infiltrator 275 Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) So for those that don't know the SKS variant in this game is not the stock one.. it's a Yugoslav variation with the specific spigot muzzle formed to hold and launch a grenade. Here's an image of the original Russian SKS: Here's the Yugoslav variation: And here's the in game rifle: Furthermore, the dayz art dev confirmed it's indeed a yugoslav variant so we can be sure that it wasn't put in randomly: https://twitter.com/ctorchia/status/425731511661248513 So, once they implement grenades, we can expect the SKS to lob them around? :D Edited February 14, 2014 by Infiltrator 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IkaikaKekai 1957 Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Rifle Grenades are pretty damn rare nowadays. This one looks like it took special grenades and used blanks to fire, so it wasn't just like you could hang any grenade in front and pull the trigger.EDITFound this relevant. And the guy made the dummy he was using. Edited February 15, 2014 by BigMike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louist 163 Posted February 15, 2014 Rifle Grenades are pretty damn rare nowadays. This one looks like it took special grenades and used blanks to fire, so it wasn't just like you could hang any grenade in front and pull the trigger.I would watch that video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) I would expect this kind of attachment on the M4A1 before seeing it on the SKS to be honest. Edited February 15, 2014 by Deathlove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infiltrator 275 Posted February 15, 2014 Rifle Grenades are pretty damn rare nowadays. This one looks like it took special grenades and used blanks to fire, so it wasn't just like you could hang any grenade in front and pull the trigger. Of course, but the question is why would they specifically go for the yugoslav design if they did not plan on utilizing it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyT 554 Posted February 15, 2014 I thought it was just a muzzle break. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oregonized 673 Posted February 15, 2014 It makes WAY more sense to have the attachment for the M4 than any other gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IkaikaKekai 1957 Posted February 15, 2014 Of course, but the question is why would they specifically go for the yugoslav design if they did not plan on utilizing it?They might have just had a real Yugo model laying around the workshop to model instead of a 'True' Russian SKS or even a Chinese Type 56 copy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infiltrator 275 Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) It makes WAY more sense to have the attachment for the M4 than any other gun. M4 has loads of attachments already.. just because you've just found this out doesn't mean what you're familiar with makes more sense. They might have just had a real Yugo model laying around the workshop to model instead of a 'True' Russian SKS or even a Chinese Type 56 copy. Nah, doubt it. The differences are minimal to the point where you didn't need specific models to make either of them reliably (source: I'm a 3d modeler). Edited February 15, 2014 by Infiltrator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oregonized 673 Posted February 15, 2014 M4 has loads of attachments already.. just because you've just found this out doesn't mean what you're familiar with makes more sense.Wrong, buddy. I am very familiar with vintage weapons and their attachments. Nice try at being a badass know-it-all though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirth 23 Posted February 15, 2014 How about no noob-tubes in our DayZ, thank you and have a good day. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IkaikaKekai 1957 Posted February 15, 2014 40mm grenade launchers are more common, and sadly one of the reasons why rifle grenades are considered out of style. I'm not against rifle grenades, in my typical american thinking I thought 'oh shit, old grenades, they probably destroyed em after so many years'. Then I remembered, 'Oh right, Russians stockpile weapons like hoarders stockpile newspapers', "*horrible Russian Accent* Is not old, is okay, give to Ukraine troops and give Russian troops new stuff." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyT 554 Posted February 15, 2014 How about we stop pretending it is a grenade launcher tube and just accept that it is most likely a muzzle break? SKS muzzle breaks are cheap and common. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infiltrator 275 Posted February 15, 2014 Wrong, buddy. I am very familiar with vintage weapons and their attachments. Nice try at being a badass know-it-all though. Well I am a Yugoslav myself so lets not pretend you american know more about weapons I have been familiarized with personally with shall we? But nice try to be a badass know-it-all though "buddy". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oregonized 673 Posted February 15, 2014 Well I am a Yugoslav myself so lets not pretend you american know more about weapons I have been familiarized with personally with shall we? But nice try to be a badass know-it-all though "buddy".Just because you are a "Slav" doesn't mean you know more about the weapons than someone from America. Also, don't try to pretend that the grenades for the SKS is something that is common. Nice try on another failed attempt at being a badass know-it-all, buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infiltrator 275 Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Just because you are a "Slav" doesn't mean you know more about the weapons than someone from America. Also, don't try to pretend that the grenades for the SKS is something that is common. Nice try on another failed attempt at being a badass know-it-all, buddy. Yeah I can totally see your american grandfather told you all about the yugoslav SKS and how he used it ;) Picketino :D Edited February 15, 2014 by Infiltrator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchi (DayZ) 146 Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) How about we stop pretending it is a grenade launcher tube and just accept that it is most likely a muzzle break? SKS muzzle breaks are cheap and common.Nah it is the yugo model with the shittacular gas system, meaning it should be far less reliable than a typical Chicom or Rusky SKS. Funny that I never bothered to check before I saw this thread. Placed mine on the ground and looked it over I am now ditching it for an M4. Edited February 15, 2014 by Franchi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oregonized 673 Posted February 15, 2014 My bad, I guess your american grandfather told you all about the yugoslav SKS and how he used it ;)No, there are these things called hobbies. I love firearms and have done a lot of research on the history of firearms from around the world. I have a pretty large collection now that was originally started by my grandfather and continues to grow. Also, the Yugoslavian SKS is not the only one that can shoot grenades. So tell me again how you can just run down to the local gun shop and buy grenades for your Yugoslavian SKS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Gews- 7443 Posted February 15, 2014 How about we stop pretending it is a grenade launcher tube and just accept that it is most likely a muzzle break? SKS muzzle breaks are cheap and common. It was a 22mm NATO-spec rifle grenade launcher, that's why there's a huge ladder sight for grenades on top of the barrel... Notice I said "was". Look at the model - it has multiple holes drilled into the muzzle device. It will no longer work with rifle grenades. The Yugos either had one row of holes at the top, or no holes at all... holes all the way down means it has been turned into a muzzle brake like this one: 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infiltrator 275 Posted February 15, 2014 Good research, but the in game model still has the GL sight as far as I can see.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazykage 1063 Posted February 15, 2014 Frankly, I don't want to see any kind of LAUNCHED grenade in dayz. It would detract from the overall feel of the game: gritty, desperate, run down. Having them in would, IMO, make it feel less logical. Yep. got a bunch of zombies over there. ill just use one of the 10 forty mikes I found under some dead soldier's bunk and *POOK! BOOM! Makes things feel to casual. Grenades, IMO should be limited to improvised devices, OR very rare milspec fragmentation devices. And I mean VERY rare. Lastly, I think many of you may not realize just how much random chance is involved when it comes to the effectiveness of grenades. Your typical M67 frag nade only has an effective kill radius of about 5 meters. That's not very far. Outside of that, a victim may very well find himself relatively unharmed, other than blasted out ears. They are not a reliable KILL device in open areas. Inside buildings, however, is another matter entirely. But yeah, I REEEEEAAAAAALLLY hope I NEVER see a yellow horse pill in game (40mm HEDP). I just think they don't belong. My opinion. Im entitled to it. As to the sks, that may have been their intent. Or maybe they just thought it looked cool. Who knows? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyT 554 Posted February 15, 2014 So really... muzzle break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchi (DayZ) 146 Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) It was a 22mm NATO-spec rifle grenade launcher, that's why there's a huge ladder sight for grenades on top of the barrel...Notice I said "was".Look at the model - it has multiple holes drilled into the muzzle device.It will no longer work with rifle grenades. The Yugos either had one row of holes at the top, or no holes at all... holes all the way down means it has been turned into a muzzle brake like this one:No holes on mine.I think what you are seeing there are over enhanced pixels, either that or someone is really bad at designing/building/modeling muzzle breaks, holes there would do absolutely nothing to reduce muzzle climb in fact if that SKS is level they would increase muzzle climb not to mention kick dirt up when shot prone. Indeed the picture of a muzzle break you posted appears to feature two lines of vertical holes milled such that they connect to different sides of the bore that is a good design, unlike many brakes sold today and attached to rifles worth far more than an SKS. Edited February 15, 2014 by Franchi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyT 554 Posted February 15, 2014 One of my AK muzzle breaks has side vents. I think the intent is flash suppression. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites