Loot grinding

[mgc 92]

As other's have said it's a survival game, finding food and water is suppose to be fun; saving yourself from starvation; actually finding a weapon should be a glorious moment that you go from being the hunted zombie-chow on the run to the predator, and if every bit of it feels like a grind there's always the option to just 'grind' for a gun and enough food to eat and water to drink until you can go hunting for players to kill with your newfound pistol or whatever you found as a weapon and try to thrive solely off other people if that's all that tickles your interests.

""finding food and water is suppose to be fun""

To me it's a necessity, not fun.

 

""finding a weapon should be a glorious moment""

Yeah, the first time it was all that and a bag of chips, but it got old real fast.

 

""try to thrive solely off other people""

I suppose.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Meanwhile in the....

 

[mgc 92]

That cow should smoke less.

[iBane 381]

Things are supposed to be rare and if the lootsystem is finished there should even be items some people will never see.

 

Dean said at Rezzed in the Roadmap discussion, some parts/items may only spawn on certain branches of the hive...meaning you'd not only have to scavenge your regular server for the parts/items you want, but other servers as well.  Not sure how this is supposed to add something to the experience or increase immersion, but that's what the man said.  Opens the door for some epic bartering and epic banditry.  

[mgc 92]

Dean said at Rezzed in the Roadmap discussion, some parts/items may only spawn on certain branches of the hive...meaning you'd not only have to scavenge your regular server for the parts/items you want, but other servers as well.  Not sure how this is supposed to add something to the experience or increase immersion, but that's what the man said.  Opens the door for some epic bartering and epic banditry.  

And more grinding.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

And more grinding.

No, it's called playing the game.  Grinding is what you do in WoW when you need to gather gold/mats/xp to get your precious epic or level up.  

[Bubbled Luff 27]

At the moment it's either grind ad infinitum or go PVP due to the lack of 'endgame' content, but given time that won't be the case - hopefully there will be much more to break up play by the time we get to beta. Really, we are playing right now to test the game; I would expect high(er) drop rates - particularly of newly added items.

Honestly, you have most freedom in this game between fresh spawn and mid-geared stage. I get a bit overprotective once I'm rocking a few rarer items and a full loadout and have to force myself into interaction with others.

[mgc 92]

No, it's called playing the game.  Grinding is what you do in WoW when you need to gather gold/mats/xp to get your precious epic or level up.  

Here you need to gather a gazillion parts to get your body / vehicle to work efficiently. It's exactly the same thing.

[mgc 92]

At the moment it's either grind ad infinitum or go PVP due to the lack of 'endgame' content, but given time that won't be the case - hopefully there will be much more to break up play by the time we get to beta. Really, we are playing right now to test the game; I would expect high(er) drop rates - particularly of newly added items.

Honestly, you have most freedom in this game between fresh spawn and mid-geared stage. I get a bit overprotective once I'm rocking a few rarer items and a full loadout and have to force myself into interaction with others.

I'm sure a lot of grinding will be involved in the end game features such as helicopters and bases. Don't overdo it.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Here you need to gather a gazillion parts to get your body / vehicle to work efficiently. It's exactly the same thing.

 

What do you want? Play the game or have it force fed to you?

[flygamer1 176]

I feel DayZ is already drowning in parts. It is very hard to find what you want. i.e. I still haven't found the scope i want in over 100 hours but a gazillion others. Is grinding loot designed to keep us happy or busy?

Then you just suck. If i want something i go find it. Learn where everything spawns and you will get it in no time.

[Bubbled Luff 27]

I'm sure a lot of grinding will be involved in the end game features such as helicopters and bases. Don't overdo it.

I don't deny that, but my point is there will at least be stuff to do break up the consta-loot. In fact, it sounds like specific items will require more time looting than at present.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

Is DayZ what happens to you while you grind, or is DayZ the grinding itself?

 

I still have no idea what you mean when you use the term "grind" in that way.

[mgc 92]

What do you want? Play the game or have it force fed to you?

Again with the black and white stuff. Think grey scales.

No, I don't want to have to grind for weeks to get my character fully kitted. Maybe 10 hours of game play tops. I know taking a risk to get useful items is a large part of the experience, but atm it feels like I'm taking risks without return for to long.

[Zeppa 562]

It will change when they get features complete etc. When people start to really form up and make trading etc, you can get that uberleetscope with 100 cans of beans.

Edit:
In short.
Alpha, lacks content and features.

Edited March 31, 2014 by Zeppa

[AzrailCross 48]

What I won't understand is why it's a 'grind' to begin with, why exactly do you want to be 'fully kited' .. I mean sure, my hardcore character is- no doubt, best of the best everything.

 

But again fact is all it takes is some naked guy with a fireaxe to sneak up behind him and he's dead in one fell swoop.

All it takes is finding a pistol with 1 bullet and a headshot and that fully kited character is dead, or a clip and you've got even better odds.. or the more common weapons like a shotgun or double-rifle that you find laying around quite often.

 

Having the best of the best equipment, your exact specification of clothing and all the mods to your primary and secondary weapon and a pristine fireaxe painted black all amount to .. so little it's laughable. I mean sure, a mosin with a long range scope and bi-pod is a requirement for sniper-lovers.

 

But aside from THAT having 'everything' is rather pointless when all you REALLY need is some sticks (or morphine) a couple bandages (or rags) and a pistol (or any common rifle/shotgun) and a few shots to chamber with enough food and water to keep you energized and hydrated which is truthfully a 20-40 minute job, 60-100 minutes if your unlucky but that's max.

Edited March 31, 2014 by AzrailCross

[tiadashi 262]

Stop "grinding"?

[mgc 92]

I still have no idea what you mean when you use the term "grind" in that way.

Grinding is doing the same or similar thing (often not requiring much thought) over and over in order to get something. Looting houses is a good example.

[mgc 92]

It will change when they get features complete etc. When people start to really form up and make trading etc, you can get that uberleetscope with 100 cans of beans.

Edit:

In short.

Alpha, lacks content and features.

If you listen to the devs, the coming content is just going to make us grind more buildings for the 1278 parts it takes to run a vehicle.

[makomachine 263]

Grinding is doing the same or similar thing (often not requiring much thought) over and over in order to get something. Looting houses is a good example.

Think its semantics , but a grind would be looting houses for a coin that when you get enough you can buy a LRS or level up. Having a hard time finding it in game isn't really a grind as most would define it.

[mgc 92]

Think its semantics , but a grind would be looting houses for a coin that when you get enough you can buy a LRS or level up. Having a hard time finding it in game isn't really a grind as most would define it.

You could say that every house does indeed have that coin. It represents the chance the item is there. Search enough houses and you will eventually find the item.

[Korsbaek 1778]

I know just the game for the people who hate looting. It's called Call of Duty.

[makomachine 263]

You could say that every house does indeed have that coin. It represents the chance the item is there. Search enough houses and you will eventually find the item.

You can search every house in Cherno and you'll never find a LRS - searching every net tent and hanger, then yes, but you got to walk the map for that.

[Zeppa 562]

Everything just points the fact that this is not game for you.

Do you feel that BF is grindy when you have to kill this and that to get certain items/attachments/guns, you cant escape it... some games have more of it and some less.

Difference is that game like Dayz doesnt have GRINDING in the meaning of the word. Grinding happens when you will achieve something when you do something always and for everyone.
Dayz doesnt give the certainty that you will find that scope, many games will give you the way to get it, ie kil x amount with the gun to get attachment x.

So dayz doesnt really have grinding, there is only grinding if you make it to be.

To the car parts thing, again trading is the shortcut... sparkplugs for can of beans, anyone?
This you cannot do in many games, there you have to do that "grind" as you say.

Edited March 31, 2014 by Zeppa

[mgc 92]

You can search every house in Cherno and you'll never find a LRS - searching every net tent and hanger, then yes, but you got to walk the map for that.

I was speaking in general, obviously.