msy 11 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Yeah I can. My own stupidity, suicide, invisible zombie ghosts, and stupidity + zombies. I avoid players like the plague.So the surviver simulator changes to the hide-and-seek game, that's why DEAN HALL said it is a fundamentally flawed game,right? Edited March 2, 2014 by msy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiderdude20 32 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) So the surviver simulator changes to the hide-and-seek game, that's why DEAN HALL said it is a fundamentally flawed game,right?Wouldn't you consider every military shooter a hide and seek game? You hide behind cover, and seek baddies to kill, and what does have to do with being killed by zombies, bugs, and inexperience? Edited March 2, 2014 by Spiderdude20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janol 65 Posted March 2, 2014 So the surviver simulator changes to the hide-and-seek game, that's why DEAN HALL said it is a fundamentally flawed game,right? Yeah, a kill cam will help with that? :) ... Ok, sure then its OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msy 11 Posted March 2, 2014 Yeah, a kill cam will help with that? :) ... Ok, sure then its OK.Only a killcam is not enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janol 65 Posted March 2, 2014 Only a killcam is not enough Ah, we do need more of the same sort? Lovely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antonioajc 500 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ahh, man, are you for real? Congratulations, you made me lose my sides! Edited March 2, 2014 by AntonioAJC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oregonized 673 Posted March 2, 2014 I prefer no kill cam because I like not knowing who shot me or where it came from. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msy 11 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Ah, we do need more of the same sort? Lovely.What a survival game should like? As human beings, we should remake a human society as the basic goal then the stable society, finally the revival from apocalypse. Without society human being are one kind of animals. For now in the game you are an animal to seek and eat, to hide and die.If the game has no ability to reduce killing each-other, why not adding a killcam to help killing each-other? Edited March 2, 2014 by msy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinD (DayZ) 86 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Lets not all resort to calling the OP nasty things or insinuating he is stupid, lets instead point out the many reasons why killcams have no place in DayZ. For me one reason would be the use of KC to give other players (squad mates) the position of my killer. Edited March 2, 2014 by MartinD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crooked Hauser 258 Posted March 2, 2014 The only variation where this works is a simple text notification... You were shot. You fell to your death. You were eaten. You masterbated to death (Shift-F7, I think). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antonioajc 500 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Without society human being are one kind of animals. For now in the game you are an animal to seek and eat, to hide and die.If the game has no ability to reduce killing each-other, why not adding a killcam to help killing each-other? Oh, god, I'm still laughing at this! XDThat's basically nature. The kill cam can easily be exploited. Oh, there's a sniper pinning you down and you have no idea where he is shooting from? No worries, your friend that's a fresh spawn can get killed and the now absurd kill cam will reveal his position! Oh the joy! After receiving all of the information by using third party software for communications, you hunt down the sniper and kill him. And you think to yourself, THAT WAS NOT FUN AT ALL. Edited March 2, 2014 by AntonioAJC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janol 65 Posted March 2, 2014 What a survival game should like? As human beings, we should remake a human society as the basic goal then the stable society, finally the revival from apocalypse. Without society human being are one kind of animals. For now in the game you are an animal to seek and eat, to hide and die. Rebuilding the society one kill cam at a time? OK, good news is that you've discovered the basic requirement for civilzation. Too bad, we don't have kill cam in the real world! What a mess it will become when the zed-apocalypse finally begins! It will be just like in all those awful games without kill cams... No, wait... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarascon 50 Posted March 2, 2014 Servers should also have the option to turn off PVP so that players can't take damage from other players. How would that work in a mixed population server? There are one or two servers available that are PvE. Probably private, I don't recall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrecklessMEDIC 129 Posted March 2, 2014 I think it would be a nice feature. I would definitely use it if I could. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cuwe 66 Posted March 2, 2014 Maybe not everyone mine why and how he/she is dead, but for me or others like me, I suggest DAYZ add death playback/ killcam function which can be optional in the server difficulty setting for the reason below:1. Due to ALPHA stage, both anty-cheater system and program stability are not good, many people are confused to judge what causes his/her death. With the playback you can see the trueth.2. For someone who insist reality, this function can be disabled in the server setting.3. It is a game, not a real life. Since someone likes to kill for fun, and someone more likes a cooperation, with the playback, it might give the killer more pressure if he wants to be camper.4. If there is a 3rd person's view, why not adding a playback? In my opinion, the former is a cheating way at some condition. Sorry... this is a horrible idea (IMO). If you don't want to get killed, play more tactically. As many others have mentioned, this isn't CoD or BF.. With the respawn method in DayZ, seeing a kill cam is useless, no one is going to kill you, and sit and wait the 1 hour you need to run to get back to where you were and be waiting in the same spot, rendering a kill cam useless. If you are in a group and someone gets killed, take cover, use your eyes, locate the shooter and use tactics to counter him. The things DayZ doesn't have (stats, kill cams, nade spamming, etc..) is what makes it so much more exciting to play. You have to value your life in DayZ, you don't spawn with an RPG, 15 nades, 230 rounds of ammo and a LMG.. you have to work for what you have and then work to keep it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antonioajc 500 Posted March 2, 2014 You should have posted on the suggestion sub-forum, that way this would have been shot down and buried, never to be seen again... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicko2580 398 Posted March 2, 2014 Lets not all resort to calling the OP nasty things or insinuating he is stupid, lets instead point out the many reasons why killcams have no place in DayZ. For me one reason would be the use of KC to give other players (squad mates) the position of my killer.Aww but it's not often that something so monumentally stupid appears that I feel obliged to break my usual code of being reasonable and nice to everyone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janol 65 Posted March 2, 2014 You should have posted on the suggestion sub-forum, that way this would have been shot down and buried, never to be seen again... But now this will live on indefinitely, and finally one day before not too long, Rocket will see it. Then sure he shall see the error of killcamless ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janol 65 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) That's your first post on this forum? How does it even relate to the OP? :huh: Well, to put it this way, it is still a remarkable improvement over OP. So maybe we should talk about that for a while Edited March 2, 2014 by janol 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana_Duck 121 Posted March 2, 2014 I feel this needs repeating: agreed, op sounds like he's 12 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarascon 50 Posted March 2, 2014 Well, to put it this way, it is still a remarkable improvement over OP. So maybe we should talk about that for a while I snorted and spilled tea over my slippers and pajamas. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrecklessMEDIC 129 Posted March 2, 2014 Sorry... this is a horrible idea (IMO). If you don't want to get killed, play more tactically. As many others have mentioned, this isn't CoD or BF.. With the respawn method in DayZ, seeing a kill cam is useless, no one is going to kill you, and sit and wait the 1 hour you need to run to get back to where you were and be waiting in the same spot, rendering a kill cam useless. If you are in a group and someone gets killed, take cover, use your eyes, locate the shooter and use tactics to counter him. The things DayZ doesn't have (stats, kill cams, nade spamming, etc..) is what makes it so much more exciting to play. You have to value your life in DayZ, you don't spawn with an RPG, 15 nades, 230 rounds of ammo and a LMG.. you have to work for what you have and then work to keep it.I don't think it would at all be feasible to use a kill cam as part of some revenge tactic. But I do see it's use as a learning tool. Seeing how you died will naturally help you to play better. Maybe you won't go running into that grocery store so quickly next time, maybe you'll spend a little more time scouting a village, etc.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicko2580 398 Posted March 2, 2014 I don't think it would at all be feasible to use a kill cam as part of some revenge tactic. But I do see it's use as a learning tool.Seeing how you died will naturally help you to play better. Maybe you won't go running into that grocery store so quickly next time, maybe you'll spend a little more time scouting a village, etc....Or, you know... I could just tell my mates exactly where you shot me from and they could hunt you down like a dog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted March 2, 2014 Moved to Suggestions.-- Lets not all resort to calling the OP nasty things or insinuating he is stupid, lets instead point out the many reasons why killcams have no place in DayZ. MartinD has the right idea. Stop posting pictures.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidcactus 719 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Maybe not everyone mine why and how he/she is dead, but for me or others like me, I suggest DAYZ add death playback/ killcam function which can be optional in the server difficulty setting for the reason below:1. Due to ALPHA stage, both anty-cheater system and program stability are not good, many people are confused to judge what causes his/her death. With the playback you can see the trueth.2. For someone who insist reality, this function can be disabled in the server setting.3. It is a game, not a real life. Since someone likes to kill for fun, and someone more likes a cooperation, with the playback, it might give the killer more pressure if he wants to be camper.4. If there is a 3rd person's view, why not adding a playback? In my opinion, the former is a cheating way at some condition.-------What a survival game should like? As human beings, we should remake a human society as the basic goal then the stable society, finally the revival from apocalypse. Without society human being are one kind of animals. For now in the game you are an animal to seek and eat, to hide and die.If the game has no ability to reduce killing each-other, why not adding a killcam to help killing each-other? Hello, you must be new here and WELCOME ABOARD :D.. we cant have dayz end up like alot of other games, giving you poofy clues to what happen if you died. If you died you died cause you made a shit mistake and thats no ones problem but your own so you shouldnt be rewarded with a kill cam So many peeps want shit ideas in dayz that are from so many average games.. can any ma dayz brothers and sisters gimme a hell no for how bad a kill cam would be for immersion ?!?! FARK THAT ! ^_^ Edited March 2, 2014 by liquidcactus 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites