- Karma - 75 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Preface So let me start by saying I'm shocked that something like this isn't already stickied. I see that we get a lot of great ideas, but as with any forums the same ideas come up in the same posts over and over. So hopefully we can gather the more popular ideas here as a one-stop-shop for the Devs if they are willing to check out what we have to say (and where they also know they ideas have already been vetted by the community). Also, if you're looking for a thread that is a lot more specific try here: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/164282-suggest-an-item-thread/ If you're looking for a well organized thread on weapon ideas try here: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/172276-suggested-weapons-for-dayz-standalone/ How This Should Work I will use this post to organize a listing of items we would like to see that are generally agreed upon by the community. If it can't go into your inventory, I'm not going to post it - i.e. cars. I may very well do a similar post for game play ideas if this goes well. The first sequence of posts will be any item either in the experimental builds or confirmed rumored from reputable sites or directly from the Devs. After that any entry with a link will be someone else's idea - apologies if you feel offended that I didn't ask for permission to link, and apologies if you had posted the idea much earlier but I brought a later entry as the link. Feel free to provide links, I can't get to them all and to save time I'll start from the newest and work my way back. Any entry without a link an idea with many smaller links. I'm only going to consider ideas that have been generally well received by the community (even if I hate it personally) - i.e. has a poll with a 2:1 positive ratio (using a poll is the easiest way for me to see if it is a popular idea or not), or a thread with many beans given out and minimal derailment (within reason). I'll take ideas put into this thread directly as well, provided they get beans/upvotes. If something is put in and community response changes, I'll take it out. If someone has better information than me regarding rumors, I'll change it. Something to remember when making suggestions is to take into account Loot Table Dilution - the more items you put in, the worse the loot tables get. Before making a suggestion, ask yourself - does something else in the game already do that? If so, would this really add to the game enough to make it worth the Devs while? I ask that we please not turn this thread into a debate. I'll provide the links so that if you want to debate, go to the source and do it there please to reduce clutter - don't shoot the messenger :) The List Weapons AK Family of weapons (AKM and AK74 confirmed) SVD (also known as SV-98 Dragunov, the standard Soviet Military sniper rifle for years)Remington 870 Shotgun (confirmed very popular US pump-action in use worldwide)Crossbows (confirmed)Bows (confirmed) http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/168415-compound-bow/Chainsaw (confirmed, rumored to need gas to operate)Hunting Knife (confirmed, unique in serves as a tool once/if Hunting implemented) HK Family of weapons(rumored by Devs, most common known are the G series rifles, and MP5 series) https://twitter.com/ctorchia/statuses/431144017183522816Steyr Family of weapons (rumored by Devs, most common known are the AUG and TMP) https://twitter.com/ctorchia/statuses/431144017183522816SIG Family of weapons (rumored by DEvs, , most common known probably the P226 line of pistols) https://twitter.com/ctorchia/statuses/431144017183522816Grenades/Grenade Launchers/Explosives (rumored, have heard it will require some major upgrades to engine)Molotov Cocktails/Improvised Explosives/Traps (rumored)FN FAL (rumored, Belgian made semi-auto assault rifle very popular with NATO nations during the Cold War)Karabiner 98k (German WWII rifle, similar to the Mosin) (rumored)Mauser C96 (German WWII semi-auto pistol) (rumored) Tokarev TT-33 (very common early Soviet era pistol) as voted by community Makarov PM (standard issue sidearm for Soviet forces era) as voted by communityNagant M1895 (very old design but still used in Russia up to 2006 ostensibly) as voted by communityPPSh-41 (WWII era Russian SMG, mass produced) as voted by communitySkorpion Vz. 82 (Czech made machine pistol/SMG) as voted by communityHK MP5 (German made SMG, popularized in many video games and movies) as voted by communityMolot Belkas-M (Russian made shotgun, pump-action, with several version including a short-barrel pistol-grip) as voted by communityTOZ-194 (Russian made shotgun, pump-action, popular in both hunting and home defense) as voted by communityTasersPolice BatonSledgehammerShiv (crafted item)Pepper SpraySpear (crafted item) http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/171421-spears/ Ammo & Attachments 5.45x39mm (confirmed, commonly for AK-74 and modern AK family)7.62X39mm (confirmed, commonly for the AKM and older AK family) Russian Specific Attachments for AK Family (rumored) (likely including variant stocks, side mount rail, barrel mount rail, etc)Russian Specific Sights and Scopes (rumored) (likely including the 1P29 (SUIT), 1P78 (ACOG), EKP-8-2 (Red Dot), and PSO-1M2 (Electronic Scope))Night Vision Scope (rumored) (likely the NSPUM) Less Than Lethal Rounds (for knockouts rather than kills, likely only for certain weapons) http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/167375-add-ltl-rounds/Weapon SlingsRifle Wraps (Craftable, using rags or burlap sacks) http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/173415-rifle-wraps-for-all-long-rifles/ Gear & Tools GPS (confirmed)Mess Tin (confirmed)Binoculars (confirmed)Night Vision Goggles (confirmed)Crafting Materials (confirmed, includes banknotes, birch bark, lead rod, sheet metal, wood plank, etc)Road Flares (confirmed)Watch (confirmed) Butane Torch (rumored)Flare Gun (rumored) More Gun Holsters http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/170561-should-there-be-more-gun-holsters/Megaphones http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/163593-megaphones/FirecrackersPolaroid Camera http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/165392-polaroid-cameras/?hl=polaroidSwiss Army Knife/Multitool (contains screwdriver, small knife, pliers, etc - very rare)Camcorder (with night vision mode, goes through batteries fast) - mentioned in several threadsJournal/Diary - mentioned in several threadsLighter/ZippoMagnifying Glass Clothing & Similar Boonie Hat (confirmed) http://www.militaryuniformsupply.com/files/f5502-boonie-atacs-fg.jpg Ghillie Suit (rumored) Modular Plate Carrier Vest http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/170066-molle-or-modular-plate-carrier-vest/Backwards Cap variant or optionRussian Themed Clothes (such as Gorka, Telnyashka, Shinel, etc) http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/170208-clothing-ideas/Facial Bandana, Ski-mask, BalaclavaCowboy BootsPeaked Cap (vanity) http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_311_Russian_Army_Military_Officer_Uniform_Visor_Hat_Cap_NEW_%232.htmlWorker/Hunter VestCustomizable Clothing or Identifier Clothing (a way to mark yourself as part of a group or in a particular role)Belts (Tool, Tactical, Normal with varying storage)Overalls/Worker CoverallsPonchoMore Femine-specific Clothing (although this hasn't hit "popular" status yet, should be done IMO) http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/172173-women-clothes/Head Wraps (Shemagh is an example, used by the military) - see page 3 post by KennyKyleRiot Armor, Riot Helmet, Riot Shields - several sources Food & Beverage Hot Food (confirmed, the ability to cook) Fresh Fish (with the option to fish) http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/170297-if-hunting-will-come-why-not-fishing-as-well/MRE's (military rations) Disclaimer - it has been busy for me lately with work, so I may be behind on the suggestions posts; feel free to post link to your idea thread if it seems I've missed it. Edit: Mar 19th, removed all items that recently were put into the newest update Edited March 19, 2014 by - Karma - 12 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zhrike 264 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Beards. Not one mention. Your post is invalid. Edit: MOTHERFUCKING BEARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I keed, I keed. But seriously. Beards. It's unanimous.) Edited February 3, 2014 by Zhrike 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 3, 2014 Beards. Not one mention. Your post is invalid.Edit: MOTHERFUCKING BEARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(I keed, I keed. But seriously. Beards. It's unanimous.) I was going to put it on the list....then I was like "Is that an equipped item? If so, does that make it a fake beard? If it is fake, does that then mean that those of us who really have beards don't get the special powers that comes along with them?". Too many questions, not enough answers. Had to leave it out :P But yes, please give us the option for beards Devs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zhrike 264 Posted February 3, 2014 Bacon. *sigh* :-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) SKS Carbine (Experimental Build, likely going in Feb 5th)SKS Bayonet (Experimental Build, likely going in Feb 5th) AK Family of weapons (AK47, AKM, AK74, AK-12 rumored/being considered I believe) also http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/170137-ak-4774s-in-game/Ruger 10/22 Rifle (rumored, small game hunting rifle)CZ-75P Pistol (rumored, popular Czech made 9mm)Remington 870 Shotgun (rumored, very popular USpump-action in use worldwide)Blaser B97 (rumored, over/under barrel shotgun, not too sure about this one) The AK-74M, Blaser B97, Ruger 10/22, CZ-75P and Remington 870 aren't rumored, there are screenshots of them around. I just added them to the wiki weapons page whilst organizing it for the sake of having them there, without actually making pages for them yet. I guess none of the weapons are 'confirmed' but it's safe to say that they will be in considering the devs have talked about them more than once and released screenshots.Blaser B97CrossbowAK-74M (Also confirms the GP-30 grenade launcher) Couldn't find the one with the 10/22, 870 and CZ-75P, but there is a screenshot somewhere on the internet. The SKS has already been added into the game, by the way. And don't get your hopes up for an AK-12 (not realistic, at all) or an AK-47 (Chances are there will only be either an AKM or AK-47, not both) Edited February 3, 2014 by Chaingunfighter 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) The AK-74M, Blaser B97, Ruger 10/22, CZ-75P and Remington 870 aren't rumored, there are screenshots of them around. I just added them to the wiki weapons page whilst organizing it for the sake of having them there, without actually making pages for them yet. I guess none of the weapons are 'confirmed' but it's safe to say that they will be in considering the devs have talked about them more than once and released screenshots. - snipped pictures - Couldn't find the one with the 10/22, 870 and CZ-75P, but there is a screenshot somewhere on the internet. The SKS has already been added into the game, by the way. And don't get your hopes up for an AK-12 (not realistic, at all) or an AK-47 (Chances are there will only be either an AKM or AK-47, not both) I see - I guess then I'll have to determine whether to change the status to "confirmed" or not. That all looks legit though, not that I'm doubting you but...interwebz, right? I agree it's all highly likely, I just wanted to leave things "rumored" until they made the experimental builds - just because it's on experimental build doesn't guarantee it in the game, but it's likely then. See what I'm saying? I don't know, what do you think -should I add a "confirmed" tag? Your guys' call - this page is for the whole community, not just me :) Edited February 3, 2014 by - Karma - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted February 3, 2014 I see - I guess then I'll have to determine whether to change the status to "confirmed" or not. That all looks legit though, not that I'm doubting you but...interwebz, right? I agree it's all highly likely, I just wanted to leave things "rumored" until they made the experimental builds - just because it's on experimental build doesn't guarantee it in the game, but it's likely then. See what I'm saying? I don't know, what do you think -should I add a "confirmed" tag? Your guys' call - this page is for the whole community, not just me :)Yeah, there's no guarantee any of it will be in the game until it's in the game. I always tell myself to be sure of that, because I've played games before where content was even listed in the next patch notes and ended up being left out for whatever reason.Still, I think it's safe to assume it will be in, the devs have no good reason to abandon their hard work, but nonetheless. I just was pointing that out so the information had a source and didn't seem like it was because I made it up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 3, 2014 Yeah, there's no guarantee any of it will be in the game until it's in the game. I always tell myself to be sure of that, because I've played games before where content was even listed in the next patch notes and ended up being left out for whatever reason.Still, I think it's safe to assume it will be in, the devs have no good reason to abandon their hard work, but nonetheless. I just was pointing that out so the information had a source and didn't seem like it was because I made it up. No worries, changed the snippet and will likely add some "Confirmed"s based off of the info on your site (http://dayz.gamepedia.com right?) tomorrow. I'll take it if you guys have labeled them "To Be Implemented" the info has been vetted. Love the site as well, use it lots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted February 3, 2014 No worries, changed the snippet and will likely add some "Confirmed"s based off of the info on your site (http://dayz.gamepedia.com right?) tomorrow. I'll take it if you guys have labeled them "To Be Implemented" the info has been vetted. Love the site as well, use it lots.It's not not "my" site, I just contribute to it. Not a lot of people do, though, which kind of sucks, because I find that almost all DayZ resources are incomplete at the moment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capo 323 Posted February 3, 2014 hell yeah on this thread, as long as they bring in facial bandanna and boonie i'm set. are they not thinking of adding in another bolt action rifle? cz-550 would be great, and a better scope which allows for ranging of targets. The scope from the mod cz-550 would be lovely. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elf cakes 559 Posted February 3, 2014 more zombies :-DD 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyline-gtr 130 Posted February 3, 2014 Title could perhaps use some work, changed to something about Inventory items.Not 100% on this but is it not true that in the current state of the game, alot of those bigger guns, do not go into your inventory ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 3, 2014 Title could perhaps use some work, changed to something about Inventory items.Not 100% on this but is it not true that in the current state of the game, alot of those bigger guns, do not go into your inventory ? But guns DO go into your inventory. Anything on the right side of the "Tab" screen is part of your inventory. I'll think about the title, but even then I thought I explained it well in the first few lines - sorry if you thought this was something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyline-gtr 130 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) No thats fine about the guns, it just I had heard reports to the contrary. Yeah I understand you explained it in the first few lines, thats what made me think there was something wrong with the title. edit: now that I think about it, it may have been that those guns dont fit in your backpack... edit2: Title change is great, makes a lot more sense now. :) Edited February 3, 2014 by Skyline-GTR 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaughingJack (DayZ) 767 Posted February 3, 2014 mh, I think I can help ya with a little updates WeaponsCombat Knife (Experimental Build, likely going in Feb5th)+Already in stable Crossbows (rumored)+Confirmed Bows+Confirmed Chainsaw (rumored, rumored to need gas to operate)+3D Model already in game files Molotov Cocktails/Improvised Explosives/Traps (rumored) 3D Models of craftable imrpovised butane- and improvised spray grenade already in game files Gear & Tools Watch (rumored)+3D model in game files, also confirmed GPS (rumored)+3D model in game files,but not confirmed though Binoculars (rumored)+3D model in game files, confirmed Night Vision Goggles (rumored)+3DModel already in game files, also confirmed Butane Torch (rumored)+Improvised butane grenade 3D model in game files, but single model missing, most likely to be confirmed soon Road Flares (rumored)/Flare Gun (rumored)+3DModel of Flares already in game files Food & Beverage Wild (or Game) Meat (rumored, the ability to hunt)+3D Model of deer and parts of it already in game files, also confirmed Hot Food (rumored, the ability to cook)+Confirmed For the 3D Models that are already in the game files, take a look here: http://imgur.com/a/PG47zRocket confirmed that these models are "ready to go" and some of them needed only some tweaking but they will all appear in the game sooner or later (as we saw by now, nearly half of them already made it into stable) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 3, 2014 I'd give you beans LaughingJack but I'm out for now. Off to work, but I'll update the main post tonight and likely add another colour code for the "confirmed" items you and chaingunfighter have brought to my attention. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 3, 2014 Sorry for double post, but noting that I've updated the list so that some items now read "confirmed" based on user feedback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 4, 2014 Updated with a few new items, you can find them in italic. A few weapons, weapon slings, customizable clothing for indentifiers like armbands, etc. Man do a lot of people start threads about the same subjects :O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angrybird9 32 Posted February 4, 2014 Where is my video camera with night vision ? >:( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 4, 2014 Where is my video camera with night vision ? > :( I can see that you want it - what about the community? Throw me and others the link here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 4, 2014 I'm going to drop this here too - I know I already acknowledged that this thread was like a brainstorm session, but hopefully people can see why we shouldn't have every single weapon they want in the game. Some good suggestions in this list. I think what we really need to remember is the more we ask/demand the Devs add, the worse the Loot Table Dilution is going to be. I keep mentioning this, and it is not without cause. Surely we can get by with one or two examples to fill each roll? Take shotguns for example. Right now we already have one in game, it looks like the Remington 870 is coming, and then they are adding the Blaser 97 Over/Under barrel - just not sure if the rifle or shotgun version. But if it is the shotgun version, well yes - they are three distinctive shotguns. Two have a one-two shot mode, one is a pump action. They are all shotguns however, is whether you fire from over/under or side-by-side that important? All I'm saying is, fill the roles first - no semi-automatic shotguns? I'm not even talking mil-spec, or at least not full-auto - chaingunfighter mentioned some really good options above, especially the Saiga 12 which would make a lot of sense. We have no SMG right now. We have no LMG right now. To be honest I don't know if we need either, but you can see what I'm saying. I don't think we need three more bolt-action, 5 round mag, WWII era rifles. I don't think we need a dozen different assault rifles. Once they add the AK-74M, maybe add an HK and/or an FN as another NATO based rifle. Once they add the CZ-75 pistol, maybe add in a Makarov and/or GSh-18 which are two very popular Russian-region pistols in military and police service - plus the Makarov would have had huge surplus from the Soviet-era, so I'm sure you can get one today in Eastern Europe no problem. Once the add the Ruger 10/22, maybe add another bolt-action hunting rifle like a CZ or a Remington - maybe, because don't they just fill the same roll as the Mosin? If we did all of what I suggested above, including one SMG and one LMG we are up to 14 firearms in the game. And that is not even counting the impending bows/crossbows. Surely those kinds of numbers are enough, even if we didn't use the specifically mentioned weapons? Fourteen weapons can be a lot if you are looking for a specific one of those. The other thing to keep in mind is, if you're mentioning a weapon that is not chambered in an existing caliber (or soon to be existing caliber, which will be the 5.45x39mm, 9x19mm, and .22 caliber) then we need even more ammo types. More ammo types will mean it will be that much harder to find specific ammo for the weapon you do manage to find. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) I'm going to drop this here too - I know I already acknowledged that this thread was like a brainstorm session, but hopefully people can see why we shouldn't have every single weapon they want in the game.True, but I hope the "let's only add niche weapons" ideal is only true until we have weapons filling said niche. I don't want the game to end Fallout-style with only one weapon of each type. It's gonna get annoying seeing the same guns every time you run across someone who fills a particular role (Every sniper using the Mosin-Nagant, most general players using an SKS/Ruger 10/22, etc.) Edited February 5, 2014 by Chaingunfighter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) True, but I hope the "let's only add niche weapons" ideal is only true until we have weapons filling said niche. I don't want the game to end Fallout-style with only one weapon of each type. It's gonna get annoying seeing the same guns every time you run across someone who fills a particular role (Every sniper using the Mosin-Nagant, most general players using an SKS/Ruger 10/22, etc.) For sure. I guess I should have said get a weapon in the game for the major roles, add for some of the niche roles, then fill it out with a few extras based on taste, regional accuracy, or even that old-school feeling. In your exact example, I would say let's have the Mosin, the SVD, the Ruger, and a .308 hunting rifle maybe (or appropriately chambered rifle for an ammo already in game would be even better). I would say more or less all our bases are covered unless the community has to have an anti-material rifle too. I guess if Rocket and the Super Team (not smartassery, you guys are super) get environmental damage going down the road anti-material rifles could be a lot of fun. Honestly, I think we're on the same page - not even sure why I'm posting this response lol. Edit - out of curiousity chaingunfighter, do you know if the upcoming Blaser B97 is going to be the rifle version or the shotgun version? does anyone else know for sure? I just assumed it would be the shotgun, didn't realize it could be an over/under rifle too - on the website the manufacturer seems to indicate that the shotgun version is the B95. Edited February 5, 2014 by - Karma - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 5, 2014 Updated: Removed the items that made it in with the most recent update, included some new items to be found in italics, removed last batch of new items from italics format Share this post Link to post Share on other sites