disabling weapons when abandoned

[kOepi (DayZ) 35]

hey guys,

I would like to request a feature to disable weapons in the game.

1. removing one part which is essential for the weapons function, bolt, piston, whatever.

2. destroying the weapon with an axe or through pistol and rifle rounds when laying on the ground.

I think this would be an interesting feature for anybody who is changing his weapon or finds weapons that should
not be use to anyone else.

greetz

kOepi

@ commentators: I am not looking for alternate workaround, that have a different outcome.

Edited March 8, 2014 by kOepi

[doviszxc 194]

+1

[enforcer1975 1111]

...remove the bullets...?

[kOepi (DayZ) 35]

@enforcer

do you think that nobody else than you has bullets?
with this ability I can lay down the correct bullets next to the weapon and move on.

[So Sexy 259]

Just drop it in a random bush.

[pale1776 375]

No. Theyre was.a guy earlier who wanted to ruin loot and it doesnt respawn until its moved, even after restart. All he wanted was to ruin peoples experience, he said it himself. Every faggot ingame would server hop just to ruin loot spawns and disable guns.

[kOepi (DayZ) 35]

well owen

that is not my intention, I dont want to ruin anybodys game in an unfair matter.
disabling and destroying weapons is part of infantry SOPs all over the world.
I just dont want to get shot in the back by a weapon I left myself a few minutes ago.

faggots normally do other stuff than being faster than anybody else at the loot and
then disable it.

[harley001 315]

I just want to be able to hit the gun.  If i see a mosin on the ground it would be nice to be able to smack it with my axe to break it.  Deny its use to anyone else.  Also could be a good way to prevent a guy you disarmed from picking up his weapon and shooting you.

[gomeowmeow 45]

i personally think its a good idea, but the people that play dayz make me think it is a crappy idea, every gun that someone sees they are probably going to put a few rounds into it and ruin it for the next person

[enforcer1975 1111]

disabling and destroying weapons is part of infantry SOPs all over the world.

 

We are not playing soldiers in DayZ and we are not fighting a war in a foreign country...it is foreign but we are not soldiers. yada yada survivors would do that, too. stfu

[agouti 105]

In there mod, I would go to this clan's base and run over all their tents full of stuff. It was war. Things always escalated from mere survival to base building to war. We'd loot all we could and simply destroy the rest.

[rickenbacker 190]

Just drop them in the woods, and drop the ammo somewhere far from the gun. That's what I do. 

[kOepi (DayZ) 35]

We are not playing soldiers in DayZ and we are not fighting a war in a foreign country...it is foreign but we are not soldiers. yada yada survivors would do that, too. stfu

maybe you are not a soldier, because you trained since your childhood how to operate and fire guns accurately,

aswell as physical training which allows you to carry heavy gear over long distances.

I have no idea what you do in your spare time to think that everybody can do what can be done in the game by anybody.

 

[dvsilverwing 241]

-1

Horrible idea, frankly, just because you don't intend to destroy every weapon you see doesn't mean others won't, and I guarantee you they will. We don't need to make usable weapons even harder to find, and dealing with armed individuals is part of the game, whether or not its a gun you've passed or not. The intentional ruining of items will be used to grief 90% of the time.

I know it seems like a good idea in your mind, but you really need to think about the side effects of adding something like this in game... They completely negate any positives to adding it.

Edited March 13, 2014 by dvsilverwing

[mithrawndo 166]

The ramifications to loot spawning mechanics with this suggestion are HUGE: Assuming this feature is added, do you replace the broken weapon at the next spawn cycle*? If so, how do you combat people deliberately breaking all the weapons they see that they DON'T want so that they get another "roll" on the one they do when the timer rolls around? If you don't, how do you combat the fact that eventually every single weapon on a server will be broken?

 

A more appropriate way to achieve your goal would be allowing sabotage of weapons, so that the next time it fired it dealt damage to the person holding it. It would also add another use for the weapon cleaning kit.

*Loot spawn cycles coupled with item/server "stock take" are by far the most likely mechanic we'll see for the loot/restart issue

[valtsuh 68]

...remove the bullets...?

if someone have bullets

[valtsuh 68]

actually you can destroy it if you hit with something

[doublebrain 255]

People act like the are paranoid when playing DayZ...

....Have to destroy every single loot ... every weapon..... kill every coast bambi.... they could kill me some day..

 

And no I dont want to find only ruined weapons where ever I go because someone thought it would safe their life at some point.

[kOepi (DayZ) 35]

symon, the way its done now, you dont find any weapon, because people hide it.
the outcome of my suggestion and the reality at this very moment is basically the same.

@mythrandwo

there is evil in your suggestion.

@dvsilverwing

the only new sideeffect might be that you are carrying a weapon around that cannot shoot anymore.
anything else IS THE SAME as it is now. you dont find more weapons that work, only because
you cannot sabotage or disable them.
 

[kaix12 34]

I just want to be able to hit the gun.  If i see a mosin on the ground it would be nice to be able to smack it with my axe to break it.  Deny its use to anyone else.  Also could be a good way to prevent a guy you disarmed from picking up his weapon and shooting you.

 

You can't break a mosin with an axe, you can't even break a mosin from 5x overloaded ammo...

 

But I do not agree, yes I have wanted to have this ability and it would be useful now, but once guns are rarer I think the effect would be the opposite as instead of punishing these heavily equipped guys it would reward them, as after all bandits nearly always are in groups meaning they have the numbers to fight over airbases and survive and therefore get all the equipment and then just camp the airfield or base, destroying all the guns that spawn and killing all the people go there.

 

So once Dayz has a lot of these features this ability will just inpower the ones with guns already as they can freely stop others who will try and kill them from getting the equipment needed

[doublebrain 255]

Trust me not too much people make the effort and hide weapons. But if they simply can go into the action menu and click on "disable weapon" the numbers will be at least doubled. Even if it would take like 30 seconds to disable a gun. The numbers of people destroying weapons would increase quite much for sure. People are lazy but if you make it comfortable for them....

[enforcer1975 1111]

maybe you are not a soldier, because you trained since your childhood how to operate and fire guns accurately,

aswell as physical training which allows you to carry heavy gear over long distances.

I have no idea what you do in your spare time to think that everybody can do what can be done in the game by anybody.

 

 

What? I think you didn't understand what you said yourself...phrase it in german.

 

Trust me not too much people make the effort and hide weapons. But if they simply can go into the action menu and click on "disable weapon" the numbers will be at least doubled. Even if it would take like 30 seconds to disable a gun. The numbers of people destroying weapons would increase quite much for sure. People are lazy but if you make it comfortable for them....

 

I took the time to hide weapons i don't need/want/could use but those damn things just respawn all the time :lol:

Edited March 14, 2014 by Enforcer

[kOepi (DayZ) 35]

What? I think you didn't understand what you said yourself...phrase it in german.

vielleicht bist du kein soldat, weil du schon seit deiner kindheit gelernt hast verschiedenste Waffen

zu benutzen und präzise damit zu schießen, genauso, wie du seit deiner kindheit schon

große strecken mit viel gewicht gelaufen bist.

In diesem Fall würde ich verstehen, dass du denkst, dass der player oder zumindestens

seine Eigenschaften nicht dem eines Soldaten entsprechen.

Allerdings würde ich dann nicht verstehen, warum du denkst, dass das alle machen

in ihrer Freizeit seit ihrer Kindheit, ohne ein Soldat zu sein, dessen Grad sie in

eigentlich nur in der Armee erhalten.

"we are not playing soldiers..."

if you havent noticed, nobody is forcing you to stay at a certain way to play this game,

what I do and what you do is our right.

So, when I play as a soldier in a team, against others in a competitive way, it is

within the freedom that gives this game.

[pale1776 375]

Sadly, most people would run around doing this to troll.

[Sedstr 18]

I like the idea, but you think server admins are abusing the system now, if this were added, the number of servers would go up and the number of admins abusing the system would go up.