winner loser and importance of accept responsibility for FAIL

[wild_man 4442]

Nobody like to die in dayz because 99% of time WE ALL REALISE we FAIL :|

 

Ok there is some things can make character die is outside control of player in dayz

Internet connection fail

Bug/glitch in game code

Player who using hacks for killing you

 

If you dying from this things is ok, keep calm relax don’t make rage QQ because this don’t change nothing was not your responsibility, just accept and continue to play is only game :thumbsup:  :rolleyes:  

 

 

But if your character dying from other things like player or zombie or health problem etc you must realise there was something you could do for preventing this from happen. 

 

YOU FAIL

 

Is fact. ;)

 

What we doing with this knowledge is important thing, we have choice to make positive experience or negative experience, is YOU who decide which way you going way of winner or way of loser

 

 

All success people like billionaire and top football player all guys who getting to top in life NEVER BLAME NOBODY when they fail

 

THEY ACCEPTING FULL RESPONSIBILITY

 

They welcome FAILURE and see is pure opportunity for learn and come back in stronger way, they using information to reduce future mistake and increase future success

 

Is mentality of the winner and strategy for improve always if you doing like me this strategy stop to read is nothing for you here, go and enjoy game  B) 

 

 

 

If you finding after you FAIL to keep character safe you need to blame anything except yourself and you feeling pure rage against game/rocket/other player and don’t accept responsibility for own actions this is mentality of the LOSER >:(

 

Is dangerous cycle design by weak guys subconscious mind to protect fragile ego from reality, is terrible strategy for life, for relationship for computer game FOR EVERYTHINGS

 

Is strategy for everytime losing and never improving and you need to look on yourself be honest in brutal way AND MAKE CHANGE before is too late :o

 

 

 

 

Look this forums

 

How many time every day is coming rage QQ topic by guys who don’t manage to accept responsibility for their FAIL :huh:

 

Look how much blame they throwing around in desperate attempt to deny true reality of situation

 

Everyone know you never stop KOS but too many guys continue to play in crazy suicide way and make easy for KOS player and after make rage post :D

 

Is YOU I talking to GET GRIP and begin to make BETTER CHOICE and learn to accept maybe there is problem with way YOU playing the game

 

Don’t worry how other guys playing focus on mistakes you making and put energy into positive action learn and improve stop to waste energy to fight truth

Edited March 10, 2014 by KoS

[TheWanderingMan 170]

u wot m8

[Leo Balzac 190]

While I agree with what you're saying here, saying it won't change anything; especially on these forums.

[Hablam 2]

Great post!

[cav_guy 62]

Good post.  I agree with it all, although I don't think this will stop the rage posts.  

 

I'd personally be embarrassed to write up some of the ways I've died.  I may have been KOS'd a few times, but mostly it was because I was lazy and let myself be seen at all.

[or'dinii 28]

Please enlighten me;

 

Since there is no incentive to do anything in DayZ at the moment, other than attempt to test new features, I will call your KOS as much a fail as me volutarily jump off the roof of a building. If I decide that is my goal, I do not fail just because you have a differnet opinion on the matter :)

 

I actually SUCCEED if my goal is to suicide off the control tower in NEAF, because that is the goal I set since DayZ gives you no goals at the moment.

 

So, according to my own standards, I succeed with everything and anything until further notice :D

[Ghost43 35]

Your words and spacing make my BRAIN hurt.

 

I read as much of your post before my nose started bleeding and you've got a noble concept there. However; you're dealing with human beings. They are varied, motivated by things that many can't comprehend and you cannot control them.

If more people played this way then the world would be a better place...and then we could stop all the wars and all drink lemonade.

[St. Jimmy 1631]

I don't fail if I get shot. The one who shoots me very likely fails to understand what DayZ is about.

[wild_man 4442]

I don't fail if I get shot. The one who shoots me very likely fails to understand what DayZ is about.

 

and what is dayz about? :huh:

 

Dayz is about SURVIVAL ;)

 

guy who shoot you still alive is pure SUCCESS  :D

 

you are dead is pure FAIL :|

 

you don't need Einstein brain for seeing who is winner and who is loser in this situation  :D

 

you are in pure denial loser mind state :huh:

Edited March 10, 2014 by KoS

[hannibaldaplaya 1095]

and what is dayz about? :huh:

 

Dayz is about SURVIVAL ;)

 

guy who shoot you still alive is pure SUCCESS  :D

 

you are dead is pure FAIL :|

 

you don't need Einstein brain for seeing who is winner and who is loser in this situation  :D

 

you are in pure denial loser mind state :huh:

then guy who shoots him finds that he ruined all the cans of beans in his backpack because he had to spray and pray and was a shit shot, then he starves to death

[wild_man 4442]

then guy who shoots him finds that he ruined all the cans of beans in his backpack because he had to spray and pray and was a shit shot, then he starves to death

 

 

maybe

 

then he too is fail :)

 

and I hope he having ability to accept responsibility and learn how to make headshot for the win :P

[Sloddor 167]

I love you KOS! I like the way you talk =)

[daisho 74]

I don't fail if I get shot. The one who shoots me very likely fails to understand what DayZ is about.

 

This point exactly.

 

 

and what is dayz about? :huh:

 

Dayz is about SURVIVAL ;)

 

guy who shoot you still alive is pure SUCCESS  :D

 

you are dead is pure FAIL :|

 

 

From that point of view, he ain't even wrong (even Super Mario and Minesweeper are survival games), he just doesn't get the bigger picture..

[doctorwhy 157]

Hardly anyone takes responsibility for their own failures or mistakes in real life why would a game be any different?

[or'dinii 28]

Hardly anyone takes responsibility for their own failures or mistakes in real life why would a game be any different?

Because in here we can define our own goal, irrespective of IRL goals.

 

AKA looting 100 items and giving them away before someone manages to kill you = A goal. Heck, runing across the map in your undies can be a goal, and you can acheive it, just as any other person can have the goal to kill 10 characters before he's taken down. The goal of this game is what you make it, for now.

 

My goal? 0 kills. Still successful -.- (Yes, I do not count getting killed as being a failure, no matter how silly some "guy" thinks it is)

 

I just define my success as the same thing that somebody else define as fail.  

[wild_man 4442]

 I do not count getting killed as being a failure

 

 

 

this is pure no sense statement for survival game :huh:

 

I agree about different guys having different goals but this goals existing inside bigger goal which is STAY ALIVE ;)

 

example I say to myself 'today goal is find nice gun also some ammo and try to get good health status' :rolleyes:

 

if I find nice gun and ammo and eat drink avoid zombie and get good health status but then I DYING from player shoot me in face is true I achieving SOME GOALS :D

 

but was mission success? when I stand on beach no gun bad health am I winner?

 

NO OF COURSE NOT :huh:

 

is possible enjoy success and failure in many ways but ultimate point of dayz is survive PROTECT CHARACTER  and avoid the death

 

it don't matter how many box you ticking on to do list when you die life is end YOU LOSE DAYZ and this particular game is finish :thumbsup:  :P

 

point of OP is how we react to this ultimate defeat

 

do we look on why we dying and realise was our fault and learn for future? ;)

 

or do we rage and QQ about guys playing in way we don't agree? :o

 

this is choice all guys having and too many choosing 2nd way and as result they missing big chance to improve approach to game :huh:

Edited March 10, 2014 by KoS

[or'dinii 28]

this is pure no sense statement for survival game :huh:

 

I agree about different guys having different goals but this goals existing inside bigger goal which is STAY ALIVE ;)

 

example I say to myself 'today goal is find nice gun also some ammo and try to get good health status' :rolleyes:

 

if I find nice gun and ammo and eat drink avoid zombie and get good health status but then I DYING from player shoot me in face is true I achieving SOME GOALS :D

 

but was mission success? when I stand on beach no gun bad health am I winner?

 

NO OF COURSE NOT :huh:

 

is possible enjoy success and failure in many ways but ultimate point of dayz is survive PROTECT CHARACTER  and avoid the death

 

it don't matter how many box you ticking on to do list when you die life is end YOU LOSE DAYZ and this particular game is finish :thumbsup:  :P

 

point of OP is how we react to this ultimate defeat

 

do we look on why we dying and realise was our fault and learn for future? ;)

 

or do we rage and QQ about guys playing in way we don't agree? :o

 

this is choice all guys having and too many choosing 2nd way and as result they missing big chance to improve approach to game :huh:

When the only thing I need to watch out for, in a zombie post-apocolypse game, are the other human characters, it is not a survival game, it is a FPS.

 

I do not treat DayZ as a FPS, so no, it is not a fail.

 

Since the only goal for this game is what you make it yourself...killing me cannot automatically be deemed as a failure on my part. KOS'ing players is something I do not include in my gameplay, I treat them as bugs of the game.

 

When game is finished...it will be another situation completely. Now it is just a playground in which they are building the toys while we play. 

[Irish. 4886]

I had thought about making a post about this very thing.. that dying is a good thing, because you get to learn from your mistakes and start over fresh. With this game, having no real focus or end game, starting over fresh is a lot of fun. Some of my best times were as a fresh spawn with no cares in the world, meeting other players. I like what you have done here KoS. I understand there may be some language barriers with the way you type, but I personally enjoy it and see no reason why people should fault you for that. 

 

MMOSS - Massive Multiplayer Online Survival Sandbox. 

 

This is what Dayz is essentially. A sandbox. That you are solely tasked with surviving in. How you go about doing that is up to you. Nobody can say how it should be played, and I really wish people could understand that. I guess its a maturity thing, but getting upset about how others play a game that has no real rules is absurd. You do you, let them do whatever they want. If you can accomplish that, its much easier to focus on your mistakes when things go wrong and learn from them. Over time you start to survive so long, and so effortlessly that the game truly opens up to your imagination and the fun is limitless. 

 

See you in Chernarus.. one way or another ;)

[wild_man 4442]

When the only thing I need to watch out for, in a zombie post-apocolypse game, are the other human characters, it is not a survival game, it is a FPS. :huh: is having guns for shoot is having first person, for sure is FPS element

 

I do not treat DayZ as a FPS, so no, it is not a fail. is survival game, don't believe??? ask rocket and fail to survive is fail :P

 

Since the only goal for this game is what you make it yourself...killing me cannot automatically be deemed as a failure on my part. KOS'ing players is something I do not include in my gameplay, I treat them as bugs of the game. pure denial :huh:

 

When game is finished...it will be another situation completely. Now it is just a playground in which they are building the toys while we play. point IS survive keep character safe this exist from start AGAIN I SAYING POINT OF GAME IS SURVIVE ;)

 

 

I had thought about making a post about this very thing.. that dying is a good thing, because you get to learn from your mistakes and start over fresh. With this game, having no real focus or end game, starting over fresh is a lot of fun. Some of my best times were as a fresh spawn with no cares in the world, meeting other players. I like what you have done here KoS. I understand there may be some language barriers with the way you type, but I personally enjoy it and see no reason why people should fault you for that. 

 

MMOSS - Massive Multiplayer Online Survival Sandbox. 

 

This is what Dayz is essentially. A sandbox. That you are solely tasked with surviving in. How you go about doing that is up to you. Nobody can say how it should be played, and I really wish people could understand that. I guess its a maturity thing, but getting upset about how others play a game that has no real rules is absurd. You do you, let them do whatever they want. If you can accomplish that, its much easier to focus on your mistakes when things go wrong and learn from them. Over time you start to survive so long, and so effortlessly that the game truly opens up to your imagination and the fun is limitless. 

 

See you in Chernarus.. one way or another ;)

 

this guy get it :beans:

Edited March 10, 2014 by KoS

[or'dinii 28]

KOS;

 

I didn't say DayZ does not contain FPS elements, I said it is more a FPS in a sense than a survival game, not the exact wording, but getting at me like that calaiming there is no FPS element in the game is just you misunderstanding my posts.

 

You seem to be totally oblibious to the fact that I, if I so desire, can start playing a pure FPS and set my own goals, and whatever you think of it is irrelevant.

 

Ask yourself this, with reference to your own claim I am in pure denial;

Do you honestly believe I would continue playing a game in a way that pissed me off?

 

You play the game your way, I play it my way. I do not care an inch if you think it's fail...because I have fun. Which means I am successful, by definition.

[wild_man 4442]

KOS;

 

I didn't say DayZ does not contain FPS elements, I said it is more a FPS in a sense than a survival game, not the exact wording, but getting at me like that calaiming there is no FPS element in the game is just you misunderstanding my posts.

 

You seem to be totally oblibious to the fact that I, if I so desire, can start playing a pure FPS and set my own goals, and whatever you think of it is irrelevant.

 

Ask yourself this, with reference to your own claim I am in pure denial;

Do you honestly believe I would continue playing a game in a way that pissed me off?

 

You play the game your way, I play it my way. I do not care an inch if you think it's fail...because I have fun. Which means I am successful, by definition.

 

 

you talk about misunderstand but you missing complete point of discussion :huh:

 

way you playing game is separate point to winning losing game

 

everyone realise is sandbox so method of play is infinite limit only by imaginations of players

 

but fact remain rocket design this sandbox to make ultimate challenge of survival ;)

 

success is not measure by how you playing, this is like saying you win football match because you enjoy the fun journey to stadium :lol:

 

is great you play in way you enjoy, me too and for sure 99% of all guys doing same

 

but point of game is to survive therefore if you die you fail to survive

 

this is simple logic and pure fact ;)

 

this conversation is about how guys coping when they fail to survive but you are unique and refuse to accept fail to survive = fail :huh:

 

so you try to make new argue about way you playing you enjoy so you can never fail :D

 

this is simple ignore of rockets game design :|

[or'dinii 28]

Yo, I've been killed 3 times since I started playing some months ago, current character is about 20 hours or so old, has been around the outer edges of the map, is still living, but I do not approach other characters...yet.

 

I do not log in with the intent of getting killed, but if I do get popped...it is not a fail. Think of it like this;

 

Dean: Goal of game is to survive for the longest possible time.

Player: But that is a drag, I'll rather do something else (even though I certainly CAN attempt to survive as long as possible.

Dean: The point, again, is survival...

KOS: Yeah, that's what he said, survival.

Player: So?

Dean: Didn't you read?

Player: Didn't you see my reply? Do you reject it?

KOS: I do

Dean: Me too

Player: So? You want me to play in a differnet way because that is your intention with the game? As you say, IT IS A SANDBOX, meaning you can do whatever you want...create your own "story".

 

If you use the arguement that the game is a SANDBOX, please allow others to play different than yourself, and accept it.

[wild_man 4442]

Yo, I've been killed 3 times since I started playing some months ago, current character is about 20 hours or so old, has been around the outer edges of the map, is still living, but I do not approach other characters...yet.

 

I do not log in with the intent of getting killed, but if I do get popped...it is not a fail. Think of it like this;

 

Dean: Goal of game is to survive for the longest possible time.

Player: But that is a drag, I'll rather do something else (even though I certainly CAN attempt to survive as long as possible.

Dean: The point, again, is survival...

KOS: Yeah, that's what he said, survival.

Player: So?

Dean: Didn't you read?

Player: Didn't you see my reply? Do you reject it?

KOS: I do

Dean: Me too

Player: So? You want me to play in a differnet way because that is your intention with the game? As you say, IT IS A SANDBOX, meaning you can do whatever you want...create your own "story".

 

If you use the arguement that the game is a SANDBOX, please allow others to play different than yourself, and accept it.

 

 

beans for funny reply :beans:  :D

 

but we going forever in circle :huh:

 

best to agree we disagree ;)

[or'dinii 28]

Sure thing, keep KOS'ing -.^

[Mullraugh 1151]

Death is inevitable. People just need to learn how to accept that. If I get shot I don't blame the other dudes, or my friends, or nonexistent hacks, or even myself.

I blame GREEN MOUNTAIN.