Concretely: what differs the pro from the noob?

[yorkmorgan 191]

Go West!

[ld-airgrafix 403]

I would say there is no difference, it's up to the player, and not the game, some people just have a feeling for the game, no matter how much time they have played. I have played dayz for days now and I still freeze when I come across another player. I haven't played much shooting or online games, so that's probably why.

[deebz1234 243]

Pro's are ghosts

Pro's choose their targets wisely

Pro's know the map without needing dayzDB and know where they are at all times

Pro's rarely hang out at the coast

Pro's take the long way round

Pro's know the rarity's of the map

Pro's dont need a second long distance shot (or think they dont haha)

 

realistically the idea here is mature vs immature.

 

plenty of nubs are mature and do their own thing and try to be smart.

but the majority are young people that think these games are force feeding simulators...

Edited February 24, 2014 by deebz1234

[Chucknorris405 83]

What differs between pro and noob? besides playing hours and your ability to learn from mistakes,  i guess its pretty simple.

 

Noob = comes on forums to post about being pro

 

Pro = if they post, its usually helpful stuff

 

 

IN Game = you wont see pro's unless they want you to

[lauda 44]

Today i met a guy on a looted experimental server. I asked if he needs some food. Of course he said yes and i dropped him edible(!!!) red Berries which i have collected. He was convinced that i want to poison him, said "haha good try" and ran away. I guess that is an example of a non-pro. Missing knowledge (stupidity may be to hard) makes it not easier to fight mistrust and play the game it´s meant to be played. One more total flop in acting friendly............

Edited February 25, 2014 by lauda

[Neinsager 30]

Berezino up north, is slightly less dangerous, and if you get a good spawn close by, can be a good spot to get the basics you need.

 

And because most people spawn close to it now *plus* it having to supermarkets and lots of other neat places to pick clean and is close to the shipwreck, it is the new Cherno/Elektro nowadays.

 

On low to mid-populated server, you can expect Cherno and Elektro to be empty, a few people hanging out in inland towns and some on the airfields, but you will *always* find bambis and bandits aplenty in Berezino.

Edited February 25, 2014 by Neinsager

[enforcer1975 1111]

Pro's are ghosts

Pro's choose their targets wisely

Pro's know the map without needing dayzDB and know where they are at all times

Pro's rarely hang out at the coast

Pro's take the long way round

Pro's know the rarity's of the map

Pro's dont need a second long distance shot (or think they dont haha) Pro's don't shoot long distance or shoot at all because they know how to play the game and doing that is considered KoSing.

 

realistically the idea here is mature vs immature.

 

plenty of nubs are mature and do their own thing and try to be smart.

but the majority are young people that think these games are force feeding simulators... It isn't?  :huh:

[Very Ape 748]

People who move deliberately from cover to cover, plotting their course carefully, as opposed to those who sprint in a straight line towards their destination. 

[DemonGroover 8836]

A pro doesn't need a team - he/she is a one man/woman Chuck Norris storm of destruction.

 

Me? I like to hide in bushes and watch.

[Hetstaine 10852]

Patience.

 

That's the big difference.

[Chawktah 43]

Pros don't ask questions... Noobs, well, I think you get the idea :)

[AmmokKDE 8]

Mainly?

Playtime!

 

More details?

Head inlands and leave the coast immediatly.

Get a mate to team up with.

Play, play, play, play.

Don´t trust anyone!

[BigHairyFenian (DayZ) 18]

Go inland as soon as possible. The longer you stay on the coast, the higher the chance of getting KoS'd.

[soulfirez 901]

survival is trivial and easy at this point of the games development, the only real thing that differs anyone is if they know how to press page up and page down to correctly zero a gun..lmao...

 

you will not believe how many fail to do so and end up missing you from close range.

The obvious answer of a noob as anyone knows at short range the zeroing makes little to no difference at all aim center mass at standard 0(which is usually set to 100 m) many of the longer posts are pretty good in the thread.

 

Except the guy saying to try your luck on the edge of electro huh 50/50 what a load crap head inland where ever you spawn head inland you will find plenty of water look for ponds streams etc the food will sort itself out when you get to the first town inland...

 

Any one telling you to follow the coast at all when your not experienced is giving you bad advice 3/4 of the players stay on the coast why because there either noobs or there killing noobs ( the odd helpfull experienced guy but not worth the chance...)

[Sarahbram 47]

Some of the replies in here are really good and some of them are just people jerking their own confidence.

 

Difference between a noob and a pro? Nothing, that's the good part of this game, one might have more experience than the other, oh big whoop, it all comes down to encounters and how they both react, quick deicision making etc, sure a more experienced player is gonna have more confidence in that area, but confidence can also lead to mistakes, lots of them.

 

Anyone calling themselves a "pro" is just jerking himself, if you don't see any area of improvement when you're playing then you're clearly not a "pro" 

 

In my opinion a pro will always try to improve themselves and don't just find a playstyle and stick with it because it works, because eventually as most sane people would discover, a tactic can be effective for a while, until someone finds a way to destroy yours, then you gotta find new ways.

 

I am quite clearly a noob.

[soulfirez 901]

Some of the replies in here are really good and some of them are just people jerking their own confidence.

 

Difference between a noob and a pro? Nothing, that's the good part of this game, one might have more experience than the other, oh big whoop, it all comes down to encounters and how they both react, quick deicision making etc, sure a more experienced player is gonna have more confidence in that area, but confidence can also lead to mistakes, lots of them.

 

Anyone calling themselves a "pro" is just jerking himself, if you don't see any area of improvement when you're playing then you're clearly not a "pro" 

 

In my opinion a pro will always try to improve themselves and don't just find a playstyle and stick with it because it works, because eventually as most sane people would discover, a tactic can be effective for a while, until someone finds a way to destroy yours, then you gotta find new ways.

 

I am quite clearly a noob.

Teach the guy to walk before he can run.. Basics the control of situations will only come with experience way to may possibilities to talk about encounters.

 

Some basic survival so he can gather his gear and learn for himself while he is armed how to try to deal with the encounters...

[mssing 34]

beginner (or perhaps newbe), not noob ..veteran, not "pro" (only noobs think they are pro)... a noob is an idiot, who knows or understands very little and has no will to learn more. it is an derogatory epitome. don't make it into something it isn't ..please...

Edited February 25, 2014 by mssing

[PJSleaze 111]

Some of the replies in here are really good and some of them are just people jerking their own confidence.

Difference between a noob and a pro? Nothing, that's the good part of this game, one might have more experience than the other, oh big whoop, it all comes down to encounters and how they both react, quick deicision making etc, sure a more experienced player is gonna have more confidence in that area, but confidence can also lead to mistakes, lots of them.

Anyone calling themselves a "pro" is just jerking himself, if you don't see any area of improvement when you're playing then you're clearly not a "pro"

In my opinion a pro will always try to improve themselves and don't just find a playstyle and stick with it because it works, because eventually as most sane people would discover, a tactic can be effective for a while, until someone finds a way to destroy yours, then you gotta find new ways.

I am quite clearly a noob.

I think you're missing a key point. Let's say that, using some of the advice in this thread, pro spots noob before noob spots pro 80% of the time. Pro is patient, methodical, in cover, staying alert while noob is blasting zombies from the middle of the road. Now pro has time to decide how to handle this encounter, and is no longer forced into quick decisions, reflexes, etc. that make them equals.

Pro maintains advantage by being able to plan how or even if they want to encounter others. Noob is always one step behind in this situation, surprised and forced into unplanned situations. That's the pro right there. It does not always work, it's not guaranteed, but over time it pays off.

I'm working on this but am not there yet. Getting better all the time though.

[doctorbadsign 645]

Head inland.

 

Don't run across fields or in the middle of roads.

 

Be patient.

 

Think about what you're doing.

 

Maintain situational awareness.

 

Have a plan.

[Geckofrog7 1168]

Pros make 20 minute long youtube videos showing how 1337 they are at pwning n008s. (I.E. shooting people with nothing but the shirts on their backs.) 

Also, pros are always invincible because they are so beast. Any deaths can only be caused by either hacks or lack of game quality.

Pros always stay on the coast, because that's where you find the best prey. (Again, unarmed newspawns.) 

Pros shoot on sight. That's what you're supposed to do in a video game. What n008 scrub would try to make friends in a video game? 

Even worse is the thought of people helping each other out. *Shudder* Can you imagine just sharing your medical supplies to save someone from death? The horror!

 

Also pros sleep with your mom for some reason.

Edited February 25, 2014 by Geckofrog7

[haviv[3rdid] 57]

3, Until you get a strong sense of the map, your routes should follow the roads. It is so easy to get lost. Rather than continuing to guess for an hour while lost in a woods, staying next to road will make sure you always hit that next time you're after. Seems stupid while you're in the zone, in the moment. But have you ever been in the woods, alt-tabbed for a moment, re open game window and realize you have no idea which way you were running before alt-tabbing?

 

You can follow the road but don't be seen on the road. Everyone watches the roads. Be off to the side...hopefully next to the road there are trees or you are behind defilade (such as in a long ditch).

 

Usually the first thing you want to do is find the highest spot possible and walk along the side of it. Don't be on the very top of the hill but be a few meters below the crest.

 

You should always be looking for all possible cover, near and far. The cover that is near you should be potential places to run towards if you are under fire. Cover that is far away from you may be possible places for bad guys to shoot you from. By focusing on cover, you will cut down on the scanning you'll have to do.

Edited February 25, 2014 by Benjamin

[Sarahbram 47]

I think you're missing a key point. Let's say that, using some of the advice in this thread, pro spots noob before noob spots pro 80% of the time. Pro is patient, methodical, in cover, staying alert while noob is blasting zombies from the middle of the road. Now pro has time to decide how to handle this encounter, and is no longer forced into quick decisions, reflexes, etc. that make them equals.

Pro maintains advantage by being able to plan how or even if they want to encounter others. Noob is always one step behind in this situation, surprised and forced into unplanned situations. That's the pro right there. It does not always work, it's not guaranteed, but over time it pays off.

I'm working on this but am not there yet. Getting better all the time though.

 

I love this post because that's exactly how me and my buddy used me as bait once, i was running around the airfield like an idiot while he scanned the bushes and guess what? some idiot was just sitting there, scoping in on me.

 

As previously stated, over-confidence can create a lot of mistakes.

 

I've made lots of mistakes and had an advantageous position and even lost a battle versus some new players, on various occasions, like i said over-confidence will force you to make mistakes at some point.

[PhilB 230]

You can follow the road but don't be seen on the road. Everyone watches the roads. Be off to the side...hopefully next to the road there are trees or you are behind defilade (such as in a long ditch).

 

Usually the first thing you want to do is find the highest spot possible and walk along the side of it. Don't be on the very top of the hill but be a few meters below the crest.

 

You should always be looking for all possible cover, near and far. The cover that is near you should be potential places to run towards if you are under fire. Cover that is far away from you may be possible places for bad guys to shoot you from. By focusing on cover, you will cut down on the scanning you'll have to do.

 

Totally agree. Perfect description of "following a road". 

 

I share the sentiment about seeing but not being seen is really tantamount. I would never say I'm pro. I suck. I get owned all the time. But identifying other players first is top priority of improvement for me and always has been. Vast majority of death for me is an unseen assailant.

Edited February 25, 2014 by PhilB

[maxotaur 135]

These replies people are giving are useful but not exactly correct,

 

A noob can be somebody who rushes an enemy with an axe and gets killed by an M4

 

A noob can be somebody who doesn't know the ship is glitchy

 

A noob is somebody who accidently shoots their friend

 

In true respect, the true example of a pro is somebody who can operate each weapon efficently, knows how to kill zombies and what melee weapon kills in one hit eg the fireaxe, if you are noob, you are probably trying to use a screwdriver or your fists to kill a zombie... never use anything other than an axe as up until the next patch axes are a one hit kill, the splitting axe is normally a 2 hit. Machetes are good at breaking player legs but anything other than that is a fail and shouldn't be used. As for pistols, the pistol can't shoot accurately after 50m so try not to use it after that, the magnum is 100m+. A noob would think that a primary weapon is always needed, false, sidearms are actually sought after more than rifles due to their faster fire rate, common ammo and concealment.  A pro would say that all that is needed is good practice and play, now i'm not preaching here but earlier my 2 pals were shot unconscious by 1 guy in a red roofed barn, what did i have? no ammo for my m4 but had a pistol with no clip, but i remembered u can chamber rounds, so i actually chambered a round into it and shot him through a gap in the stairs in the head, a noob wouldn't know you can do this. The same goes for the M4 and no clip. a noob would also try find gear that looks cool, note that all gear you find will protect you against bullets, some more than others, eg a bike helmet looks bad but protects more than a beret, if a player wears a beret it's because they are either cocky enough that they wont get shot, or that they want to look as thin as possible when prone, that is a pro sense, a pro sense isn't just wearing a beret for the look, that is a noob sense.  same as not taking the bulky mountain backpacks and instead creating your own because they are small and green, that is a pro sense, deploying your bipod in a firefight is a pro sense, given that you know you are safe, there are many things you can do that are noob but that doesn't mean you are inexperienced, you can misjudge a shot by 50m or accidently fall off ledges.

 

The main thing that draws the line between pro and noob, is what you do when you spawn

 

 

-Spawn on Beach-Quick Glance around-Know where you are-Run to a destination, not a random direction- Find a familiar high loot building- Are the doors open? Is it worth checking anyway?- Ignore Closed door cabins, No loot spawns- Learn what items look like so you can peer your eyes in and spot things such as sticks and burlap sacks, create your own backpack.-Find a river or pond and drink from it, try and get some food in houses you know have loot, such as green 2 story piano buildings- Find a military base or airfield, are the gates and doors open? If they are, stick around for a while and take your time, if you are a fresh spawn, the best thing to do is do it quick and clean, run into the barracks and glance, in and out, if you have gear you should take your time, due to the fact that being shot on sight is a higher mentality for a player with a backpack and some moderately nice clothing. -Spot an armed player, Run.-Getting shot at? Put weapon away and run zig zag.

 

 

the list goes on and on.

[Wernsley (DayZ) 8]

Currently my character has been alive for about 5 to 6 weeks with over 250 hours under my belt and I do frequent high traffic areas and dangerous glitch spots, but i wouldn't call myself a pro though.

 

I guess the trick is to see other people first and dont provoke a fight unless engaged by the opposing party, keep to cover at all times, know your surroundings and dont go looking for trouble: if you dont need to be in ELektro or Cherno or any of the airfields, dont go there.

Also when your about to enter a town , first check the spots you would go to to check a town from a distance as other people might be having the same idea as you and are currently checking the town for movement.

Example: On monday i was in/near Elektro and my buddies where near/in Dolina, so i went to them only to come to the town of mishta (directly south of Dolina, i saw movement about 500 mtrs away and immediatly took cover: the guy running , ran into the woods , stopped at the treeline and turned around to watch the town, not checking left or right from him , but just the town.

I could have shot him without him ever seeing me, BUT i didn't for a couple of reasons: why was he checking the town? was there somebody else around he was giving overwatch for? Did he get shot and is he now looking for his attacker?Do i need any of his stuff?

Normally when i leave a town i dont go and watch it for 10 minutes: i take the way with the most cover, turn around once to do one small check and then disappear into the woods, he ran straight through open field to the treeline.

 

Hide/take cover above the tree line, the tree line is what people check first

 

Gasmasks make you stand out like a sore thumb.

 

Get iether the courier bag or the improvised backpack, i have been using it since stable and even with food with me i have enough room for all the other stuff.

 

You dont need several hundred bullets: i have seen people carrying around allmost a 1000 5.56 only to be killed with 1 shot of my mosin in a medium range fight which they instigated.

If your using a mosin , take both a pu and LRS along: PU for close and medium range engagements and the LRS for Medium plus to Longe range engagements.

 

If you 1st spawn, dont head inland directly...everybody else is allready doing that

Get a compass.

Get a sewing kit to repair damaged clothing that you might find and like, finding another might take sme time

 

Oh and 1 more thing:

 

Lean

Edited February 26, 2014 by Wernsley