Amur Tiger in dayz?

[jona (DayZ) 61]

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[MarchHare 184]

Vicious packs of wolves and burly roaming bears?

Definitely.

Tigers?

Sure.

One per server.

[jona (DayZ) 61]

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[Whyherro123 2283]

People hear "like Russia", and they think "IS Russia".

 

People think "IS Russia", and don't realize that Russia covers 17 MILLION SQUARE KILOMETERS, and stretches across 8 different time zones.

 

Nope! 'IS Russia", so it obviously includes everything that Russia has, right!

 

Protip: Chernarus is barely big enough for a pack of wolves, much less an animal that requires hundreds of square miles as personal hunting ground.

 

Realistically, there wouldn't be all that many predators in Chernarus, at least the region we play in.

 

Quoted from myself in another thread:

 

--Which is why you sleep in a tree, and prepare all food away from your campsite.

 

People seemingly have this idea that predators have this hate-boner for humanity, that they are just waiting for us to relax our guard, and they want nothing more than to kill and eat us. This idea could not be any more incorrect, and was (and sadly, is) the reason why so many predator species in Europe and North America were next-to wiped out.

 

What are the predator species we are most likely to come across in Chernarus? Wolves and bears? Wolves want nothing less to avoid humans, and will only become aggressive if you intrude upon their territory. And aggressive, in this case, means following you and trying to scare you away. If you provoke an actual attack, they are probably more terrified than you are.

 

Similarly with bears. Most bear attacks occur either because they smelled food/etc at your campsite, came to investigate, and you startled them, or you got between them and their young. 

 

The thing is, most animals (not only predators) actively seek to avoid potentially dangerous confrontation as much as possible. Predators don't go on murder-sprees just because they can, because they know that their prey can, and WILL, fight back, and they don't want to get hurt. If you get attacked by an animal, it is literally the final and worst option available to the animal, and it means you literally ignored EVERY other option to defuse the situation. These options include making themselves known, setting dominance (staring in particular. NEVER try to stare down an animal confronting you.), and actively following you in effort to scare you off and get you to leave.

 

Plus, there is the territorial concerns. South Zagoria has about 225 square kilometers of area, and let us assume that only about 70 square kilometers of that is ocean. That leaves about 150 sq kilometers of area for animals to live, INCLUDING cities and human development. Let us lowball the area claimed by a wolfpack and a SINGULAR bear as 100 square miles (wolves, and the area is given for a wolfpack in the 48 lower US states http://www.wolf.org/...fo/wolf-faqs/#h), and for a bear is between 70 (female) and 300-500 (male) square miles per mindividual. http://westernwildlife.org/grizzly-bear-outreach-project/faqs/#a6

 

This works out to be 260 square kilometers for a wolfpacks territory, and between 181-1295 square kilometers for a female - male bear. So, we could have 1 wolfpack for the whole of South Zagoria, maybe a female bear, and not likely to come across a male one.

 

So, even if predators were likely to attack humans, we wouldn't be likely to come across one.

 

Really, the most likely aggressive animal we would come across would be packs of angry, hungry, rapidly-undomesticating dogs. Good eating on one of them!--

 

TL;DR-- If there were predators in Chernarus, they would (realistically) be there in such low numbers that we would likely not see them. And, they are unlikely to attack humans unless you deliberately piss them off.

[rybec 339]

TL;DR-- If there were predators in Chernarus, they would (realistically) be there in such low numbers that we would likely not see them. And, they are unlikely to attack humans unless you deliberately piss them off.

In Canada when I go shooting I like to walk a bit into the woods, now keep in mind this is about 100km from the closest city. Absolutely nothing out there save for a gas station (not the gasoline kind) so animals don't see people very often.

I have seen quite a few animals during my walks. Coyotes, moose, bears, no cougars or wolves, but I can definitely see their paw prints around. You're correct in that things usually see me and take off, I try to be noisy so they all know I'm around. Nothing wants to get any closer than just sating their curiosity on what you are then they leave.

When I start doing some target shooting I'm even less likely to find something than before. Animals can be pretty skittish.

 

Now when you've got so few and small forests in DayZ now, there's no way you'd have no large packs of anything wandering around. Maybe the only predator you'd see is the occasional bear looking around close to town for something to eat.

[Evil Minion 943]

Protip: Chernarus is barely big enough for a pack of wolves, much less an animal that requires hundreds of square miles as personal hunting ground.

The size of territories in wolves veries a lot. Key is not the space available but rather the amount of prey and the size of the pack in question. In this case I would simply ignore the (now basically uninhabited) cities. With enough prey animals Chernarus might be able to support as much as 4 packs of wolves tough I would reduce/vary this amount in favor of other predators like bears or feral dogs. It is true that a tiger would need a much greater territory but you might konsider South Zagoria as merely a part of this.

 

Maybe it's best to relate predator numbers to prey available: A server might spawn either a pack of wolves or a bear or some feral dogs for a certain number of deer/hogs/cows etc. So a server where players rarely hunt might support several wolf packs while another might only allow for a single bear. In any case I would avoid predator overpopulation and -aggression.

Edited May 10, 2015 by Evil Minion

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