The CZ 550

[hannibaldaplaya 1095]

So you want to play a military game.

 

Do you really think there is going to be all of those military bases, guns, and ammo in a poor ass country like Chernarus?

No, I do not want to play a military game.

 

I want to play a survival game where there are a variety of unique firearms. Civilian and Military. I wiant to be able to experiment with the guns I use for my playing sessions- Perhaps one life I may keep a lever action rifle, another an AKM. It varies up gameplay for everyone. You never know what your opponent will have- Now it seems to be fairly common what you encounter;

 

Mosins, M4A1s, SKS, Magnums, FNX45, M1911, .22 pistol and rifle, that one 9mm pistol, Double Barrel / Sawn Off

 

In general, there is little variety. We have a few types of guns but only one gun to go with that type, other then pistols.

[oregonized 673]

No, I do not want to play a military game.

 

I want to play a survival game where there are a variety of unique firearms. Civilian and Military. I wiant to be able to experiment with the guns I use for my playing sessions- Perhaps one life I may keep a lever action rifle, another an AKM. It varies up gameplay for everyone. You never know what your opponent will have- Now it seems to be fairly common what you encounter;

 

Mosins, M4A1s, SKS, Magnums, FNX45, M1911, .22 pistol and rifle, that one 9mm pistol, Double Barrel / Sawn Off

 

In general, there is little variety. We have a few types of guns but only one gun to go with that type, other then pistols.

It's not really a survival game if there is a thousand different guns and unlimited amounts of ammo to choose from.  

 

Finding a gun should be rare and ammo even rarer.  

[GrappleX 354]

It's not really a survival game if there is a thousand different guns and unlimited amounts of ammo to choose from.  

 

 

A thousand different guns and a limited amount of ammo would add to a survival game tho.

 

Do you keep the 243 winchesters you just found, and hope to find a rifle for them, or hold on to the 357 revolver and hope to find ammo for that.

 

Decisions like that would make it less of a military shoot em up and more of desperate survival game.

[oregonized 673]

A thousand different guns and a limited amount of ammo would add to a survival game tho.

 

Do you keep the 243 winchesters you just found, and hope to find a rifle for them, or hold on to the 357 revolver and hope to find ammo for that.

 

Decisions like that would make it less of a military shoot em up and more of desperate survival game.

The problem is, there isn't a limited amount of ammo and if you run out of ammo, it won't be long before you find more.

[GrappleX 354]

The problem is, there isn't a limited amount of ammo and if you run out of ammo, it won't be long before you find more.

 

You're right. 

 

If many more guns were to be implemented, it would make sense to turn down the ammo spawn rate.

[oregonized 673]

You're right. 

 

If many more guns were to be implemented, it would make sense to turn down the ammo spawn rate.

It's not really the amount of different guns that bugs me, it is the fact that you will always be able to replenish your ammo.  

 

This takes away from the game and lets it continue to be Battlefield: Chernarus.

[GrappleX 354]

It's not really the amount of different guns that bugs me, it is the fact that you will always be able to replenish your ammo.  

 

This takes away from the game and lets it continue to be Battlefield: Chernarus.

 

Ahh, I very much agree.

 

I'd like to have to cherish my rounds, not know more will be right around the corner.

[helcol 174]

My stance on guns

 

1. A large variety

 

2. Not a large quantity 

 

3. A large variety of ammo

 

4. Not a large quantity of ammo

 

This is how I feel, after the alpha, guns/ammo should be.

[Demoth 366]

It's not really the amount of different guns that bugs me, it is the fact that you will always be able to replenish your ammo.

This takes away from the game and lets it continue to be Battlefield: Chernarus.

That's why they need to have more guns that don't share ammo types. That way maybe only one box of ammo for your particular gun spawns.

[Capo 323]

 

No.  We already have plenty of guns to use. 

 

 

 

... so lets throw all other guns out of the window, limit our variety in firearms, and make most people have the same damn guns.

 

SOUNDS LIKE A GREAAAAAAAT IDEA!

 

can you guys get a room? OR3, stop trolling. Aradia, stop being so easily trolled. 

 

The CZ-550 hunting rifle would be fucking great. More variety, yes please.  

Edited March 11, 2014 by Capo

[Daemonkid 493]

Ammo spawns are like this for now, so we can actually test the weapons. Everything will come full circle when the game is considered ready for release.

[helcol 174]

No.  We already have plenty of guns to use. 

You say that we have plenty of guns to use but in this post:

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/179419-full-weetod-fresh-spawns/page-3

Will do, I wouldn't want you there anyway.

 

Also, my server would be PVE so you wouldn't like it.

You say you are going to have a PvE server. So my question is: why the HELL you would want to limit gun variety?!?

 

Gun variety makes it so that the gun you find might not be your favorite, but it is nonetheless a gun that can put your life or others life at risk.

 

Also, what makes you think the guns that are in the game now are going to be the only guns available upon release?

[irl-calibre 744]

always felt like the poor man's DMR in the mod, but I kinda liked it! dunno why the wouldn't add it to SA.

[newberryes 40]

Look guys we allready have the mosin whit possible long range scope and the wiki has leaked that we are going to get SVD.We don't need bunch of sniper rifles like in the mod and we don't need more beanz steeling bush hippie snipers.

[Jex 1104]

We need more relevant weapons. Finding an SKS in a police station just seems wrong unless the Czech police issues these out? Where are the AK's and why the M4 over the M16 (which is more popular). Is an FNX a popular model - i never heard of it until dayz.

 

The other question is, do we want the guns in dayz realistically modeled for the region we're in? Or are we going to be more lax and have say 4 snipers rifles, 6 assault rifles, some sub-machine guns and a variety of pistols (Shouldn't there be more pistols than anything else?)?

[Demoth 366]

We need more relevant weapons. Finding an SKS in a police station just seems wrong unless the Czech police issues these out? Where are the AK's and why the M4 over the M16 (which is more popular). Is an FNX a popular model - i never heard of it until dayz.

The other question is, do we want the guns in dayz realistically modeled for the region we're in? Or are we going to be more lax and have say 4 snipers rifles, 6 assault rifles, some sub-machine guns and a variety of pistols (Shouldn't there be more pistols than anything else?)?

You can find almost any weapon in any country. Remember, Chenarus had a civil war going on and the US Marines got involved. Add in a pandemic and you get other peace keeping nations involved.

It's also a backwater Eastern bloc country, so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of gun running wasn't happeninflg there.

[dafix 22]

What other guns from the mod should be brought over? (say AS 50 w/ thermal and I will facepalm)

M14, definetly that one. Add the long range scope for it, and voila, DMR :) They should probably nerf it though. Also the M1911 handgun and the AK-s.

I think they should also add Thompson Submachine gun and STG 44 not from the mod but it feels like they belong there.

[6The6Count6 28]

M14, definetly that one. Add the long range scope for it, and voila, DMR :) They should probably nerf it though. Also the M1911 handgun and the AK-s.

I think they should also add Thompson Submachine gun and STG 44 not from the mod but it feels like they belong there.

 

Thompson maybe, but STG 44 is an incredibly rare weapon even though i love that gun.

I think US weapons should be the rarest, with european weapons be uncommon but findable and then Russian/eastern weapons being the norm in gun spawns, european/US military should be on a almost never found. Just dosent fit the setting. Same with clothing.

[Capo 323]

Look guys we allready have the mosin whit possible long range scope and the wiki has leaked that we are going to get SVD.We don't need bunch of sniper rifles like in the mod and we don't need more beanz steeling bush hippie snipers.

 

they can half the spawnrate of the mosin, so then it doesn't make a difference. At the moment we have one of each "class" of weapon, adding more isn't going to hurt anyone. 

[helcol 174]

they can half the spawnrate of the mosin, so then it doesn't make a difference. At the moment we have one of each "class" of weapon, adding more isn't going to hurt anyone. 

variety = should feel limitless

 

quantity = should be a luxury to find a gun. period.