Dean Hall & George Romero

[green_machine 179]

I think it's a shame, that gaming is part of a sub-culture. 

A culture, which has shaped people destinies... dare I say.. More-so than Movie culture, you watch a movie, it was nice wasn't it, Now carry on with your life.

You play a game and it's more than mere pixels... We've all played the games, you don't consider it a movie... it IS you. You  can't pour our heart and soul into a movie character. But with Gaming....

Now you know why, I Consider Dean Hall, a synthetic brother of George Romero. Both reshaped Gaming / Movies. 

Dean, please have a chat with George. Share what the zombie experience is, There should not be tension.

You're not just a Modder, Dean, You're in the big leagues. No shame in asking for advice.  



 

[Zollicoffer 200]

Are you high?

[blurhitz 244]

Are you high?

[Electi 149]

Dafuq i just read? And who thoce ppl you are writing about? Some weired names....names Jason...what do they mean!?

Edited January 18, 2014 by Electi

[wild_man 4442]

Davez you need to put new filter on the brain to control what you thinking and separate out no sense things from what is ok for saying in public :huh:

[SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747]

Are you high?

 

^ LOL.

 

 

 

Don't know about you OP but characters I play in a game are not "me." I shut off the game, I'm still just me. I'm not suddenly some paramilitary zombie-killing survivalist. I still go to work and do normal things. I think you need to take a break from the games, bro. They're messing with your head.

[Tyrael75 (DayZ) 21]

I think it's a shame, that gaming is part of a sub-culture. 

A culture, which has shaped people destinies... dare I say.. More-so than Movie culture, you watch a movie, it was nice wasn't it, Now carry on with your life.

You play a game and it's more than mere pixels... We've all played the games, you don't consider it a movie... it IS you. You  can't pour our heart and soul into a movie character. But with Gaming....

Now you know why, I Consider Dean Hall, a synthetic brother of George Romero. Both reshaped Gaming / Movies. 

Dean, please have a chat with George. Share what the zombie experience is, There should not be tension.

You're not just a Modder, Dean, You're in the big leagues. No shame in asking for advice.  

 

The "zombies" in DayZ are not "zombies" they're rage induced humans, something more or less like 28 days/weeks later.

[3rdparty 229]

I think this post by SausageKingofChicago is unintentionally relevant.

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/115604-just-saw-rocket-again/
 

[Deathlove 2286]

Dafuq i just read? And who thoce ppl you are writing about? Some weired names....names Jason...what do they mean!?

George Romero is one of the original movie directors for the zombies that has shaped zombies the way they are and pictured in western culture such as Night Of the Living, Dead Dawn Of The Dead, etc.

[green_machine 179]

ok, maybe you're all right. 

[Deathlove 2286]

The "zombies" in DayZ are not "zombies" they're rage induced humans, something more or less like 28 days/weeks later.

To be honest the ones in the first movie were pictured as more of what you said HOWEVER if you watched 28 Weeks latter they moved more forward to zombies rather than infected. I mean ppl got there throats ripped out and came back to life or eaten and killed than resurrected. That and torsos and shit were ripped off and they would still come at you.

[libertine 351]

[Jamz 253]

Before Romero's Night Of The Living Dead in 1968, zombies were portrayed as subservient slaves and they had no taste for human flesh. He made the undead an ironic reflection of modern society and a global threat to rival the cold war. If not for him none of this would exist (technically, DayZ has more in common with 28 Days Later but this runs parallel to zombie lore).

Although DayZ differs slightly from Romero's vision at the moment, I think when the zombies reach their projected numbers it could fall in line with it.

[Deathlove 2286]

Before Romero's Night Of The Living Dead in 1968, zombies were portrayed as subservient slaves and they had no taste for human flesh. He made the undead an ironic reflection of modern society and a global threat to rival the cold war. If not for him none of this would exist (technically, DayZ has more in common with 28 Days Later but this runs parallel to zombie lore).

Although DayZ differs slightly from Romero's vision at the moment, I think when the zombies reach their projected numbers it could fall in line with it.

At least SOME ppl know there zombie lore on here. Christ some ppl seem to think 28 days latter defined how zombies react. Yeah it made faster versions for future games to follow but its the ones from Romero's movies that fleshed the lore into something more lethal.

[Zollicoffer 200]

Stop talking about George Romero please. He has no place on these forums.

[Jamz 253]

I think the 'infected' idea suits games most at the moment for several reasons. It sidesteps the problem of resurrection of players, it enables an easy explanation of the situation, it removes the need for headshots and it requires a tiny fraction of the numbers that Romero's undead would be present in. If DayZ followed Romero's vision directly it would be far more difficult to survive in game. Perhaps DayZ 2...?

[green_machine 179]

Before Romero's Night Of The Living Dead in 1968, zombies were portrayed as subservient slaves and they had no taste for human flesh. He made the undead an ironic reflection of modern society and a global threat to rival the cold war. If not for him none of this would exist (technically, DayZ has more in common with 28 Days Later but this runs parallel to zombie lore).

Although DayZ differs slightly from Romero's vision at the moment, I think when the zombies reach their projected numbers it could fall in line with it.

It was years ago, back then, it was portrayed as a religious instigation to the masses, "When there's no room in heavan, the dead will walk the earth", (I feel anyway)

 

The term ZOMBIE has been twisted to whatever means, to achieve a goal., In DayZ terms: It's simplifying the enemy, chemical or biological.

   Sorry for saying, but DAYZ will always be about ZOMBIES. 

I don't think that even Dean Hall himself can shake off the word zombie, which symbolises George Romero's vision. Which is why I think it would be cool if Dean and George had a chat about DayZ

Edited January 19, 2014 by DaveZ

[Jamz 253]

It was years ago, back then, it was portrayed as a religious instigation to the masses, "When there's no room in heavan, the dead will walk the earth", (I feel anyway)

 

The term ZOMBIE has been twisted to whatever means, to achieve a goal., In DayZ terms: It's simplifying the enemy, chemical or biological.

   Sorry for saying, but DAYZ will always be about ZOMBIES. 

I don't think that even Dean Hall himself can shake off the word zombie, which symbolises George Romero's vision. Which is why I think it would be cool if Dean and George had a chat about DayZ

 

True, the term 'zombie' has changed over the years, to me it will always be intrinsically linked to Romero's vision. More so that than its Haiti religious slavery origins or the 'Plague Of The Zombies' animated husks.

Your Quote (although in the film it referred to Hell being full) to me added a biblical slant to the event, I suspect being partly responsible for the modern zombie's conception by Romero. Fulci incorporated this too. I like it as I think it makes the whole thing more tangible.

One day who knows, maybe they will meet. I suspect Romero would be impressed with the game too...

[Jonah_Hobbes 171]

No matter how much I love Romero I'd caution some sort of meet up. His last projects, I know funding is an issue, have been weak and I don' t think he is adding anything new to the concept of the undead. His films used to be mirrors to hold up to the face of society his latter stuff far less so.

 

It's actually sad that Dan O'Bannon is not around. Return of the Living Dead is a masterpiece, (lets face it "brains" made it into the mainstream). Fulci and Argento are somewhat overrated IMO and although some films are fun they never left me with the same satisfaction as Romero, O'Bannon or John Carpenter.

 

Carpenter is one of the most underrated directors alive - The Thing probably shares the award for the best horror film ever made with Dawn of the Dead. Again Carpenter's latter works have been weak like Romero's. I think it has been a tragedy that Hollywood was so short sighted as to not back these guys in their prime.

 

Gaming isn't a subculture anymore and hasn't been since Laura Croft and WOW.  if you don't agree just look at the last 10 years of Hollywood blockbusters - many have taken or based their ideas on games. Sub culture has gone mainstream look at comic books and graphic novels.

 

Sorry honorable mention to Peter Jackson - BrainDead anyone?? Fantastic.

 

This whole zombie thing?

 

From what I remember George would have used "Living Dead" but had an agreement with O'Bannon not to use it. Dan used it himself which was cool. I think Romero accepted the whole zombie thing cuse it got him funding and why not?

Edited January 20, 2014 by Jonah_Hobbes

[Shortbus (DayZ) 2]

GR never once referred to his creatures as zombies.  It was a metaphor for commercialism.   Mindless consuming shell of a human being.  

 

 

 

Op is hi as fuck.

[Polarghost 4]

What's with all these casuals on the forums lately? It's like everyone who complained about WarZ decided to try out SA and brought their forum rage with them to the SA Forums.

[gamer222 86]

John Carpenter is much better than George Romero....

[Jonah_Hobbes 171]

GR never once referred to his creatures as zombies.  It was a metaphor for commercialism.   Mindless consuming shell of a human being.  

 

 

 

Op is hi as fuck.

agree

[Jonah_Hobbes 171]

John Carpenter is much better than George Romero....

 

 

I'd have to agree about actually putting movies together - Carpenter is head and shoulders above GAR. But for sheer scale of vision then George just hit the nail on the head and got the zeigest, (stupid term), totally right.

 

 I watched DoftD on Betamax for the first time close to 8 years after the movie was made when I was about 10. I watched it to death and got the message pretty much 2 or 3 viewings in.

 

OK the 80's were an age when I reckon kids where a bit more clued up on politics - impending death through nuclear destruction will do that. But I think DoftD is a beautiful movie and made zombies zombies. If JC had not existed then we would have lost my fav horror flim. But if G.A.R had not lived then we wouldn't be playing Dayz.

Edited January 20, 2014 by Jonah_Hobbes

[gamer222 86]

But then we would play the thing in open snowy world....