Admins Shutting Servers Down When They Get Killed

[Solopopo 330]

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/55657-start-here-a-beginners-guide-to-dayz-servers-and-administration/

"There are, however, ways of combating hackers without breaking the rules Shut the server down IMMEDIATELY - This will most likely end up in a Hive rollback and any users who died will most likely get their gear back. THIS IS NOT FOOLPROOF. IT DOES NOT WORK ALL THE TIME."

 

Anyone else notice this happening? There have been several times that I've killed the only person in an empty server and the server shuts down right after he dies. I've also attacked geared groups of people and had the server shut down on me before I get to loot them. I realize that it could be a coincidence sometimes, but I kill more players than the average survivor, and I've experienced this many times.

 

Edit: This is confirmed, which should be no surprise because the link posted explicitly describes the ability of admins to shut down servers, which prompts character roll backs. 

 

Edit, edit: Stumbling upon the only other player in a server is a fairly common occurrence if you are logging into high traffic areas. People seem to be getting hung up by this. 

 

Edit, edit edit: This happens to me frequently, because I am always going after the biggest fish. I'm always searching for the biggest, baddest, group and trying to kill them. I like to prevail through disadvantage. It's how I prefer to play. Sometimes I'm successful, sometimes I'm not, but I've taken out the admin enough times to experience server resets quite a few times. I probably experience this a bit more often than most, because of my play style. The admin is usually accompanying the biggest group in a server. Players would be surprised how often admins are rolling back their deaths, even on high populated servers, especially if their death was embarrassing, i.e., him and his geared group just got axe murdered. It goes right under many player's noses, because it only negatively impacts the person that actually killed the admin; everyone else just gets a free roll back. 

 

Do NOT contribute to any argument in this thread pertaining to whether or not admins are capable of rolling back the hive. Please acknowledge the facts before posting. It is a redundant argument, and a waste of all of our time. This "argument" was put to rest with the very first sentence I posted. Read it for Christ's sake. 

Edited February 26, 2014 by Solopopo

[Esolu 320]

Loopholes. The masses always find them.

[Irish. 4886]

Several times you've killed the only other person on the server? I stopped there. 

[Chauz 166]

Ofcourse this happens to other people aswell there should be some threads about it..

[kichilron 8550]

Anyone else notice this happening? There have been several times that I've killed the only person in an empty server and the server shuts down right after he dies. I've also attacked geared groups of people and had the server shut down on me before I get to loot them. I realize that it could be a coincidence sometimes, but I kill more players than the average survivor, and I've experienced this many times.

 

 

Why don't you start recording your gameplay and possibly report it when it happens next time?

[Solopopo 330]

Several times you've killed the only other person on the server? I stopped there. 

Why would you stop right there? That doesn't make any sense. I literally just killed the only other player on the server I was on, which prompted this post. 

[Solopopo 330]

Why don't you start recording your gameplay and possibly report it when it happens next time?

My hardware isn't good enough for that. No need either. It's confirmed. 

Edited February 23, 2014 by Solopopo

[Irish. 4886]

Why would you stop right there? That doesn't make any sense. I literally just killed the only other player on the server I was on, which prompted this post. 

 

Why I stopped there is what your stating is, you

A. usually play on 2-3 man servers and

B. proceed to kill the players on that server to some success.

 

Being such a large map, I am forced to assume you must do this quite often. So I stopped there.

 

Its not like you have that much to complain about. Try NOT doing the same thing in 2 man servers and I am pretty sure you wont get the same results. 

[Solopopo 330]

Why I stopped there is what your stating is, you

A. usually play on 2-3 man servers and

B. proceed to kill the players on that server to some success.

 

Being such a large map, I am forced to assume you must do this quite often. So I stopped there.

 

Its not like you have that much to complain about. Try NOT doing the same thing in 2 man servers and I am pretty sure you wont get the same results. 

I'm server hopping when I run into the only other players on servers. It happens all the time. Once I'm geared I go on a rampage on high populated servers. Rinse and repeat on death. I'm not claiming to be some master PvPer you childish fool. Use your brain before you post. I'm posting this for your benefit. 

Edited February 23, 2014 by Solopopo

[Irish. 4886]

And then he gets all upset.. Im a childish fool? Really.. thats rich. 

 

Just because I can't take you seriously, based on the complaint you're making and your way of playing, does not mean you have the right to actually act like a child.

 

Try actually taking my advice and don't do what you've been doing, i.e. killing the only other guy on the server.

 

Or you can continue your campaign against allowing people who paid for a server to not have the right to restart it. 

[Solopopo 330]

And then he gets all upset.. Im a childish fool? Really.. thats rich. 

 

Just because I can't take you seriously, based on the complaint you're making and your way of playing, does not mean you have the right to actually act like a child.

 

Try actually taking my advice and don't do what you've been doing, i.e. killing the only other guy on the server.

 

Or you can continue your campaign against allowing people who paid for a server to not have the right to restart it. 

Yes, you are. I'm sick of being greeted by people like you on this forum with unwarranted hostility when I come here and contribute with the best intentions. I'm not campaigning for anything. That is how you would interpret it because you are a fool, which is a fact based on your conduct, not an insult spurred by some childish desire to retaliate. Any response you could have would be just that. So don't even bother. Stop posting garbage.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Solopopo

[Irish. 4886]

Yes, you are. I'm sick of being greeted by people like you on this forum with unwarranted hostility:

Me: Its not like you have that much to complain about. Try NOT doing the same thing in 2 man servers and I am pretty sure you wont get the same results. 

You: I'm not claiming to be some master PvPer you childish fool. Use your brain before you post. 

 

[Johnny Depth 167]

The easiest way to combat this is to figure out where the admin of the server lives, then put him down in real life. :)

[Solopopo 330]

Just the kind of post I expected, which is the kind of thing that bothers me about this forum. It's become a place people come to antagonize arguments. You can put the popcorn away. I have no beef with you. After re-reading your post I realize I jumped the gun a little bit. Survivor stress has taken it's toll on me. That's what I get for reading half assed. 

Edited February 23, 2014 by Solopopo

[SEC9 VANDEL 51]

Report the server to the GSP. they should be able to fix that problem

[Irish. 4886]

Look, I was trying to help you because you do not seem to get the reality of your special situation. Ill leave you with this..

 

The link you yourself provided for server admins has this to say at the top:

 

What you should know before purchasing a server

• Hosting a server will get you no in-game reward or advantage. You're just another sucker like the rest of us. People are going to think that you have all of these wonder scripts that you can do to restore gear, stop hackers, etc. NOPE.
• You will get a lot of flak from the community, whether you're deserving of it or not. (OMG SERVER ADMIN ABUSE)

 

Thats right. The second line states you will get grief. Its a known issue by the admins and server owners that people will complain about abuse. So when you go into a server that is empty, save you and the admin and he gets killed.. now mind you he has been instructed to watch for hackers and told to restart as a best option.. what do you think he is left to presume? That you just happened to find him? I sure would be skeptical if it was me.

 

Now if say you get your way in the end, then a server admin has no recourse to combat server hackers and must wait it out for a natural restart. Because when there are only 2 people in a 15 sq. km map, and one kills the other it feels a little off. But if the poor guy restarts and then gets his server admin status pulled with no refund how do you think he feels? Now if you complained about servers restarting when the admin gets killed, in normally populated servers then you have a genuine complaint for abuse and that SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO. But what you're doing is making yourself look suspect by killing the only guy in game with you, and you do it enough it seems to be a personal problem. That is why I felt the best advice would be to let it go as an issue, and just adapt your way of playing. Apparently that was out of line for me to do. So good luck with getting this looked into, and finding out if its a serious issue that everyone else is seeing. Because I guess its a trade off of badmin rollback abuse, and combatting hackers. I will continue to enjoy my delicious popcorn that you helped provide me with.. thank you sir.

 

Good night, and good luck :)

[Solopopo 330]

Look, I was trying to help you because you do not seem to get the reality of your special situation. Ill leave you with this..

 

The link you yourself provided for server admins has this to say at the top:

 

What you should know before purchasing a server

• Hosting a server will get you no in-game reward or advantage. You're just another sucker like the rest of us. People are going to think that you have all of these wonder scripts that you can do to restore gear, stop hackers, etc. NOPE.
• You will get a lot of flak from the community, whether you're deserving of it or not. (OMG SERVER ADMIN ABUSE)

 

Thats right. The second line states you will get grief. Its a known issue by the admins and server owners that people will complain about abuse. So when you go into a server that is empty, save you and the admin and he gets killed.. now mind you he has been instructed to watch for hackers and told to restart as a best option.. what do you think he is left to presume? That you just happened to find him? I sure would be skeptical if it was me.

 

Now if say you get your way in the end, then a server admin has no recourse to combat server hackers and must wait it out for a natural restart. Because when there are only 2 people in a 15 sq. km map, and one kills the other it feels a little off. But if the poor guy restarts and then gets his server admin status pulled with no refund how do you think he feels? Now if you complained about servers restarting when the admin gets killed, in normally populated servers then you have a genuine complaint for abuse and that SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO. But what you're doing is making yourself look suspect by killing the only guy in game with you, and you do it enough it seems to be a personal problem. That is why I felt the best advice would be to let it go as an issue, and just adapt your way of playing. Apparently that was out of line for me to do. So good luck with getting this looked into, and finding out if its a serious issue that everyone else is seeing. Because I guess its a trade off of badmin rollback abuse, and combatting hackers. I will continue to enjoy my delicious popcorn that you helped provide me with.. thank you sir.

 

Good night, and good luck :)

Ah, well then again, that's what I get for reading half-assed. I've been playing and using the forums at the same time. If by "special situation" you are talking about the particular instance the server was reset on me, it isn't really that special. It happens quite a bit. But I can live with it if it's an acknowledged occurance. I shall kill again. Best of luck to you as well. 

Edited February 23, 2014 by Solopopo

[Rick1633 136]

You guys think Dean gave a shit about this game when it was decided servers would only be provided by the public?  And after 30 million dollars in revenue hacking is still not addressed........ But you actually want to complain that server admits exploit the game?   The people who made this game dont give a shit about us players.

[Sgt.Oddball 71]

Just put a five minute countdown to server reset once the reset button is pushed (or however you reset a server). Problem solved.

[dvsilverwing 241]

Several times you've killed the only other person on the server? I stopped there. 

 

[attackm0de 38]

^{my last death happened this way. and now the server does not exist and my character disappeared too.}

[strongtent 74]

A few weeks back me and my buddy were rolling hard and the admin and his buddies caught me off guard, my friend was further back due to real life shit. Anyways they killed me, then my buddy picked them off one by one at the firehouse and when he was searching their body the server restarted.

Edited March 8, 2014 by Strongtent

[Rick1633 136]

Yeah.   I dont get all the hate for just people that dupelicate items or who server hop......... But there is barely any posts about the annoying admins who restart entire servers when they get killed.  This is 10 times of a worse exploit and abuse than duplicating or server hopping.   Restarting the server fucks everyones game up and literally allows people to cheat death.

[Demoth 366]

You guys think Dean gave a shit about this game when it was decided servers would only be provided by the public? And after 30 million dollars in revenue hacking is still not addressed........ But you actually want to complain that server admits exploit the game? The people who made this game dont give a shit about us players.

Making a giant scale game is sooooo easy with a small team. You should probably just do it for them for free since it's such a simple task.

[weedmasta 784]

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/55657-start-here-a-beginners-guide-to-dayz-servers-and-administration/

"There are, however, ways of combating hackers without breaking the rules Shut the server down IMMEDIATELY - This will most likely end up in a Hive rollback and any users who died will most likely get their gear back. THIS IS NOT FOOLPROOF. IT DOES NOT WORK ALL THE TIME."

 

Anyone else notice this happening? There have been several times that I've killed the only person in an empty server and the server shuts down right after he dies. I've also attacked geared groups of people and had the server shut down on me before I get to loot them. I realize that it could be a coincidence sometimes, but I kill more players than the average survivor, and I've experienced this many times.

 

Edit: This is confirmed, which should be no surprise because the link posted explicitly describes the ability of admins to shut down servers, which prompts character roll backs. 

 

 

Yea clan servers used to do that on Dayz mod as well unfortunately. I haven't come across this in SA though.