Ruger 10/22 damage

[darksteeljorge 96]

So I was playing in experimental branch and I found the awesome ruger 10/22, I got a 30 round magazine for it and of course I tested it no some zombies. The ruger 10/22 SUCKS!

 

I know is .22rl which is the smallest caliber in the market but taking 6-8 shots to kill a zombie ? Then it is so innacurate I couldn't tested head shots. Due to the large population of zombies in the town I was.

 

Now, I couldn't test it in anyone but I'm pretty sure is going to take a lot to kill the individual.

 

I want to know something, you think the ruger should deal more damage ? In my own opinion it should be 1 headshot kill either players or zombies, and 3 shots to the body a zombie and 5 shots to the body a player.

 

 

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[SaveMeJebus 164]

Funny thing is ... .22LR is almost the exact same CALIBER as a 5.56 (.223 *corrected sorry) just a huge difference in the bullet mass, as long as the distance isn't ridiculous a headshot from a .22lr should be expected to be lethal I would imagine.

 

**another thing about body damage tho is with the low amount of shock that the .22lr round actually does create a person could theoretically soak up quite a few in the body granting no major organs or arteries were hit.

Edited March 9, 2014 by SaveMeJebus

[synystr 118]

Funny thing is ... .22LR is almost the exact same CALIBER as a 5.56 (.2188) just a huge difference in the bullet mass, as long as the distance isn't ridiculous a headshot from a .22lr should be expected to be lethal I would imagine.

 

**another thing about body damage tho is with the low amount of shock that the .22lr round actually does create a person could theoretically soak up quite a few in the body granting no major organs or arteries were hit.

 

Its actually .223... and the reason why the 5.56mm or any of the rifle rounds do damage is the SPEED of the bullet not the mass. F = m x a. You wanna keep the bullet light so you can get a greater acceleration with less gunpowder. 

 

The .22LR is just a tiny bullet with a tiny gunpowder amount. I'm no expert but I have fired one and its comparable to firing a paintball gun, recoil wise haha. It just doesn't have the stopping power to drop someone with chest shots.

 

But, if you were to put a .22LR bullet in a massive artillery shell somehow and fired it. It could decimate someone. It all comes down to Force = Mass x Acceleration.

 

Hypothetical future rail guns could launch a 1kg round at like 1 percent the speed of light. The resulting explosion would be equal to the bomb dropped on Hiroshima... Issac Newton is one scary ass mofo.

[gsp167 95]

Funny thing is ... .22LR is almost the exact same CALIBER as a 5.56 (.2188) just a huge difference in the bullet mass, as long as the distance isn't ridiculous a headshot from a .22lr should be expected to be lethal I would imagine.

 

**another thing about body damage tho is with the low amount of shock that the .22lr round actually does create a person could theoretically soak up quite a few in the body granting no major organs or arteries were hit.

 

Yeah ok.

 

I think you confused .223 and .22LR.

[IkaikaKekai 1957]

I do think they need to tweak it, a headshot with a .22 LR should be deadly (someone said up to at least 300m), now yeah center mass shots on the other hand are a different story.  Also the .22 LR is not the smallest caliber (I believe there are .17 cal rounds/guns out there, equivalent to your standard BB gun BB in size, and there are even SHORTER .22 rounds).  The 5.56/.223 round is only slightly larger caliber wise than the .22, but as said it's the amount of gunpowder behind it (9mm is the roughly the same diameter as a .357, but the .357 is usually used to describe a magnum load) and there are .22 Magnums out there as well.

[alldaypk 63]

The .22lr round enters the skull, but doesn't come out the other side, instead it bounces, BOUNCES around in the head doing god knows what to the brain.

 

Small bullet + small charge = relatively low force, meaning body-shots won't slow a man, but when it hits a vital organ or artery it will kill them, otherwise it's a only matter of causing enough trauma and/or bleeding to kill them.

 

Edit: Here's a video on the the penetration of the .22LR:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUM1r_444CY&list=TLevH9ISyVARdsWTlK-KoDB45y6j1MlCfG

Edited March 8, 2014 by Alldaypk

[AP_Norris 1018]

It should be like having someone drive a small nail into you.

Where as 5.56 would be someone driving a small nail through you harder and it going right through you as well.

It's hard to say how much killing power leg, arm and lower torso shots should have because they don't have much more effect than hurting, bleeding and shock.

7.62 are a bit easier with legs and arms because they can blow holes big enough to always cause bleeding from an artery.

Oh yes :) http://www.healthline.com/health/gastrointestinal-perforation#Overview

[DemonGroover 8836]

Are you saying you didn't get a headshot?  Headshots should be instakill regardless of gun.

 

However i think 6-8 body shots on a zombie is fair enough with such a weapon.

[Zombology 29]

.22LR is for hunting rabbits, which is probably it's intended use.

[agouti 105]

The .22lr round enters the skull, but doesn't come out the other side, instead it bounces, BOUNCES around in the head doing god knows what to the brain.

 

Small bullet + small charge = relatively low force, meaning body-shots won't slow a man, but when it hits a vital organ or artery it will kill them, otherwise it's a only matter of causing enough trauma and/or bleeding to kill them.

 

Edit: Here's a video on the the penetration of the .22LR:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUM1r_444CY&list=TLevH9ISyVARdsWTlK-KoDB45y6j1MlCfG

 

 

The .22lr will not bounce around inside a skull. This is a much said urban legend. Please learn to separate fantasy from reality. However, a .22lr to the head may or may not kill you. You see, mammals don't really need much of their forebrain to survive. But leaking enough cerebrospinal fluid can eventually kill you. Case in point: phineas gauge is the prime example of this. For an instant kill to the head, you either need to mess up the forebrain enough so that the person can no longer move or think, and then they'll just bleed out csf, or hit the brainstem which controls breathing. A .22lr to the heart or brainstem should be lethal, more or less.

 

Also, and unrelated to your post, a 5.56 and other rifle rounds of sufficient speed can become unstable in tissue, and the 5.56 has a tendency to fragment as the cannelure. This results in the 5.56 round essentially exploding in the tissue creating a much large wound.

Edited March 8, 2014 by agouti

[gomeowmeow 45]

Funny thing is ... .22LR is almost the exact same CALIBER as a 5.56 (.2188) just a huge difference in the bullet mass, as long as the distance isn't ridiculous a headshot from a .22lr should be expected to be lethal I would imagine.

 

**another thing about body damage tho is with the low amount of shock that the .22lr round actually does create a person could theoretically soak up quite a few in the body granting no major organs or arteries were hit.

yea they are the same caliber 20cal but the 223/556 has much more powder behind it pushing a 55 grain bullet at around 3000fps while the .22lr fires a 45 grain bullet at around 1500 if you get hyper velocity ammo.

[SaveMeJebus 164]

Yes I realize this I was in no way saying that the .22lr should be as powerful as a 556 or 223 ..  i was simply saying the actualy CALIBER of those 2 rounds is near identical, that is all. As for k9alex, go look up the definition of caliber.

 

the .223 and 5.56 are the same freakin round to me .. I realize the headspacing is different and you can potentially blow up a rifle chambered stictly for .223 by feeding it a 5.56 but both get fed thru my ARs and act near the same

Edited March 9, 2014 by SaveMeJebus

[darksteeljorge 96]

I do think they need to tweak it, a headshot with a .22 LR should be deadly (someone said up to at least 300m), now yeah center mass shots on the other hand are a different story.  Also the .22 LR is not the smallest caliber (I believe there are .17 cal rounds/guns out there, equivalent to your standard BB gun BB in size, and there are even SHORTER .22 rounds).  The 5.56/.223 round is only slightly larger caliber wise than the .22, but as said it's the amount of gunpowder behind it (9mm is the roughly the same diameter as a .357, but the .357 is usually used to describe a magnum load) and there are .22 Magnums out there as well.

There is 22lr, 22magnum, 22 hornet, and 223 I think those are the variants of 22

[darksteeljorge 96]

It should be like having someone drive a small nail into you.

Where as 5.56 would be someone driving a small nail through you harder and it going right through you as well.

It's hard to say how much killing power leg, arm and lower torso shots should have because they don't have much more effect than hurting, bleeding and shock.

7.62 are a bit easier with legs and arms because they can blow holes big enough to always cause bleeding from an artery.

Oh yes :) http://www.healthline.com/health/gastrointestinal-perforation#Overview

Thanks for the video. I know 22lr is not compared to 7.62 but I bet you if you get shot at the arm if it touch your bone is going to brake it, if you are lucky and it doesnt its go to pass throught your arm and hurt you as hell. My dad was a cop he was shot in the leg, he says a gunshot burns and hurts at the same time