Night time servers--- THE BEST SERVERS

[Maca (DayZ) 769]

Despite the gamma cheat the night servers are always empty. I stay on the night servers a lot, although I don't jack up the gamma/brightness. I take my chances with my flashlight and try to use it only when absolutely needed.

I do sincerely hope they add realistic night lighting (from the moon/stars) so people don't have to use the gamma/brightness deal.

But yeah, night servers are great. I'm glad they're implementing the ability to tell which servers are on night cycle from the server menu.

Totally agree I've had many a great adventure on night servers and as you stated they could tweak the darkness, just a little.

Even last night I happened to lose my bearings (for 2 hours+) in the darkness and I was tempted too open up the menu and adjust my "gamma & brightness. But I taught to myself what's the point, all I'll be doing is taking away the difficulty and experience of traversing across Chernarus. Hope they add flares into the patch after this one.

If you're just hopping into a night server to gear up, then you're missing the point of DayZ, but this seems to be the norm at the moment. As the OP has clearly point out.

Trying too figure out where the hell I'm at? God I love the head torch.

Finally I find a house but the doors open, paranoia sets in.

After a heart pounding journey I finally find a place to hold up for the night.

[DoxHoliday 51]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but every night server I've been on has a full moon. This makes nighttime servers incredibly fun because of several factors.... I CAN ACTUALLY SEE THINGS!!!

Not well, but I can actually make out trees, towns and other things instead of just playing as though my monitor was off. No offense to the ARMA guys or the DayZ SA team, but while a moonless night without powered cities does look blacker than ink, it's not a fun experience to actually play in. As is you either have to switch servers or hunker in a spot until light... again, realistic but not necessarily fun. This may easily change if you could build shelters and more easily create light sources, but as is nighttime really is just simulating a broken monitor if the moon isn't out.

Edit: even with full mmoon you still get the flashlight experience because inside buildings you can't see squat so it's still intense.

 

/agree - moonlit nights are great. No gamma exploits, can see *kinda* well enough to navigate around and loot if the buildings have windows (barracks/jail/atc tower). And if you end up taking fire, muzzle flash will really stand out.

Edited January 20, 2014 by DoxHoliday

[somethingbloody 118]

We were checking out the new settlements west of the NW strip and decided take our chances and run to the strip to check out tent city. As we were running we noticed that the colour had gotten really vibrant and nice. I looked and noticed that the sun was behind us, and realised that the sun was in the west, actually setting. It just kept getting prettier from there. The clouds were pink as we prepared to go into tent city.

Once night actually started to fall, everything turned grainy monochrome and and it looked awful. I used my head torch that I had been saving for this occasion and the angle is a bit off, it points below where you are looking. I was really excited to play during night-time and the extra tension was nice, but the lighting engine is pretty rubbish for it. I really hope that the guys who did Arma 3's night lighting get on board.

[Space Milk 195]

It is an exploit if one uses it to have the advantage over other players, just like any exploit. Even with a full moon people who use the gamma thing want that advantage rather than playing like their supposed to. It needs to be fixed somehow, maybe having no option to shut off certain graphic values.

 

I like playing in game at night but the thought of others exploiting the gamma thing is disturbing. They try to justify it by any means possible but it's mostly just to have that advantage.

On full moon nights you don't need gamma, just HDR , and no clouds or shadows, though gamma helps.

Without HDR you are blind as a bat.

So you are telling me, people who have a cheap computer and are unable to get HDR, vs people who have good HDR and no shadows/clouds, are victims of a exploit.

Turning up gamma is not a exploit.

In daytime one can tweak their settings to give them advantages, such as low alpha, no post peocessing.

Night time if people have good computer they get nice settings and people with cheap computers cannot, people with HDR are exploiters.

An exploit, in video games, is the use of a bug or glitches, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.

Does not include settings, if it does, a whole lot more people would be considered exploiters, maybe even you.

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

Well a way to discourage gamma exploiting would be to move the gamma setting in a different configuration section that can only be accessed while on the main menu of the game, when not connected to a server. Games usually give you grey numbers or another visual example to let you easily setup your gamma to the right value for the game, its not like you need to see the game itself to get your gamma adjusted properly.

[twingunz 308]

This post makes me sad and is largely why me no play le night time servers :(

[Greaves 131]

I want them to fix the gamma exploit even more than i want binoculars, and that says something.

 

I only experienced a full-moon night once, and it was beautiful. Especially the sunset, the game looks completely different. And when night sets in, everyting is twice as tense. So awesome. I have faith in you, BI.

Edited January 20, 2014 by Greaves

[BrainlessZombie 190]

... An exploit, in video games, is the use of a bug or glitches, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.

Does not include settings, if it does, a whole lot more people would be considered exploiters, maybe even you.

 

You exploit and encourage exploiting, I hope they fix this and then maybe you will stop being such a bad player.

[irl-calibre 744]

without doubt given the adjustments that the player can make to settings in the game you can tweak the most atmospheric nights which are very playable. Can others exploit that? yeah they can, but I couldn't care less, it's like stressing over people running uber low settings to gain frames / advantage always going to happen so why worry? the same people whp won't play at night are the same people who wouldn't play at night when there  were NVG's & Thermal scopes. fear.. fear of meeting someone with an advantage.  Death comes to all, embrace the experience.

[Sutinen 635]

i never really understood why things like shadows and HDR where optional, they are settings that fundamentally affect how a game look and how players perceive eachothers, i don't think you should ever be able to turn shadows, grass or HDR completely off if you want to ensure some sort of visual baseline from player to player.

Yep, I now actually can run SA very smoothly with shadows on and all (Unlike ArmA2) and I was surprised how much forests change. Definitely makes it harder to spot a guy in a shady forest. And I really like it, completely bright forests look horrible.

[Nebulae3 422]

I cannot see anything at night just stars so I will easy get lost without a map & compass.

I won't bother to adjust video setting, because it feels like cheating. ))

 

-Ori

[Space Milk 195]

You exploit and encourage exploiting, I hope they fix this and then maybe you will stop being such a bad player.

You probably exploit too.

[komadose 190]

i once looted one certain building at night servers with only a flashlight (no gamma shit). i made sure it was empty and started collecting stuff. after a short while of moving back and forth in the building i turned around one corner where i had previously already visited and my light cone illuminated another player standing still behind that corner. i was scared shitless.

Edited January 20, 2014 by komadose

[BrainlessZombie 190]

You probably exploit too.

 

'Yeah well... Your shoes are ugly and your momma is fat!' <- That's how you sound.

 

Other than to increase your number of posts, how did that serve to the topic in discussion? Or makes you less of a cheater and bad player?

 

Your logic is bad, and you should feel bad.

 

Enjoy exploiting while you can, i'm out of here.

Edited January 20, 2014 by BrainlessZombie

[pteryx 14]

You exploit and encourage exploiting, I hope they fix this and then maybe you will stop being such a bad player.

 

You're right, they should fix it.  By adjusting it so that you can see at night, similar to you know, real life.  Until then I'll adjust it myself, with the settings.

[deewd22 32]

'Yeah well... Your shoes are ugly and your momma is fat!' <- That's how you sound.

Other than to increase your number of posts, how did that serve to the topic in discussion? Or makes you less of a cheater and bad player?

Your logic is bad, and you should feel bad.

Enjoy exploiting while you can, i'm out of here.

Your post is more terrible than his and completely away from discussion.

Adjusting your gfx is an exploit? What about crappy computers? If you mean that serious all guys with low gfx are exploiting. Low gfx guys cry about HE gfx guys because of higher FPS.

I'm sure when performance gets improved devs will think about some fixed settings like clouds at least at minimum, shadows(draw distance is another thing) at minimum etc.

Rocket promised: everyone who was able to play the mod will be able to play the standalone" and he was right with that.

[War Path 26]

even if the in game gamma and brightness are set to not be ajusted you can overide the games  gamma via your vid card settings..as for complaining that people are exploiting the gamma i ajust it in daylight depending on how well my eyes are acting  some days are better than others  heh

[Whyherro123 2283]

One major problem is the fact that most nights are unrealistically dark. Every summer, I work at a Scout camp that is easily 20=20 miles away from the closest town. When the Sun goes down, it gets DARK. However, I am only impaired for about 20 minutes, until my eyes adjust. 

[deewd22 32]

One major problem is the fact that most nights are unrealistically dark. Every summer, I work at a Scout camp that is easily 20=20 miles away from the closest town. When the Sun goes down, it gets DARK. However, I am only impaired for about 20 minutes, until my eyes adjust.

20 miles away from a town is not very much. You would be surprised how dark your camp would be if there would be no electricity nearby (100km).

Imho (some)nights are way to dark and not enjoyable to play alone.

[Irenicus (DayZ) 289]

Looted at a night server, the NWAF and military bases by it.

Best loot ever.

Turn up your gamma, brightness, turn off shadows clouds, make sure HDR is on low, plus flashlight, makes night bearable.

Since no one goes at night, then you get great loot.

Turning off clouds actually makes your game darker. Haven't tested the effect at night but it definitely makes things darker during the day. This was done deliberately actually, to prevent people using no clouds as an exploit

[Irenicus (DayZ) 289]

DayZ night is surreal. It's summer time, but nights are pitch black. Here in Finland we have as dark nights only at winter, when there's no moon or stars giving light. Maybe Chernarus is actually near equator? I have understood that nights there are about as dark as in this game. Some future patch will give us lions and elephants to make it more authentic...

Sorry but Finland is very far north and of course your nights are not as dark in the summer because the sun barely dips below the horizon. However even in Scotland which is pretty far north of the equator, nights are always pitch black even in summer. Not as black as the game though, it's really not realistic

[GoldenKade 73]

Indeed. The OP even encourages gamma exploitation. I don't see any point in playing night time servers if you just cheat to make it bright day again. The only reason to exploit like that would be to get the advantage over players that doesn't do it. I prefer a level playing field in that regard, and thus stay away from night time altogether.

It may be just me, but the only way for night to be playable anymore is with the gamma glitch.

I barely make out my own character and everything else is colored black except for the sky - I still use a flashlight because my vision is so shitty.

 

IRL I can see outside perfectly given 5 minutes of staying out there and allowing for my eyes to adjust.

[GoldenKade 73]

20 miles away from a town is not very much. You would be surprised how dark your camp would be if there would be no electricity nearby (100km).

Imho (some)nights are way to dark and not enjoyable to play alone.

Unless there are clouds blocking starlight and moonlight, it's not that dark unless you're the kind of person who needs a dog and a seeing cane....

[deewd22 32]

It may be just me, but the only way for night to be playable anymore is with the gamma glitch.

I barely make out my own character and everything else is colored black except for the sky - I still use a flashlight because my vision is so shitty.

IRL I can see outside perfectly given 5 minutes of staying out there and allowing for my eyes to adjust.

The way it is is realistic!! Guys there's no civilisation and electricity anymore in dayz. So nights are generally a bit darker. Of course there are brighter and there are darker nights(in dayz too).

I doubt hard that all the guys here who said they can "perfectly" see after some time at night ever have been in the dark and tested it out.

At night all cats are/see grey ;) (cannot explain the medical/biological part because english is not my native language and I only had two years of english at school(some time ago))

Why don't you go to the military? They would save a lot of money for NVGs, if they had you

Edited January 30, 2014 by deewd22

[Space Milk 195]

'Yeah well... Your shoes are ugly and your momma is fat!' <- That's how you sound.

 

Other than to increase your number of posts, how did that serve to the topic in discussion? Or makes you less of a cheater and bad player?

 

Your logic is bad, and you should feel bad.

 

Enjoy exploiting while you can, i'm out of here.

 

 

Apparently you did not read my previous posts, or really understood them.  I made the statement that this is not a exploit and provided the definition for it.  Then I said, if exploit does encompass this, then it would mean encompassing many common things that people use everyday as exploits.  You cannot make a exception when it comes to definitions.  It is or it isn't. 

I stated a few things that would be considered exploits.  Skyping, can also fall under the tag exploiting if you consider this a exploit.  

You said it was still a exploit and I am promoting exploits.  I responded with my last statement because if the definition of exploit in your opinion includes this, then it would include several other common things, that likely you have or are doing right now while playing DayZ.

 

The only thing you have contributed to this thread is protesting the use of settings purposely given by the devs for a advantage.  This thread was to inform people how night servers are places of good loot because no one goes there.  Your posts have nothing to do with this at all.

 

Do I think this needs to be fixed? Yes, but it still isn't a exploit.