Why did he just sit down?

[crazykage 1063]

Another self confessed KoS bandit... oh well.

I have thoroughly explained my reasons, here in this thread for KOS. Either you didn't read the post I made on page 2, or you simply don't agree. Which is fine.

 

But yes. I KoS. Not even very often. But yes. I do it. And I THOROUGLY enjoy it, for reasons stated earlier.

 

I GENUINELY look forward to the day that I hunt another player, and he turns the tables on me, killing ME instead. Then I can finally say "HELL YEAH! Someone BEAT me at my own game!" Its boring if you always win. You loose the sense of challenge...

[rybo 171]

nope. edited for delete. I have no interest in responding to your childish attitude, or continuing to debate with it. Ignore list is a wonderfull thing. I think im going to start seeing a LOT of white bars in this forum...

 

Negative...

[zeroy 240]

I have thoroughly explained my reasons, here in this thread for KOS

 

Explaining it doesnt make it right for me, sorry. Its a free world on the other hand.

[crazykage 1063]

Ok I read it, didnt clarify anything. The fun is interacting with people, making them do silly things as a bandit or making a team... Overall its the interaction.. Yet again this is my opinion but I think your either defending yourself all wrong, or just playing the game wrong (douchy).

 

Ill say it one more time, THIS IS MY OPINION. Sniping and shooting anyone you see for "fun" is a douchy way to play. lol.

No, it isn't just your opinion. Its opinion couched in insult. There is NOTHING "douchy" about what I do. it isn't a "douchy" way to play, its simply A WAY TO PLAY. I enjoy interaction with players. I thought it was hilarious when I got held up by 3 guys who handcuffed me and sprayed bleach in my mouth. But I don't want to limit myself to ONE play style in a, what was the word? Oh yeah....SANDBOX GAME!

 

Personally, I have ZERO interest in trying to be a bandit, picking on fresh spawns by making them do "silly" things. I would much rather engage in very serious, potentially lethal, combat. and even then, not at all times.

 

If you get to call me a Douche for playing a sandbox game the way I want to, then I guess its ok for me to call you a lovey-dovey pansy pussy for wanting everyone to play along all NICE and SWEET and letsallbefwends. But hey, that's just my "opinion",

[zeroy 240]

There is NOTHING "douchy" about what I do.

 

If you are familiar to these forums then you should know that KoS and Bandits arent the most well regarded type of play for many. At this stage its limit trolling ;) - quit while you're ahead. We'll agree to disagree.

[rybo 171]

No, it isn't just your opinion. Its opinion couched in insult. There is NOTHING "douchy" about what I do. it isn't a "douchy" way to play, its simply A WAY TO PLAY. I enjoy interaction with players. I thought it was hilarious when I got held up by 3 guys who handcuffed me and sprayed bleach in my mouth. But I don't want to limit myself to ONE play style in a, what was the word? Oh yeah....SANDBOX GAME!

 

Personally, I have ZERO interest in trying to be a bandit, picking on fresh spawns by making them do "silly" things. I would much rather engage in very serious, potentially lethal, combat. and even then, not at all times.

 

If you get to call me a Douche for playing a sandbox game the way I want to, then I guess its ok for me to call you a lovey-dovey pansy pussy for wanting everyone to play along all NICE and SWEET and letsallbefwends. But hey, that's just my "opinion",

 

Just my opinion but you bombed your own thread..

[spartanxapathy 203]

He probably just gave up because some asshole has nothing better to do but sit on a building and snipe anyone he see's.

 

Then he is playing the wrong damn game isn't he? You should to expect to be shot from anywhere, at any time. Can't deal with that, play something else.

 

Ah shit, what was this thread about again? Play styles? Nah. I think it was something else, but I forgot.

Edited February 10, 2014 by SpartanxApathy

[blissfulkunt 196]

Geez, you guys are touchy about defending your KoS mentality, I havnt even said anything regarding KoS ruining the game.

 

Yes you should be on your toe's at all times. Why you guys think skipping the whole interaction part and going straight for the kill is fun, I have no idea.. like I said My Opinion.

 

The guy probably sat down and accepted his death, that is all Im saying. I have been there, I have stood there and let a guy axe me out of frustration, it happens.

[attackm0de 38]

I hate snipers. You "got the drop" on him, huh? Nice.

I agree that he should have played it out, but honestly, crouching on a building and shooting someone from 200 meters isn't combat.

We should not call it "combat logging" in that sense.

 

I love that building. I love laying there for ages waiting. Waiting for someone or even a few too come across that field and get half way before I begin to shoot!!.. Love it so much. Hats off to that dude!. He didn't take a chance having someone running towards him, especially straight after tooling up at that Military Base! Usually when I am on the building in question, I watch across that field before I make my way over to the base so if there's a threat in the area, I take it out if can!

Edited February 10, 2014 by Attackm0de

[pilgrim* 3514]

I think this is more 'hunting' than 'combat'. It's a different skill, but I have no moral thought about either. But I think IMHO its a bad idea to run across open places, for sure.

 

Maybe the guy had two bullets in him, or he knew he was caught with his pants down,  and he decided it was time to be Zen?

 

Off topic - Anyone know what happens in game if you log when you're unconscious?

(like, unconscious where you are NOT going to revive, however long you wait _ and nobody gonna help you either) Does your body sit up for 30 secs because you are not dead when you leave the game, then vanish? Or does it go to 'dead player' in game as soon as you log out?

 

pilgrim

Edited February 10, 2014 by pilgrim

[UbuntuFoo 40]

Not that I am defending his combat logging. I smiled when I read your OP. But, I wanted to say it's easy to win when you're the only one playing. What I mean is this guy seemingly posed no threat towards you. He was running in an open field, pretty much helpless, and you reacted like he was hunting you down. Like he was engaged in combat with you, which he wasn't he was being shot at from someone hiding 200m away. Even worse when you admit you just logged in, since that might mean he cleared your rooftop, only to have you appear out of thin air.(But, I doubt he cleared anything if he was running in the open.)

 

Anyway, my point is that you shouldn't act so high and mighty for sniping at a random guy who posed no threat to you. That's not having superior skills & positioning, that's just preying on the weak.

 

He had high ground, initiative, and the right weapon for the job.  Who cares if he didn't talk to him first, let him live, give him a hug. There's only 1 person who you can dictate play style choice to: yourself.

SMH at judging and labeling someone based on a single instance of game play that you weren't even involved in.

Good job OP.

[crazykage 1063]

If you are familiar to these forums then you should know that KoS and Bandits arent the most well regarded type of play for many. At this stage its limit trolling ;) - quit while you're ahead. We'll agree to disagree.

Thank you, zeroy. THAT, I can respect.

 

That being said, I am done defending this issue. I cannot possibly state my reasons more clearly, more eloquently, or more intelligently than I have already. Yet some people refuse to either accept a difference in opinion (without slinging insults, that is), or simply cannot cross the mental hurdle to understand my view point. So, from now on, I will simply say this:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIR51_J_qY

 

OHHHH! The tears of unfathomable sadness!! MmmmYummy! Yummy gais!

Edited February 10, 2014 by Crazykage

[blissfulkunt 196]

Thank you, zeroy. THAT, I can respect.

 

That being said, I am done defending this issue. I cannot possibly state my reasons more clearly, more eloquently, or more intelligently than I have already. Yet some people refuse to either accept a difference in opinion (without slinging insults, that is), or simply cannot cross the mental hurdle to understand my view point. So, from now on, I will simply say this:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIR51_J_qY

 

OHHHH! The tears of unfathomable sadness!! MmmmYummy! Yummy gais!

And all I was doing was stating my opinion. Agreeing to disagree. Sorry you took it so badly.. is that you in the video lol

 

Edit: I never called you a Douche once, however I have to say you definitely showed your true colors throughout the post.

Edited February 10, 2014 by Blissful

[attackm0de 38]

I think this is more 'hunting' than 'combat'. It's a different skill, but I have no moral thought about either. But I think IMHO its a bad idea to run across open places, for sure.

 

Maybe the guy had two bullets in him, or he knew he was caught with his pants down,  and he decided it was time to be Zen?

 

 

 

 

Especially running across that field. I forgot to mention and it's no secret but you should move through as much cover as possible, which may take a bit longer but you live! Now when I go from the Vybor area over to that base, I always choose the left hand side. There's a creek and small trees breaking up the open field on that side that I jog through. I never sprint like a gimp with my gun on my back either!

[rybo 171]

I think this is more 'hunting' than 'combat'. It's a different skill, but I have no moral thought about either. But I think IMHO its a bad idea to run across open places, for sure.

 

Maybe the guy had two bullets in him, or he knew he was caught with his pants down,  and he decided it was time to be Zen?

 

Off topic - Anyone know what happens in game if you log when you're unconscious?

(like, unconscious where you are NOT going to revive, however long you wait _ and nobody gonna help you either) Does your body sit up for 30 secs because you are not dead when you leave the game, then vanish? Or does it go to 'dead player' in game as soon as you log out?

 

pilgrim

 

You die. Same goes with Hand Cuffs.

[quantum2k6 348]

roof...bla.. logging in... bla 200meter.. bla... kos... bla... destroeyed his own loot...

 

thx for posting this topic.... really thx.... omg u rock so much...

 

u kill this guy alone? damn man only 3 shots.... ohh god u are so fucking awesome. ;)

 

SOMEONE CALL CNN GODDAMN! :lol:

 

....good night...

Edited February 10, 2014 by quantum2k6

[GoldenKade 73]

What he said:

roof...bla.. logging in... bla 200meter.. bla... kos... bla... destroeyed his own loot...

 

thx for posting this topic.... really thx.... omg u rock so much...

 

u kill this guy alone? damn man only 3 shots.... ohh god u are so fucking awesome. ;)

 

SOMEONE CALL CNN GODDAMN! :lol:

 

....good night...

What I understood - ....good night...

[GoldenKade 73]

I personally, in my opinion, doubt the guy was combat logging. He probably just gave up because some asshole has nothing better to do but sit on a building and snipe anyone he see's. I understand this is part of the game, I am just stating in my opinion, sitting on a building sniping anyone has to be one of the lamest things... go find a team or something so your not so bored.

Ooo, let's play the "judge people's playstyles" game! Oh nevermind, Blissful already won. Quit complaining.

Without bandits this game wouldn't be the same.

[aeoliana 22]

... you know what comes reaaaaaaaallly damned close? Playing DayZ. Here, I can pick my weapon, scout out my hunting grounds, zero the weapon with some well aimed practice shots, stalk my prey, lie in wait, take the shot. And whats more? My prey could EASILY suddenly become my hunter if I do something wrong. Hell, just as in real hunting, I could do EVERYTHING right, and still get blasted. The pure rush of attempting to outwit and kill, yes, KILL another human being, capable of the same level of higher thought as me, is amazing. AND I don't have to worry about real world concepts like morality, empathy, the law, or the outright fact that I would never gain any actuall pleasure from literally killing a fellow human being. But in DayZ, it is possible to pit my wits, cunning, skill, and luck against another human being, and guess what? No matter how it turns out, both walk away from it un harmed.

 

Do you grasp my meaning here? I don't mean to sound sociopathic, but there it is folks! This, for me, is fucking exciting! Its not to troll you, or make you miserable, or ruin your experience. Its because I revel in the challenge of outwitting my fellow man (woman?) in a life or death struggle, in which nobody actually gets hurt! GAAAAHHHH!! Its so AWESOME! Ok I gotta go. I got a serious urge to fukin stalk and kill someone right now. In game of course....

 

 

Unless I'm missing something I don't see you outwitting anyone here... You admittedly got lucky to have him right in front of you when you spawned in. You then took 3 shots at an incredibly easy distance and missed one of them. You displayed neither skill nor cunning so what are you getting off on?

 

I'm not saying killing the guy was wrong. In my opinion, if you're running around recklessly you're asking to get shot. On the other hand if you're a sniper camping the same spot killing people that don't even know you are there, you aren't talented, you're shooting fish in a barrel. 

 

I would put money on this guy being a 'sniper' so long as no one is returning fire. As soon as he hears shots nearby he probably runs behind some trees on sniper hill and logs out. It takes longer than 30 seconds to run up the hill so he can come back later once they've given up looking.

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

please read the last paragraph of my last post on page 2. I think you fail to understand why people do this sort of thing, or at least, why I in particular do it. Read it. Go on. then you might understand that it is about more than simply "ruining your day". Ruining your day, in fact, has NOTHING to do with it....

 

So... because you have good intentions we should embrace you blowing our brains out from a rooftop 200m away?

 

You can say, for you it's not about ruining peoples day, but you have to consider the consequences of your actions. If you're gonna ruin peoples day by blowing their heads off, weather it's done intentionally or unintentionally for other reasons, people are going to react badly towards you and your playstyle, especially when you come on to these forums and brag about it.

 

Sitting here and saying there's nothing else that's fun, just makes you look like a deathmatching COD kiddie. Weather you are or are not, it doesn't matter because by saying that over and over to justify your KOS mentality, you're trivializing the social aspects of DayZ. You're stating it like it's a fact, but it's just your opinion, and many people disagree with it.

Edited February 11, 2014 by bad_mojo

[Gekkonidae 270]

So this is how combat logging looks like now. Some cunt sniper camping Elektro got shot by me and I chased him into a house where I found him sitting. He disappeared before I could finish him off.

 

This is why I think it should be 45 seconds of sitting instead of 30, to compensate for long range attackers doing the same bullshit: combat logging. I do snipe, but I bet I could log out from an attacker that was a few hundred meters away before they even got to me.

[Furtherado 100]

Here we go again, KoS arguments being thrown back and forth again fruitlessly. With the same old CoD kiddie mumbo jumbo being thrown around. He isn`t trivializing the social aspects of DayZ, it`s just that 8/10 you get shot if you trust someone and that is a crappy way to die. Besides, there isn`t really much to DO other than shoot eachother in the game, i don`t feel like talking to some guy and having to keep track of where he is in order to cooperate towards some unclear goal which usually ends up with a shootout with some other group of players anyways.

 

Why would deathmathching CoD kids still be playing this game? It`s bug-riddled, has no achievements or xp and it can take hours before you meet anyone, whereas in CoD it takes max 10 seconds before the bullets and nades start flying.  

 

The CoD-kiddie word is so misplaced. 

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

Here we go again, KoS arguments being thrown back and forth again fruitlessly. With the same old CoD kiddie mumbo jumbo being thrown around. He isn`t trivializing the social aspects of DayZ, it`s just that 8/10 you get shot if you trust someone and that is a crappy way to die. Besides, there isn`t really much to DO other than shoot eachother in the game, i don`t feel like talking to some guy and having to keep track of where he is in order to cooperate towards some unclear goal which usually ends up with a shootout with some other group of players anyways.

 

Why would deathmathching CoD kids still be playing this game? It`s bug-riddled, has no achievements or xp and it can take hours before you meet anyone, whereas in CoD it takes max 10 seconds before the bullets and nades start flying.  

 

The CoD-kiddie word is so misplaced. 

 

I didn't call him a cod kiddie. I said that when he keeps saying over and over "there's nothing to do but pvp" it makes him look like a deathmatching cod kiddie. I thought that if he knew how he was coming across to some of us, he might decide to change the way he explains himself and maybe get better responses.

 

You're doing the same thing he was doing, making generalizations about how the majority of times you die if you trust people and that there's nothing fun to do but kill others. All that does is make a lot of people roll their eyes and ignore your posts, because they've experienced the opposite. Those things are subjective, we aren't all equally as charming and we all value different things.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

So, earlier today, I logged in on top of this industrial building (brown one that is not enterable, has 2 ladders).

 

After a few moments to let the desync go away, and reorganize my inventory, I prone and start scanning the area.

 

LOW and behold, running out in the open, coming from the small military base south of NWAF, I see a tiny black speck moving across the field in my direction.

 

I quickly pulled out my sks, zeroed it to 200, and waited for him to get closer. He was maybe 50 feet or so away from the main road, when I opened fire. I missed the first shot, but the second and third hit, I think.

 

He stopped running, turned in a circle, and then did the strangest thing: He just sat down. Not crouched, but SITTING.

 

I finished him off then, and looted his corpse. He had a ton of sks ammo and a nice pristine storage box, which I took. I drank all his soda, ate his apple, and took the bag of rice for later. I had no need for the rest, so I hid his body and ran back to a hidey hole to play a rousing game of inventory tetris, shortly after which the game crashed and I called it for the day.

 

But my question is, WHY? Why did he just SIT DOWN? He made no attempt to escape, return fire, take cover (not that much cover was available to him). Why?

 

Don't let these kids get you down. The only mistake you made?

 

You missed the first shot.

 

KOS 4 LYFE

[VincentNZ 5]

This kind of attitude, NOT KoS, is what is ruining this game's community.

 

"So somebody shot at me, and now im gonna lose all this digital stuff..."

 

Cry some more. Then use derogatory and hateful terminology that expresses a lack of tolerance for the lifestyle choices of another human being.

 

Im not the one ruining this game.

 

Well you seem to be rather greedy of your own stuff yourself, otherwise you would not need to justify to protect it in an imaginary way, by shooting a guy that did not pose any threat to you. You came on that roof to kill people, not to loot anyone, not for survival, just for PvP. You should at least be able to admit it.

 

There is no reason to shoot people in this game, the survival aspect is laughable, gear and everyday stuff comes by the tons. Player interaction is not exercised because it simply is not needed. There is no need for banditry either, because this would imply the need of new gear. Fact is this game is just another shooter and will stay this way for a long, long time.

 

On the topic though, this is indedd the new logout timer. Still sub-optimum, but this is the best I could think of as well.