Crossbow being effective

[BiGoDeViN (DayZ) 423]

It's a crossbow its gonna be useless against guns.

 

No amount of fake tweaks will change this.

 

For all you that will begin to claim "but daryl"

 

The show is full of crap, if Daryl was put out in a real non made up survival NROL situation he would have died to a person wielding a gun right away.

 

Lol. Are you serious, dude? Are we playing the same game?

 

How many times has a geared player been dominated by an Axe wielding freshie? Or been KO'd by FISTS while fully geared? Your argument might have some weight if all of this was real, but it isn't. And not one part of this game reflects reality. I've been shot once in the chest while fully geared and died instantly. But I've been unloaded into by an SKS as a bambi and not even passed out.

 

Basically, put crossbows in the game. If something's effectiveness against firearms is the basis for whether or not it should be added, then melee weapons shouldn't even be in the game.

Edited April 6, 2014 by BiGoDeViN

[pacific_coast 632]

the question is not how bad crossbows are

its how bad will crossbows be in game

[liquidsnake 275]

Why would you assume, if they are giving us a modern crossbow as pictured in the dev blog, that we will only have wooden bolts. Now your being silly. You can be contrary and pick apart any little thing ever to find ground for your point. But it does not logically follow, nor does it contribute to good discussion.

 

Instead, of play mr grumble butt. Why dont you suggest some of the different ways that it could be done well, with respect to the game and how it could create gameplay. Moping around saying 'it will never work' never gets anyone anywhere.

Really? I must've missed a dev blog then. The last one I've seen only featured a crappy home-made bow with wooden bolts. A modern crossbow with steel bolts would definitely find its way into my inventory

[nanoteknn 0]

look guys

http://youtu.be/P34w5y0znTc

[gibonez 3633]

look guys

http://youtu.be/P34w5y0znTc

 

WTF is up with that reload speed.

 

Garbage unrealistic crap.

 

 

..............

 

you can also mount rail accessories.............

 

I give up on this game , WE need mod tools NOW!!!

 

Hope this is fake.

Edited April 6, 2014 by gibonez

[C0bbler 17]

One way to make the crossbow worth while for hunting would be to make bullets make the quality of meat drop. Bullets fired in to game might break apart spoiling the meat somewhat with fragments and shrapnel where as a crossbow bolt would produce a clean kill. Maybe?

Other than that and being quiet they should be in no way better than guns.

[ganked 7]

well from that video I can understand that its probably going to get tweaked so it doesn't seem so op.. but if it keeps it basic function like that my m4 will see its self out the door. besides id probably take it due to the fact that im getting tired of holding an m4 anyway.

[DropBearChick 1217]

That fire rate is due to the fact that in that vid the reload animation hadnt been added yet,

[liquidsnake 275]

WTF is up with that reload speed.

 

Garbage unrealistic crap.

 

 

..............

 

you can also mount rail accessories.............

 

I give up on this game , WE need mod tools NOW!!!

 

Hope this is fake.

The semi-automatic fire is probably just placeholder for that reload animation we saw in the vid. At least that's what I hope...

And rail accessories on crossbows is possible, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say there.

[DedicateDdos 50]

WTF is up with that reload speed.

 

Garbage unrealistic crap.

 

 

..............

 

you can also mount rail accessories.............

 

I give up on this game , WE need mod tools NOW!!!

 

Hope this is fake.

 

I didn't want to say it but here it goes anyway: ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ALPHA, ...

 

some people really don't understand what  early access is, just because the devs are so nice to show us little snippets of their unfinished work doesn't mean it's going to be like that in the game.

 

Also take a look at actual hunting crossbows, yes you can mount accessories..

Edited April 6, 2014 by DedicateDdos

[Al Bobo 53]

I like the fact that crossbows and bows are coming, but I don't really like the way those zeds drop from a single bodyshot. Headshot kill is ok, bodyshot kill not so much. At least, not instant bodyshot kills. Do zeds bleed?

Some people have been saying that crossbows don't bring anything useful to gameplay. I disagree. Crossbow is silent and lethal, IF you can make a sneak attack and stay hidden so that you can reload. However, if there's many targets (or even one) zigzagging towards you, then you're fucked and it's time to draw a pistol and pray.

Judging from above videos, it's going to deliver it's damage regardless if the target is wearing a body armor or not. They should make it ignore armor in DayZ, too. Somebody should look around the internet and see if you can find any info if the crossbow bolt can go through a ballistic helmet... :P

For silent hunting, the crossbow will be great.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Al Bobo

[The_Monk 320]

look guys

http://youtu.be/P34w5y0znTc

 

Going through the other videos, he appears to have hacked in a few of the other weapons/items. That or he is running a private hive.

 

Also a bunch of the old arma 2 vehicles

[dcrypt 15]

look guys

http://youtu.be/P34w5y0znTc

 

Overall the crossbow design looks nice.

 

However, The reload is not nice, same goes for the sound.

 

Most likely the reload is already fixed (seen as though this guy is playing on a cracked version of the game.) But I don't think the sound will be any different. I can live with it though.

[frozenjaws 69]

i almost feel like we can have a bad crossbow with bad damage and bad aim, if they implemented that people hit by the bolt would have to remove the bolt itself before they could bandage it, that would make sense realistically and in gameplay. Come on, tell me thats not a bad idea ;) hehe

[liquidsnake 275]

i almost feel like we can have a bad crossbow with bad damage and bad aim, if they implemented that people hit by the bolt would have to remove the bolt itself before they could bandage it, that would make sense realistically and in gameplay. Come on, tell me thats not a bad idea ;) hehe

Good idea, actually. Bolts are supposed to cause death by bleeding, so if it takes like 30 seconds to remove the bolt (making it necessary to find proper cover as well) bofore you can stop the bleeding it would make the crossbow more realistic and a viable choice for killing. It would seriously hurt a player to hit them with a bolt during a firefight and really making him bleed for a while. I would really like this.

[pacific_coast 632]

cross bow with acog now i've seen everything!

 

it seems okay based on that vid...

 

needs a longer reload and less daryl

[BiGoDeViN (DayZ) 423]

you can also mount rail accessories.............

 

I give up on this game , WE need mod tools NOW!!!

 

Hope this is fake.

 

I swear to God, kid. Have you ever been around a real firearm? Crossbows have mounting rails. Just about any crossbow you purchase today has a rail for "accessories" as you put it. Please stop commenting on things you are not knowledgeable in.

[gibonez 3633]

I swear to God, kid. Have you ever been around a real firearm? Crossbows have mounting rails. Just about any crossbow you purchase today has a rail for "accessories" as you put it. Please stop commenting on things you are not knowledgeable in.

 

Never held a crossbow.

 

Heck never even seen one in person only handicapped people can hunt with them in this state.

[BiGoDeViN (DayZ) 423]

Never held a crossbow.

 

Heck never even seen one in person only handicapped people can hunt with them in this state.

 

Then why are you tripping balls over this? Almost every modern crossbow available has rails. And judging by the cracked video, the most unrealistic part was the reloading. Crossbows will be nice to see. We need something besides axes for zed combat.

 

Edit: That's a shitty law, dude. Where are you from?

Edited April 6, 2014 by BiGoDeViN

[-Gews- 7443]

Well, I looked at the current values for the crossbow...

-it's 1.2x more accurate than the M4A1 and half as accurate than the SKS (9 inch circle at 25 yards)

-it fires 2 rounds per second (what)

-muzzle velocity 100 m/s

-it does 1.6x the damage of 5.56x45mm and 0.7x of 7.62x51mm

-has the same shock and bleeding values as .22 LR

-maximum range ca. 365 meters

[gibonez 3633]

Then why are you tripping balls over this? Almost every modern crossbow available has rails. And judging by the cracked video, the most unrealistic part was the reloading. Crossbows will be nice to see. We need something besides axes for zed combat.

 

Edit: That's a shitty law, dude. Where are you from?

 

Illinois.

 

They justify it by stating that Crossbows make it too easy and require no skill to use against game.

 

Then again Illinois is really big on bow hunting.

[gibonez 3633]

Well, I looked at the current values for the crossbow...

-it's 1.2x more accurate than the M4A1 and half as accurate than the SKS (9 inch circle at 25 yards)

-it fires 2 rounds per second (what)

-muzzle velocity 100 m/s

-it does 1.6x the damage of 5.56x45mm and 0.7x of 7.62x51mm

-has the same shock and bleeding values as .22 LR

-maximum range ca. 365 meters

 

Wow thats terrible.....

 

especially 2 rounds a second.

 

It should be 2 rounds a minute if that.

[BiGoDeViN (DayZ) 423]

Illinois.

 

They justify it by stating that Crossbows make it too easy and require no skill to use against game.

 

Then again Illinois is really big on bow hunting.

 

That's ridiculous. In WV just about anything you can hunt with is legal.

[Judopunch 523]

Really? I must've missed a dev blog then. The last one I've seen only featured a crappy home-made bow with wooden bolts. A modern crossbow with steel bolts would definitely find its way into my inventory

... And you will assume that this will be the only amo they add to the game. Why would you do this? And yes there has been crossbow pictures and aluminum arrows pictures floating around for weeks now.

[TheCourierVX 40]

I've never heard of a crossbow shooting 100m before! Would that be an arcing shot, where you've angled up considerably to compensate for drop or is the common crossbow powerful enough that you don't need to angle much?

i can shot zomnie on more than 110m! Bandit over 75m