alexeistukov 272 Posted March 4, 2014 thats right irish, but i dont think we need tons of highend tactical sniperrifles.i dont think olga from novy sobor has some of this sniper rifle guns under the bed...there are alot of great old styled hunting rilfes which fit perfectly in the cenario like the B95.would be great if we find more damaged weapons and have to find working parts to complete them.The Blaser B95 like the Ruger firearms to be implemented, have no place in Eastern Europe. Notice how both are American weapon manufacturers? I don't like the way the devs ate heading with some of these firearms. Again, the military had an extremely strong presence in Chernarus during the outbreak because they had to put it down. They would of brought anything from a large caliber sniper rifle all the down to a 9mm handgun to try and put it down Thus when they failed, they left their weapons behind on the ground when they either died or panicked and retreated. Sniper Rifles.. not Sniper rifle guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted March 4, 2014 Blaser is a german manufacturer, as far as I know :sSo it can appear in eastern europe. And yup, not high-end-sniperrifles, please.More old fashioned, trusty weapons, which are more likely to appear in an apocalypse scenario. And that's, where the Winchester 1895 comes into play :> (Best transition ever made, i know :) ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFRGaming 718 Posted March 4, 2014 Ruger is a widely known and used manufacturer throughout the world AFAIK. Don't see why it wouldn't be in Chernarus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted March 4, 2014 Ruger is a widely known and used manufacturer throughout the world AFAIK. Don't see why it wouldn't be in Chernarus.Why put Ruger in instead of the Winchester 1895? The MP-435? The TK Korovin? What I am saying is that there needs to be a wider selection of firearms rather than what we see everyday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted March 4, 2014 Blaser is a german manufacturer, as far as I know :sSo it can appear in eastern europe.And yup, not high-end-sniperrifles, please.More old fashioned, trusty weapons, which are more likely to appear in an apocalypse scenario.And that's, where the Winchester 1895 comes into play :>(Best transition ever made, i know :) )I thought Blaser was American.. must be wrong but the devs screwed up the weapon by what ammunition it uses for both barrels. There should be sniper rifles in Dayz. It would make complete sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) i agree with your military idea, but i can imaging what will happen if the defs adding 4-5 diffrent high tech "Sniper Rifles" into the game... EVERYONE camping for the ultimate longrangekill... then i want high end vehikels too, because the military left them also there from your point. also helicopters and troopcarriers... i dont think this is good for the gameplay... like irish says... more old fashioned weapons... a good old ak, m4 or mosin should be hightech enough... imo... * edit and winchester also ;) a k98 can also be there alot of soldiers bring them home all over the wolrd after ww2... it would perfectly fit into the style of dayZ... thx for the correction im still learning english ;) be patient plz. Edited March 4, 2014 by quantum2k6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted March 4, 2014 i agree with your military idea, but i can imaging what will happen if the defs adding 4-5 diffrent high tech "Sniper Rifles" into the game...EVERYONE camping for the ultimate longrangekill...then i want high end vehikels too, because the military left them also there from your point. also helicopters and troopcarriers...i dont think this is good for the gameplay...like irish says... more old fashioned weapons... a good old ak, m4 or mosin should be hightech enough... imo... * edit and winchester also ;)a k98 can also be there alot of soldiers bring them home all over the wolrd after ww2... it would perfectly fit into the style of dayZ...thx for the correction im still learning english ;) be patient plz.....yes but if we only add old fashion weapons it would not make any sense when the story is released. And these high tech sniper rifles you mention... do you know how rare the gun and even the ammo would be to find? Do you know how low the weapon and ammo spawns are going to be set in the future? Extremely low. About the vehicles you mentioned I agree completely with adding them all. APCs, Light Tanks, couple helicopters, but do you know how hard it would be to maintain them? Fuel, windshield glass, engine parts, ammunition, tires, treads, blades, different tools required to install each part. It would be extremely hard to maintain all of that to just get one of these vehicles operational. Firearms and vehicles alike will be extremely rare and if they only stuck to adding these old fashioned weapons (and I do like old fashion, don't get me wrong), then we better remove the military bases and their presence because they would of used these more advanced firearms than what the normal civilian population would of used. Hell, even the police would have some advanced.gear over the civilian population. If it sounds like I am being hostile, I am not. I am sick right now in real life and just very busy. Thank you for your opinion though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted March 4, 2014 ....yes but if we only add old fashion weapons it would not make any sense when the story is released. And these high tech sniper rifles you mention... do you know how rare the gun and even the ammo would be to find? Do you know how low the weapon and ammo spawns are going to be set in the future? Extremely low.i hope this will happen, i hope u understand my bad feelings about long range weapons... 1 or 2 of this guns per server would be ok for me... i just dont want a snipersimulator thats all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
w1lg5r 70 Posted March 4, 2014 thats right irish, but i dont think we need tons of highend tactical sniperrifles. i dont think olga from novy sobor has some of this sniper rifle guns under the bed... there are alot of great old styled hunting rilfes which fit perfectly in the cenario like the B95. would be great if we find more damaged weapons and have to find working parts to complete them.military intervention Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
w1lg5r 70 Posted March 4, 2014 i hope this will happen, i hope u understand my bad feelings about long range weapons... 1 or 2 of this guns per server would be ok for me... i just dont want a snipersimulator thats all...snipers are a big part of dayz, its what helped to make the mod so brutal. people can freely run through fields with no risk whatsoever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
w1lg5r 70 Posted March 4, 2014 ammo supplies need to be relatively common when zombie numbers skyrocket or it will become a boring game where nobody shoots zombies since they haven't the ammo. only saving their rounds for players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) yeah but its not a part of the game that a 100 player server iss full with 99 snipers in full mill gear and one bambi zigzagging the coast... Edited March 4, 2014 by quantum2k6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Yes, the maingoal of DayZ is, as quantum already said, "survive". And you do not survive, if you mis-understand the word "camping" So.BTT.What i want to say:Sniping is OK, but it can not become the biggest part of DayZ, nor a big part of it.In an apocalypse.Would you sit down on a hill and shoot at randomly passing survivors?Wouldn't you find people, make a group, build a shelter and actually try to survive? IMO, i can not really see, how sniping/camping is needed for surviving.Of course you sit on a hill and look at a city/area to see, if it's "clean", if there are zeds, etc. But otherwise.... However, i also accept, that there need to be long-range-weapons in the game.But ammo for them needs to be rare, and the guns must be even rarer.Otherwise, this will end in a huge campfest and that's the opposite of what actually the game aims for.Sniper-rifles? Yes, but made equal and hard to find and shoot.Ghillie-suits? Yes, but difficult to craft (Pants, Hat and chestpiece, need burlapsack, rope, spraycan(green and black), glue, leaves. and the Ghilliesuit damages itself over the time. Edited March 4, 2014 by irishroy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xRann 126 Posted March 4, 2014 I'd really like to see ACE styling shooting. It would cut down the amount of people who snipe in-game to those that actually could snipe. Requiring elevation and windage adjustments would force people to either learn how or give it up. Then regardless of the amount or types of rifles there would be a smaller group of people actively looking for and using long range rifles. Would you sit down on a hill and shoot at randomly passing survivors?Wouldn't you find people, make a group, build a shelter and actually try to survive?Depending on if I considered that area "Mine" or if it was near a strategic resource, food/water/shelter that I wanted and/or also considered "Mine"Your group can only be as big as you can support, tough call but thems the ropes. My food for your mouth when I don't have enough isn't conducive to my survival but reversed is...dig? Ghillie-suits? Yes, but difficult to craft (Pants, Hat and chestpiece, need burlapsack, rope, spraycan(green and black), glue, leaves. and the Ghilliesuit damages itself over the time.Don't know about it being damaged over time. To make them look natural you usually need to beat them up and get them grizzly so they look like the environment. After that, simple upkeep. Maybe require rope, burlap, glue/tape, and foliage to be readded but I don't know about degrading it over time and forcing a new one to be constructed or you'll reenforce the idea of people burning every last minute of it's lifespan behind the scope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted March 4, 2014 With damaging i meant re-enforcing, such as using again rope, spray, duct-tape to keep the colour and leaves.The burlapsacks and rope however don't need to be found again, i think. But yep, I wasn't thinking about the protecting guarding a certain area.Of course you want to defend it.But tell me: Why would you camp on a hill above a lost city like cherno/elektro? The city isn't protected by a wall around it, there are Zeds on the street. The only valuable is the Loot. but to obtain the loot, you must go in the city, and not camp above it ^^Or why would you camp on a hill above a little village? Same with the city. there may be loot, but not really valuable. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xRann 126 Posted March 4, 2014 But tell me: Why would you camp on a hill above a lost city like cherno/elektro? The city isn't protected by a wall around it, there are Zeds on the street. The only valuable is the Loot. but to obtain the loot, you must go in the city, and not camp above it ^^Or why would you camp on a hill above a little village? Same with the city. there may be loot, but not really valuable.Overwatch, spotting, guiding...early warning. Value is in perspective. Anything hauled away is something, until loot respawns, removed from play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
w1lg5r 70 Posted March 4, 2014 But tell me: Why would you camp on a hill above a lost city like cherno/elektro? The city isn't protected by a wall around it, there are Zeds on the street. The only valuable is the Loot. but to obtain the loot, you must go in the city, and not camp above it ^^Or why would you camp on a hill above a little village? Same with the city. there may be loot, but not really valuable.the fact that anyone could be at any vantage point waiting to kill you increases tension, atmosphere and the overall "fear factor". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted March 4, 2014 I would prefer to let the player decide their actions.. not have the game decide it for them. If they want to scan a town through the scope of a sniper rifle and sit there for 7 hours or so, then let them. Let them waste their ammo on the infected and innocent players/ "bambis". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xRann 126 Posted March 4, 2014 All for the sandbox style, but with a system like ACE mod...sniping wouldn't be as prevalent and everyone couldn't just pick up a rifle do it as effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted March 4, 2014 Sub Machine Gun poll results are up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted March 4, 2014 MANY THANKS TO THE FOLLOWING VOTERS: Shadow134 dvsilverwing Chaingunfighter Wubtella Fulipes ChickenMan AP_Norris EthanHD irishroy Henrik115 Lord Ikka Tricky VIc lootable Admiral_69 thedogfoodyayho - Karma - taco86 Pvt_Larry Dauthi rapture66 Waters123e Kaxii General Zod Kiwuu Dusty_ HrkiGV LaughingJack jona SonicSonedit Koala Lord RedDogMT mugged_by_a_10_year_old KrisKer NwJoolz seraphqc RoterBallon Spatz Awrgh A Hero StekWAR iBane darkwizzel elPropofolian agouti olin Reij0 ***NOTE: If you did not vote on the first option and your name is not on this list, then that means i could not find it*** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AceQuat 63 Posted March 5, 2014 i dont really care what guns end up being added. but we NEED more guns badly in this game. first, seeing everyone run around with M4 and Mosin is kinda stupid. second, gun variety is needed because people would have another thing to look forward to ingame collecting rare weapons etc. ("gun trophy") and they could also trade guns they don't need/don't have ammo for here's a list of guns i'd personally like to see ingame. perhaps the threadstarter could add them to his list (would be awesome) battle rifles:SCAR-H (7.62mm)G3A3 (7.62mm)FN FAL (7.62mm) assault rifles:AUG A3 (5.56mm)AK-74 (5.45mm)TAR-21 (5.56mm)FAMAS (5.56mm)G36 (5.56mm) carbines:AKS-74U (5.45mm) submachineguns:UMP-45 (.45ACP)PP-2000 (9mm)MP5 (9mm)P90 (5.7mm) machineguns:M60E4 (7.62mm)M249 (5.56mm)MG36 (5.56mm)Type88 (5.6mm)PKP (7.62mm)RPK (5.45mm) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) dafuQ FN Fal will come,Ak47 will be implemented 100% sure, so ak-74 maybe not. But what's up with all this "more military"-weapons? M60 is an american LMG, M249 is american, tooand all the german weaponry, mg36, g3a3, mp5 bliblablup. the less i give a fuck, the happier i am Sry, but i don't give a fuck about military weapons.Sure, they may be rare and hard to find, but therefore more powerful. Why you no suggest more "civilian" weaponry? Sorry, but (to me), the list is like the 08/15 weaponry (steyr aug, p90, m249, mp5, mg36,g36,famas, tar-21,Type 88) from any other shooter out there...The real civilian weapons right now are the Shotgun, the hunting rifle and maybe the revolver/mosin.But FNX, M4 and Mosin are military weapons, i think.whatever. Sorry, that your suggestion isn't liked by some people, but #1 it's standard weaponry from any other shooter.#2 only a few military guns, and more civilian#3 some of these weapons are likely to be implemented Edited March 5, 2014 by irishroy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sutinen 635 Posted March 5, 2014 Sub Machine Guns:PP-19 Bizon Sub Machine Gun (7.62x25mm Tokarev, 9x18 Makarov, 9x19 Parrabellum, .380 ACP): Manufactured in the Russian Federation, the Bizon was designed to be a counter-terrorist and law enforcement type firearm. It is a light-weight, selective fire, open bolt SMG that has many variants that each fire a different caliber. The feeding system is the oddest thing about the fire arm being a cylinder that holds 64 rounds, it often is confused to be a grenade launcher. The gun was existent in the MOD version of Dayz and it proved its effectiveness to the players by showing them what happens if you stick a 64 cylinder magazine to a gun and let loose. Oh and did i forget to mention that it can be fitted with a suppressor and many other attachments? This the perfect weapon to cut down unaware enemies very very quickly.IMAGE: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120201024343/forgotten/images/9/94/An_Izhmash_PP19_Bizon.pngVotes Yes: 24Votes No: 17 PP-2000 Sub Machine Gun (9x19 Parrabellum): Manufactured in the Russian Federation, the PP-2000 is designed as a close-quarter combat weapon, intended for riot police and special operations forces. In 2008, it was adopted as one of the two standard SMGs of the Russian police, the other being the PP-19 Bizon. The firearm also features a wire folding stock and a place to spare 44 round magazine at the rear of the gun, where the stock is. Many law enforcement units have adopted this SMG as one of their standard issued Sub Machine Guns. This type of sub machine gun would fit perfectly into the upcoming story of Dayz if the police are mentioned to have helped contain the infection during the outbreak. The PP-2000 is like that of an IMI Uzi, but even better.IMAGE: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/PP-2000_with_detached_magazine.jpgVotes Yes: 16Votes No: 25 MP-40 (Maschinen Pistole) Sub Machine Gun (9x19mm Parrabellum): Manufactured in Nazi Germany, The MP-40 was one of the most sucessful sub machine guns developed in Nazi Germany. It was used extensively by Paratroopers, platoon and squad leaders, and other troops during World War Two. It is erroneously called the Schmeisser, even though Hugo Schmesisser did not have any involvement in the design and production of the MP-40 Sub Machine Gun. However, even though it was a well made sub machine gun, there were never enough MP-40 Sub Machine Guns to go around for the Nazi Military. The raw material and labor costs made it to expensive to be produced along side the Karabiner-98k Rifles, which troopers often found themselves more and more into assault roles. Some German soldiers had to even use the scavenged Russian PPSH-41 Sub Machineguns inorder to fill the need. The MP-40 Sub Machine Gun can also feature an Iron Stock for the user to provide improved handling of the firearm during long periods of combat. The MP-40 was not only used by Nazi Germany, but other nations in World War 2 and even after, which include Poland, Spain, Yugoslavia, Finland, Belgium, Austria, and North Vietnam. It would make a great addition to Dayz Standalone, along with the upcoming Karabiner-98k bolt action rifle that is coming out soon. Many MP-40s are collected by police officials in Russia from many criminal organizations. IMAGE (MP-40 Without Iron Stock): http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs23/f/2008/009/0/5/MP40_Right_by_L_Jodorowsky.jpgIMAGE (MP-40 With Iron Stock): http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetcoh.gamespy.com/images/history/mp40.jpgThis firearm was first suggested by Admiral_69 and Gews Votes Yes: 25Votes No: 14 What. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexeistukov 272 Posted March 5, 2014 What.You must of missed the poll? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites