BattlEye Bans?

[assassinofkings151 38]

Ok then, this will be an interesting topic because in definition it will separate the useful people on the forum from those who seek to purely be an ass.

 

I have been on this forum for a year now (only just registering in Early December) and every time I have seen threads associated with BattlEye global bans despite the Op's reasoning of not being  slimy hacker, every single one has been shot down. Now I understand this fully as the mod itself was broken in terms of its protection against hacks up until anti-hack scripts were introduced especially on private hives, meaning there were many liars among the sheep herd. But in terms of the SA its a little bit of a different landscape now due to the development of BattlEye only recently joining us once again (I say "meh" to this action)

 

As of today, one of my friends was globally banned by BattlEye today spontaneously for no apparent reason. I play with this guy every day and a few others and we always do things by the book, no hacking involved obviously. The only thing I know of is that he said he downloaded a FPS Increase tool for DayZ in hopes of raising his FPS in cities and towns and points towards the only reason he could have been hacked in some way or another, I seriously have no clue.

 

However, Does DayZ Use the CD Key system the Mod used?? when I right-click on it in my Steam Library there's no option to "View CD Key" which makes me think that it couldn't have been a classic CD Key Theft and then used by a hacker.

 

He's emailed BattlEye and is awaiting a response, if any of you guys could help with any reasoning for this sort of ban (obv hacking is a reason) or if you choose not to help but sit in scepticism of the claims my friend is not a hacker then id rather you answer my question about CD Keys and how they work in the SA (if they even exist that is...)

 

Thanks for reading,

 

Miles

 

 

[Target Practice (DayZ) 1335]

Ok then, this will be an interesting topic because in definition it will separate the useful people on the forum from those who seek to purely be an ass.

 

I have been on this forum for a year now (only just registering in Early December) and every time I have seen threads associated with BattlEye global bans despite the Op's reasoning of not being  slimy hacker, every single one has been shot down. Now I understand this fully as the mod itself was broken in terms of its protection against hacks up until anti-hack scripts were introduced especially on private hives, meaning there were many liars among the sheep herd. But in terms of the SA its a little bit of a different landscape now due to the development of BattlEye only recently joining us once again (I say "meh" to this action)

 

As of today, one of my friends was globally banned by BattlEye today spontaneously for no apparent reason. I play with this guy every day and a few others and we always do things by the book, no hacking involved obviously. The only thing I know of is that he said he downloaded a FPS Increase tool for DayZ in hopes of raising his FPS in cities and towns and points towards the only reason he could have been hacked in some way or another, I seriously have no clue.

 

However, Does DayZ Use the CD Key system the Mod used?? when I right-click on it in my Steam Library there's no option to "View CD Key" which makes me think that it couldn't have been a classic CD Key Theft and then used by a hacker.

 

He's emailed BattlEye and is awaiting a response, if any of you guys could help with any reasoning for this sort of ban (obv hacking is a reason) or if you choose not to help but sit in scepticism of the claims my friend is not a hacker then id rather you answer my question about CD Keys and how they work in the SA (if they even exist that is...)

 

Thanks for reading,

 

Miles

 

Yes, I believe that DayZ still uses a CD-key system, even if you don't have the ability to view it through Steam. Sounds like that 'FPS booster' has nabbed it and someone's then bought it and got banned while using it.

 

Whether Battleye are able to help or not, your friend is probably going to have to do a serious deep-clean on his system before he buys another copy/activates the new key. And be sure to have a strong word with him about being stupid enough to download something like that in the first place. That's the internet equivalent of taking candy from strangers, for crying out loud.

[assassinofkings151 38]

Yes, I believe that DayZ still uses a CD-key system, even if you don't have the ability to view it through Steam. Sounds like that 'FPS booster' has nabbed it and someone's then bought it and got banned while using it.

 

Whether Battleye are able to help or not, your friend is probably going to have to do a serious deep-clean on his system before he buys another copy/activates the new key. And be sure to have a strong word with him about being stupid enough to download something like that in the first place. That's the internet equivalent of taking candy from strangers, for crying out loud.

 

Thanks for the reply,ill make sure to sit down and have a word with him haha 

[Mos1ey 6301]

I was under the impression that DayZ did not use a CD-key system and the account was tied directly to your Steam account. I could be wrong though.

 

Edit:

 

BattlEye coming to DayZ [ 04.01.2014 • 15:05 ]

Bohemia Interactive a.s. has contracted with BattlEye Innovations to integrate BattlEye into its popular DayZ standalone game released just a few weeks ago.

It's important to note that like in Arma 3 the removal of cd-keys from DayZ will mean that BattlEye is finally able to effectively ban cheaters from the game.

 

http://www.battleye.com/

Edited January 13, 2014 by Mos1ey

[Target Practice (DayZ) 1335]

I was under the impression that DayZ did not use a CD-key system and the account was tied directly to your Steam account. I could be wrong though.

 

Edit:

 

BattlEye coming to DayZ [ 04.01.2014 • 15:05 ]

Bohemia Interactive a.s. has contracted with BattlEye Innovations to integrate BattlEye into its popular DayZ standalone game released just a few weeks ago.

It's important to note that like in Arma 3 the removal of cd-keys from DayZ will mean that BattlEye is finally able to effectively ban cheaters from the game.

 

http://www.battleye.com/

 

Oh, my bad then - I knew that the pre-alpha test copies were given out via cd-keys, so I just figured that was the case.

[Andarne (DayZ) 84]

The plot thickens...

 

Do we know how BattlEye works in conjunction with VAC? Will appeals have to go to both, or just one?

[Mos1ey 6301]

Oh, my bad then - I knew that the pre-alpha test copies were given out via cd-keys, so I just figured that was the case.

 

Nah, they were just Steam keys. Similar to what you used to get when you bought games via Humble Bundle.

 

You redeem the key via the Steam key and then it's added to your library.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Mos1ey

[gaint 80]

is "FPS Booster" a synonym for "ESP" and "Aimbot"?

hack0rz gonna hack.... haters gonna hate...

[Mos1ey 6301]

is "FPS Booster" a synonym for "ESP" and "Aimbot"?

hack0rz gonna hack.... haters gonna hate...

 

Could be. I've had a few friends get banned, make excuses and then it turns out that they were in fact cheating in various games over the years.

[dallas 5195]

"Downloading a FPS booster" sounds like a very risky proposition.

[lumo1234 68]

 

 

WARNING: Massive cd-key theft going on [ 29.08.2012 • 17:00 ] As already mentioned in the previous news post, there is currently a massive ongoing effort by certain entities to steal people's cd-keys to then sell them for a profit. Private hack forums are full of posts of these fraudsters trying to sell heaps of cd-keys for a cheap price. We are talking about hundreds of cd-keys here, so this is not a small issue at all. The game developers confirmed that this is a huge problem right now.

Their process of stealing cd-keys is quite simple: They advertise a supposedly undetected hack on sites like YouTube and the moment you download and run it (it will probably report that the hack failed to load) your cd-key is already stolen. In many cases your actual cd-key in registry is overwritten with a banned one, so you will automatically receive a global ban message on join (see below). This is done to prevent you from using your cd-key again, so the fraudsters can sell them claiming that they are valid and not in use. Note that this can be fixed (temporarily) by deleting the cd-key from the registry and reinstalling your game. While your original cd-key is not banned due to this, it might very well end up being soon when your cd-key is being used by a cheater that purchased it. This causes many players to think they were innocently banned when in fact their cd-key was stolen and used for cheating. At the very least you will often receive a "CD key in use" message when trying to connect to servers.

If you think this is false propaganda to cover up supposed false global bans I advise you to do some research on this yourself. You can easily verify this by searching for "free ***" on YouTube. You will see lots of results and almost all of them are scams. Most of them are actually quite popular and have thousands of views. When downloading them and opening the .exe file in e.g. Notepad (warning: do not actually run the .exe!), you can find cd-key related strings such as "SOFTWARE\Bohemia Interactive Studio\ArmA 2 OA" (the registry location of the cd-key) inside.

In short, heed the following: DO NOT EVER RUN ANY HACKS OR OTHER SUSPICIOUS SOFTWARE! If you end up being banned due to your cd-key being stolen there is nothing we can do for you.

 

Copied from the battle eye website. Even if your friend did think he was just using an "fps enhancer" (lols btw) this is probably the case of what happened.

[Gandolaf 81]

I guess the FPS part means "First-Person-shooter" booster instead of frames per second.

[Baarn 53]

That FPS-Booster thing sounds very fishy. Why do people trust third party software that possibly messes with their game or even the rest of their computer?

You wont download CreditCardFishing.exe, but when it is MakeGameAwesomeFast.exe it is legit?

 

Your friend should send that tool to BattlEye, too, for them to check. But I guess his account is lost...

Edited January 13, 2014 by Baarn

[byrgesen 1341]

Copied from the battle eye website. Even if your friend did think he was just using an "fps enhancer" (lols btw) this is probably the case of what happened.

 

This is for Arma 2, where you actually had a CD-key that matters.

In DayZ we do not have keys, we have a steam account, where the game is bound to.

I was under the impression they did this to prevent this exact issue and therefor its "impossible" to steal a key from DayZ SA. You actually have to steal an entire steam account.

This is also the reason they want VAC, to be able to ban people from steam, if BE bans arent enough in the future.

 

Back to the topic:

You also have to understand BE in DayZ works in conjuction with BE for Arma 3, so if you do something stupid in A3 and get banned, a DayZ ban will be waiting around the corner.

This is, at least, the way ive always understood it, and we have seen people getting baan in DayZ because of cheating in A3.

 

But ive never heard about an actual cd-key for DayZ SA, its bound to your steam account/ID and it cannot be moved or deleted (like 99% other steam games btw)

 

So your friend could be a false positive, or he could have been doing bad things in A3 perhaps.

Perhaps the "FPS tool" is on some kind of list, like Warden in WOW, so if you run this program next to your game you get banned, simple as that.

BE does check your running processes while you are playing, so keep that in mind

BE should be able to give you a specific reason for it.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Byrgesen

[Firstbornchicken 34]

A company should always be vary when using such tools as BattleEye.

Automatic bans due to flags, etc, can and will end in false positives. 

 

I think an alpha mode is far to early to introduce such a tool. I remember the good old days of VAC banning entire servers because the host was speedhacking (In counter-strike)

 

What safety can you give me that if i, or a friend, is banned, that the ban is a legit offence, or if it is due to a bug or desync from the server? a server running a very unstable game in alpha.

 

Alpha is to fragile a place to run such a powerful anti cheat tool tbh

Edited January 13, 2014 by Firstbornchicken

[dallas 5195]

I guess a FPS booster could potentially remove grass, trees and buildings to increase FPS. Anyways downloading an unofficial FPS booster, sounds like a fast way to get in trouble one way or another.

[Baarn 53]

In DayZ we do not have keys, we have a steam account, where the game is bound to.

I was under the impression they did this to prevent this exact issue and therefor its "impossible" to steal a key from DayZ SA. You actually have to steal an entire steam account.

 

BattlEye detects software that messes around in the memory of the computer, probably not every software that does it, but popular software they have signatures on.

Your Steam Account and Password are very likely in memory, maybe even on your harddrive (if you clicked "remember password")

Dumping the complete memory isn't really a problem if you run everything in windows with admin rights, and a lot of people do it. So stealing a Steam Account should not be much different from stealing a CD-Key, once you have read access to the memory.

[frosti 2165]

Looks like your friend got...boosted B)

[wild_man 4442]

if company offer something for free you need to do some investigate :|

 

they say they give extra FPS you need to ask how they doing and why is for free? :huh:

 

go to this forums or reddit or good reputation tech forums and ask 'do I trust?'

 

any guy who putting software on his pc but don't know for sure what is in some way he deserve to learn hard lesson :|

 

this time was game key next time could be much worse things happen

 

tell friend to have pc deep clean by expert BEFORE HE BUY NEW GAME  :|

Edited January 13, 2014 by KoS

[deebz1234 243]

wow...

 

I dont think they can help your friend either...just buy another copy. From what I remember reading it was your own dumb fault if you lost your DayZ cd key.

 

if your friend likes click random things on the internet, or wants to download some more shit. I found this wonderful program you can download and you just put your paypal info in and it sends you money instantly..its pretty legit

 

:)

[byrgesen 1341]

BattlEye detects software that messes around in the memory of the computer, probably not every software that does it, but popular software they have signatures on.

Your Steam Account and Password are very likely in memory, maybe even on your harddrive (if you clicked "remember password")

Dumping the complete memory isn't really a problem if you run everything in windows with admin rights, and a lot of people do it. So stealing a Steam Account should not be much different from stealing a CD-Key, once you have read access to the memory.

 

But this is where the steam security comes in play, because if it is "this simple" steam would be out of business lol.

So no, it isnt really that simple, if it was nobody would use steam by now, coz it would be a giant problem :)

 

And to clarify, BE doesnt not read your memory, it reads your current running processes (much like Warden in WOW) to see if you are running illegal 3rd party software :)

And then its scanning your client constantly, to make sure you dont do something you arent allowed to do.

We can compare this to Warden in WOW, sure it was possible to cheat and to bot alot in WOW, but the reason it was so damn easy was because the software you were using was "masked" from Warden, so it never saw it running in the first place.

This is where the "cat after mouse"-playtime starts. Warden found a way to see the software running, mass ban rolled out, software got updated to mask it self better, warden didnt see it again.

BE works in a very similar way, when it comes to checking running processes, but it also check every single thing you are doing in game, and i mean EVERYTHING.

So basicly, if you are doing something BE is configured to "not-allow" boom, you get a kick and it gets reported to the logs.

Could be an error in the BE filters or could be a serious security issue, you cannot find out until you start reading the logs and understand what people did :)

Edited January 13, 2014 by Byrgesen

[AllDayZSimon 75]

Copied from the battle eye website. Even if your friend did think he was just using an "fps enhancer" (lols btw) this is probably the case of what happened.

 

 

FPS Boost is a real thing - What it does is manage background applications to make a selected program use more memory while turning others such as explorer.exe to a lower usage.

[wild_man 4442]

FPS Boost is a real thing - What it does is manage background applications to make a selected program use more memory while turning others such as explorer.exe to a lower usage.

is true

but also there is many fake FPS boost software in fact doing nothing only steal informations like game key etc :D

[deebz1234 243]

FPS Boost is a real thing - What it does is manage background applications to make a selected program use more memory while turning others such as explorer.exe to a lower usage.

and an excellent premise to hide a cd key stealer

or even a legit program with a key stealer inside

[Firstbornchicken 34]

and an excellent premise to hide a cd key stealer

or even a legit program with a key stealer inside

 

 

Yet, the FPS booster being the malware here, is only speculation.

 

A lot of people use FPS boosters for their older PC¨s, can they safely do so? or does the anti cheat software deem it a cheat?