Least Bandity Apparel?

[Whyherro123 2283]

IRL, I wear surplus BDU's in the woods for many reasons

 

1) They keep me out of sight. Not being able to hide when you have to means you are a much "bigger" target.  The human eye is naturally attracted to both contrasting color and patterns.  BDUc cover both. When I want to be seen, I take off the jacket, or put on one of the multiple bandanas I carry. 

2) Metric fuckton of pockets. I can carry roughly 3 days worth of supplies in the pockets of my BDU jacket and pants. A weeks worth if I include the MOLLE pouches on my belt. Ease of logistics = better

3) Tough. Getting my BDU's from an aftermarket company, they are made from a very tough fabric, resistant to ripping, and actually, rather warm and water-resistant, so long as I don't go swimming. 


In a situation like Day Z, I am assuming that the same rationale would apply. Don't judge all of us camo bush-wookies by the actions of the Balota Ass-Bandits!

[Hrki 94]

No pants guys/girls are always trust worthy. 

 

i wear no pants and a gun would you trust me if i point my gun in your nose and say i am friendly :D

[soulfirez 901]

It can definitely be both, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Given that it is very hard to tell if someone you shot is a bandit, this system definitely combines perception of intent as well as justification for your own actions.

 

Absolutely the TTSKO jacket is superior to some of the more civilian clothing, but the fact that many bandits have good gear thanks to killing other players has led players to associate the 'high level' clothing options with hostility. This is obviously not always the case, but it seems to have happened often enough in the collective experience of DayZ players that an association has been made, regardless of whether it's right. I mean literally the only way to stop this kind of almost supersitious type behaviour is if the devs added an actual system where you could have some way of identifying the 'karma' of an individual.

 

Thanks to that mindset, I'm wearing a browny orange 3 slot puffy jacket right now, so I guess we all make sacrifices. ;)

AH yes make sacrifice to seem less hostile because in this and other threads they point out you carry a gun your a threat/bandit or have a fire axe in hands you an axe maniac (forgetting its best way to save ammo and kill zeds before looting) so do you have or carry these items??? If so expect to be KOSed by guys calling you a bandit axe maniac... If you dont carry these items expect to be KOSed by well actual bandits.

 

People need to do 1 of 2 things either learn to find out who or what a bandit is ( cause alot of the guys saying there heroes are actually bandits when you look at what they do) or stop complaining about KOS. I know which id prefer i know which might lead to some interesting interactions.. But thats just me we all choose our own path...

[r3volution (DayZ) 19]

SoulFirez I do see your point, it's just that this thread was originally about clothing so I was more focussing on responding to the OP's original tangent. However you're correct, there will be people who will (arbitrarily or not) determine that based on the fact that I carry an SKS and a Fire Axe, I must be a psychopath.

 

In this case, while I do carry gun/melee weapon to survive the zombies (I might be a pacifist in this game but I'm not suicidal or that interested in playing 'running man') I don't NEED to wear camo clothing. The non-camo cargo pants do carry the same amount as the camo variants, and while the Puffy jacket is more restrictive, there are other civilian clothing options that offer more slots. So I would tend to argue that the clothing choice represents a bit more of the player's mindset and intent than whether or not they carry a weapon at all as a binary choice.

 

However, in terms of the type of weapon being judged to determine intent, I see the fire axe/splitting axe to be a bit of an arbitrary distinction (personally, I mean come on, its a fucking axe). Whether it's a shovel, an axe of any description or a crowbar, I will always be a bit cautious around someone wielding a melee weapon (like the old joke about the guy in the Camry, never fuck with someone who has less to lose than you do).

 

Vis a vis firearms, it does seem like people factor someone's choice of firearm into the overall assessment of their appearance and fairly so. I'd be more cautious of someone with a big scope on their moisin/sks or someone with a fully kitted out M4 than I would be of a guy with a shotgun. BUT that would also be cross referenced against their clothing with their clothing being given more weight in decision making (and this seems to be the case with most people's view). E.g Guy with full camo and a payday mask with a shotgun would ring more alarm bells than a guy in loud civvies with no mask and a moisin with a scope.

 

I can't avoid being KOS'ed by the gun happy little psychopaths, but they will always KOS anyone regardless so there's no point factoring their opinion in (no seriously). I can however try and kit myself out so that hopefully those who play more like myself will be less likely to shoot me without saying hello first. It's an incredibly flawed system, as I and many others have said repeatedly, but it's the only system there is currently to respond to the KOStards, so if you're going to resent anyone for this system, resent the KOSers.

Edited February 12, 2014 by r3volution

[MrNobody82 26]

i´m wearing camo clothes, because they have the most item slots of all clothes. without tents, hideouts or other places to save your loot you need every item slot you can get. as soon there are tents in the game i will change the clothes to a civilian look. there is NO ultimativ look for bandits or heroes, thats´s why i like the sa. you never know if the stranger a hero or a bandit.

[Martmital 436]

People require lots of space?  What junk you carrying around with you, I can get by with a puffer jacket and burlap backpack...

[xRann 126]

People require lots of space?  What junk you carrying around with you, I can get by with a puffer jacket and burlap backpack...

I carry enough kit and supplies for three people. Weight isn't a factor yet, so why not?

[abrown3 1]

Just from my short couple of weeks playing dayz, my opinion on clothing is:

 

1) While it helps tip the scales in an unexpected social encounter, I don't think it makes much difference to those who hunt/ kill for the thrill. They seem to be all about KOS.

2) Clothing may make a difference in situations where players encountered have strong political beliefs & life-experiences: Some players are more inclined to see a person dressed as a "hippy" and/or "pacifist" as more trustworthy while other players may see a military-geared person as more trustworthy. Not much you can do in that situation other than dress as benign as possible to avoid raising the ire of... anyone.

3) While not inclined to speak in game, I've still found it a lot more effective than my attire in avoiding conflict. Very rarely have I said, "Friendly" to someone and gotten attacked. That said, I do keep my distance and presume they will still try to attack. Especially in spawning zones.

 

I avoid anyone in a coastal area or the airfields, period. I see the following as more inclined to be friendly:

-- Someone going about their business without a weapon in-hand. Can still be "armed" just not twitchy/ paranoid-looking.

-- Stylishly dressed characters (they probably put thought into how they come across to other players, and therefore avoiding conflict is probably high on their priority list.)

-- Someone visually signaling friendly or saying so and not running full speed AT me. And respecting a degree of personal space. 

[Crooked Hauser 258]

One of my favorite points.

I would look like one of the fully military geared bandits in RL cause in RL my closet is already filled with such items. M4 type rifle? Covered. Camo? Covered. Plate Carrier? Covered. Gas Mask? Covered etc, etc...

And I'm not even a preper...

Are you active duty military? If not then you're a (closet) prepper. Seriously... Take a long look in the mirror and tell yourself you're not a prepper. Those tears are tears of acceptance, bro. You've earned them. You're welcome. ;)

[Crooked Hauser 258]

I am interested in the term barracks rats.

Does this refer to players who get to a military loot spawn area and then hop servers to collect loot until they are fully kitted with military gear ?

If so cool term :)

Beats being a Kenny Loggins. "Highway to the danger zone / unless I run into a player, oh / then I'm gonna log out of the danger zo-wo-own"

[RoterBallon 68]

I'm almost fully gearded with camo stuff and guns, but always friendly. Well, my gear is the reason why I avoid any contact with people in the game except of the people I play with.

I don't KoS, but I enjoys shooting server hoppers ;)

[louist 163]

The simple fact of the matter is that camouflage clothing provides an advantage that everyone, bandits included, can benefit from. Unwanted attention is something everyone wants to avoid, and camouflage helps mitigate that. Equating people in camouflage with bandits is silly.

[Crooked Hauser 258]

Damn you people. Now I've replaced my green rain jacket for an orange one thinking you bastards won't KoS me anymore. I've never killed anyone... Well, I shot a fellow unconcious but he fired first. We actually both went unconcious and then I waited to log out until his buddy showed up 5 minutes later to rob me. Pricks. All of you.

;)

[dvsilverwing 241]

Personally, I only wear matching clothes. I'll drop a few inventory slots in order to wear clothes that match :wub: , don't care what color as long as they go together, also motorcycle helmet of matching color simply so I don't get fisted by newspawns (tbh meta helmet, far more likely to be fisted in the head than shot in the head, best headgear choice for anyone imo).

Edited February 12, 2014 by dvsilverwing

[Crooked Hauser 258]

Personally, I only wear matching clothes. I'll drop a few inventory slots in order to wear clothes that match :wub: , don't care what color as long as they go together, also motorcycle helmet of matching color simply so I don't get fisted by newspawns (tbh meta helmet, far more likely to be fisted in the head than shot in the head, best headgear choice for anyone imo).

Agree. I wear moto helmets even though I think I look like Charlie Sheen in The Wraith... But I hate getting head wounds.