, my bandit hunches were right. You aren't going to be a hero if you are going to kill non compliant innocents.

Edited April 19, 2014 by Space Milk

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

I try to be nice but there is those times where being nice just isn't going to work.

[Irish. 4886]

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You don't get what I posted.

Whether you are experienced or not does not change the status of a decision being foolish or not. Any person regardless of experience, which you have not proven and it is subjective, can make a foolish decision. Doesnt mean anything.

Exactly HOW does your real life training apply to a video game? Why does this even need to be brought up? Gun training cannot be applied, and simple stranger danger type training is what everyone knows, either by education or experience in their own life. Whatever you received isn't special/doesn't have special effects. Unless you can positively show me how, there is no point to bring that up.

Maybe he wasn't oblivious? Maybe he just ignored you, could it just be that you look RELATIVELY fresh, tone of voice, unable to see a gun? It is night. Headlamp or not, maybe his contrast is down. There are way too many factors at play for you to simply dismiss him as

"Obvlivious."

Just so you aren't a bandit doesn't mean you don't hit military areas with the focus of a weapon. I don't know where you got that idea, but at some point, everyone, heroes, neutrals, and bandits will need to get the best weapons, clothing, defense, and ammo to defend themselves. Heroes especially need this if they are to be safe around bandits and cocky newspawn. Neutrals need it too, to increae their chances of survival. Some however may choose different clothing to look different and cool. If you seriously haven't seen neutrals and heroes with "bandit" level equipment then I doubt you have the "experience" you claim you have, at least from my perspective on experience.

"Thats tantamount to full on ignoring a zed attacking you. "

One event has something actively doing damage to you, the other doesn't. Zeek must always be eliminated, plsyers do not. Zeek always pose a threat, players, not necesarily.

"See, that was perfect and what I would have preferred to have happened in the least: communication.

If you play DayZ and cant even get that part right, its not going to end well for you. "

Yeah, lack of communication will get you kill more often than not, but thats from a objective general view. You are talking about in a subjective view, that if people refuse to talk to you, they die. If that's how you want to play, sure go ahead and make a story in DayZ, create a character, but don't pass it off as being nice, as being a neutral/hero, because you are a bandit, a controlling one at that.

"..its a start. I mean come on, you gotta admit its a step towards friendly for a long time KOS player LOL"

Makes sense, my bandit hunches were right. You aren't going to be a hero if you are going to kill non compliant innocents.

lol.. and how much time did all that take you to write? Took me 2 seconds to not read it. ;)

 

Have a good one.. maybe calm down too. Relax.. just a forum.

[weedmasta 784]

..its a start. I mean come on, you gotta admit its a step towards friendly for a long time KOS player ;) LOL

 

Fair nuff :)

[Space Milk 195]

lol.. and how much time did all that take you to write? Took me 2 seconds to not read it. ;)

 

Have a good one.. maybe calm down too. Relax.. just a forum.

It took me two minutes, I check the forums everyone and a while, and respond if necessary. If you think I am angry based on emotionally connotationless text on your computer screen, then you are sorely mistaken.

[mugur 123]

While i do not shot people (at all), from my point of view the OP was more than nice. I wish every of my encounters would be like this.

99% of the time i have no chance even to speak, this happening even with my gun on the back (like i usually walk)

 

Talking with someone that is ignoring you simply leaves to much chances to end up dead when you turn your back. Every single player in DayZ has his own understanding of the game dynamics so everybody play it as they make them happy. This situation is no different at all. So, from me, congratulation for taking time to try to reach the other player. And that reason with "no english" is bullshit at best. Even a complete retard knows how to write "no english" in direct com and if you don't you should not be on a multiplayer game where people come from all over the world talking ENGLISH when needed. Playing in a high risk area, at night, while not paying attention whatsoeser is even more retarded...

 

just my 2 cents.

Edited April 19, 2014 by mugur

[hombrecz 832]

 

Chernarus Eradication Force - All survivors are seen as a threat to outside humanity and must be terminated. Blood testing is too risky. All threats must be dealt with swiftly, and their bodies disposed of ASAP (hide body).

 

This is my new RP idea for DayZ, and those of you that fussed over my other idea of being an honorable KOSer helped me get there.

So thank you. I shall be killing everything that moves now.  :murder:

 

That is kinda dumb RP idea which was already done so many times.

I clearly remember these jerks calling themselves something like "Medical force" or something, who were terrorizing coast and executing fresh spawns "in the name of science" or some other bullshit.

 

Sadly enough they did not want to reveal server name, they were affraid of being hunted down and being experimented upon themselves. Big boys.

[Intactus 128]

It's OK. You gave him a fair chance and plenty of time and opportunity to communicate, confront you and judge his course of action.
Ignorance gets you killed. Would have done the same.