Beards confirmed in Dayz SA

[DeatHTaX 1217]

What do you call a man without a beard?

A woman ;)

 

[Calvin Candie 189]

How and where in the hell do you shave in the apocalypse?? Do i go on scavenging runs and pick up shaving cream and razor on the way?? I never could get this. Why fucking shave? Its not like you will be attending any important meetings anytime soon...

Edited January 21, 2015 by Calvin Candie

[Beizs 186]

Tell me, how does a head of hair and a beard protect you from cold and the rain? Yeah yeah, your face is warm. That won't stop hypothermia.

 

I just don't understand the mania about beards and facial hair. They aren't "SUPPER AWESOME FUKKEN YAEH GUY".  They are....just facial hair. Nothing special. Some people like it, some people don't.

 

Yet the above players portray the coming of beards like it is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

Beard hair (as well as hair when it's not been washed with shampoo and conditioner for a while) is water resistant. This means that it doesn't get too saturated, which means that water isn't against your skin and drawing heat from your body through evaporation.

 

Beard hair provides a layer of insulation on your face, stopping heat from escaping (long hair does this for your head, too).

 

Beard hair breaks the wind chill factor (which, again, is due to evaporation of moisture from your skin). This, again, keeps you warm.

 

It's a fact that beards are beneficial in keeping you warm and protecting you from the elements. Personally, I'd not really want a beard as I just prefer to be clean shaven (or with a little stubble), but the benefits are undeniable.

[nuggit 246]

I....don't?

 

I dislike how they feel. I dislike how itchy they are. I dislike how they look. Plus, my facial hair grows in two colors (Irish), so it looks like my face is dirty until it gets long enough, which, coupled with the above, leads me to shave pretty much every other day.

 

Problem? I am no less a man than you are because I dislike something you like.

 

Hey dude, this thread made me bite.

 

I HAVE to shave everyday, due to work and my profession. I feckn HATE it, with a deep fiery passion. Due to shaving everyday, it causes the regrowth to come back with a vengeance. I shaved this morning and by this afternoon, the regrowth cycle has already begun and the hair is coming back.

This causes a very uncomfortable feeling for me including prickly skin, irritation and sometimes a heard of pimples due to the skin being irritated constantly. Now, if allowed the room for growth, my beard would be out for the world to see and I would feel comfortable. Either way we look at it, we are both men with different outlooks & nothing changes that fact mate.

 

On a side note, if this really were reality. Beards would be inevitable for men in this scenario. The Sun comes up and then goes down, the transition is already in motion and the hair is growing! 

 

There is no need to get all defensive because of a different way of life. We all need to learn to digest and accept other opinions as just opinions, not shoot everyone down because it is in disagreement with your way.

 

On a side not whyherro, I enjoy a lot of your posts, please don't get me wrong as I want the same as you. I want this to be as realistic & true to life as possible...

 

BUT... DeathTax also brought up a few good points.

 

Sometimes we all have to realize that this is still a game that is an anti-game and with that comes compromises and limitations. I have come to terms with myself and know I have to be realistic with my expectations as to not set myself up to be disappointed. Take third and first person for example This will not change regardless of how much us hardcore elitists fight for it. Expectations have to be managed in all aspects of game-play.

 

I honestly enjoy your view on things Whyherro and your excellent survival experiences but sometimes I feel like your stuck in a corner with your arms crossed just in disagreement, due to your experiences with real life and translating it to in-game. Believe you me, this does not resemble anywhere near the final product and think you will be surprised when things start to take shape.

 

Have faith mate, and share your life experiences, but please do not shove your view on everyone. Open up and discuss things in a sensible manner, be open for healthy debates and different views. I just don't think we can translate life to dayz in the way you wish somehow. Remember, realism & authentic are two completely different things. Deans train of thoughts were always authenticity over reality. This is still the vision.

 

Back on topic, I want beards and you should be able to maintain them with our newly added stone knife. Realism, No, however Authentic, yes  :D

[AlphaDogMeat . 493]

What do you call a man without a beard?

A woman ;)

 

/end thread.

[hekp 223]

 

What do you call a man without a beard?

 

[Ceallach 56]

@Whyherro123

 

lol, you seem to go out of your way to proclaim how much you hate them.

 

Guess what, you can't get grabbed in this game. You are also not a Roman legionaire or a Scandinavian viking, because again.. it's a game! And not even a game where these two archetypes are included.

 

I really have no idea why are you getting so worked up over this. So much that you had to be bothered to justify it with a tantrum about real life examples.

 

Get over it.

Edited January 21, 2015 by Ceallach

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

As a personal fan of beards I think this would be awesome haha, especially if done in the one idea where your start clean and it grows over time, it should be then once it's long enough that people could customize their beard once they had a razor. Plus it'd be an awesome merit badge to be sporting a duck dynasty beard, then people know you're a survivor, and a leprechaun for avoiding a glitchy and or messy death for so long haha. 

 

I think this is a really cool idea having beards and maybe even longer hair as sort of a mark of how long your character has been alive, even though its largely irrelevant to the game at its current stage. Maybe they take a really long time of in-game hours to grow and if you didn't want it you could shave your face/head anyways.

 

This aside, it really blows my mind how on this forum (and well hell, the entire internet) you could make a topic about the simplest, stupidest fucking thing in the world and somebody that has wikipedia at the top of their favorites shows up to shit all over everything everyone has to say for no apparent reason.

Edited January 21, 2015 by Chzy

[Grimey Rick 3417]

My sole mission in DayZ is now to hunt down Whyherro123, grab his beard, kick him in the nuts, and french kiss him until he suffocates.

 

You've been warned.

 

[Whyherro123 2283]

My sole mission in DayZ is now to hunt down Whyherro123, grab his beard, kick him in the nuts, and french kiss him until he suffocates.

 

You've been warned.

 

I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or get aroused, Grimy Rick. Probably all at the same time.

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

I don't know if like where this is going.

[sachad 1016]

I don't like shaving in real life. Men without beards cannot be trusted.

[TheRicktator44 6]

Tell me, how does a head of hair and a beard protect you from cold and the rain? Yeah yeah, your face is warm. That won't stop hypothermia.

 

I just don't understand the mania about beards and facial hair. They aren't "SUPPER AWESOME FUKKEN YAEH GUY".  They are....just facial hair. Nothing special. Some people like it, some people don't.

 

Yet the above players portray the coming of beards like it is the second coming of Jesus Christ

 

How does keeping yourself warm not help with avoiding hypothermia...? Isn't that like, the entire point? 

 

Also the mania you're seeing from people like that, are most likely twelve year olds that can't physically grow facial hair yet and they're inundated with how awesome beards are just from the culture around it the last couple years especially in the sporting world and all that nonsense.

 

And when you think about it, some pretty awesome people rock the beard including your aforementioned jesus christ, and santa. You can't deny jesus AND santa as being awesome, can you?

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

And when you think about it, some pretty awesome people rock the beard including your aforementioned jesus christ, and santa. You can't deny jesus AND santa as being awesome, can you?

 

 

Or this, now rather famous guy:

 

[Whyherro123 2283]

How does keeping yourself warm not help with avoiding hypothermia...? Isn't that like, the entire point? 

 

Also the mania you're seeing from people like that, are most likely twelve year olds that can't physically grow facial hair yet and they're inundated with how awesome beards are just from the culture around it the last couple years especially in the sporting world and all that nonsense.

 

And when you think about it, some pretty awesome people rock the beard including your aforementioned jesus christ, and santa. You can't deny jesus AND santa as being awesome, can you?

The thing is, you don't lose a substantial amount of heat from your face, and the amount of heat retained due to long hair is tiny compared to the heat lost from the head. You would be better off putting on a hat. Long hair and a beard will not retain body heat in a significant way, at least not for survival purposes. Will you be more comfortable, due to your face and head being "warmer"? Maybe. But hair/beards in and of themselves won't keep you alive.

 

Yes, Jesus and Santa are pretty awesome dudes, but their awesomeness is only tangentially related to amount of beard-and-hair-itude they have going on. "Correlation does not equal Causation", here.

 

"Jesus and Santa are awesome, and they rock some sweet beards as well", not "Jesus and Santa are awesome because they have beards".

 

I also don't "hate" facial hair, I just find it strange and funny how worked up people are getting over the possibility of beards and such, rather than getting excited over things with much more tangible and immediate benefits: the new renderer, the new engine, new Battleye thing, etc.

[DeatHTaX 1217]

 

Beans for the trip back in time

[TheRicktator44 6]

The thing is, you don't lose a substantial amount of heat from your face, and the amount of heat retained due to long hair is tiny compared to the heat lost from the head. You would be better off putting on a hat. Long hair and a beard will not retain body heat in a significant way, at least not for survival purposes. Will you be more comfortable, due to your face and head being "warmer"? Maybe. But hair/beards in and of themselves won't keep you alive.

 

Yes, Jesus and Santa are pretty awesome dudes, but their awesomeness is only tangentially related to amount of beard-and-hair-itude they have going on. "Correlation does not equal Causation", here.

 

"Jesus and Santa are awesome, and they rock some sweet beards as well", not "Jesus and Santa are awesome because they have beards".

 

I also don't "hate" facial hair, I just find it strange and funny how worked up people are getting over the possibility of beards and such, rather than getting excited over things with much more tangible and immediate benefits: the new renderer, the new engine, new Battleye thing, etc.

 

I would have to say there is a fair amount of excitement for all new things when it comes to the game. Folks here can multi task and be excited about more than one thing at a time right? Sure when it comes to beards people tend to go over the top in the way it's referenced but that's part of the whole current cultural fascination with the beard lol. 

 

And while the beard doesn't make the man, it does make him better haha (of course these are all ridiculous personal opinions due in fact to me being too lazy to shave) But ya gotta admit, Jesus and Santa just wouldn't be right without beards, and I think it's safe to say that it's not just because we've seen them that way forever, it just...fits, does it not? 

[jukaga 271]

How and where in the hell do you shave in the apocalypse?? Do i go on scavenging runs and pick up shaving cream and razor on the way?? I never could get this. Why fucking shave? Its not like you will be attending any important meetings anytime soon...

 

Cooking oil and a sharp knife will do. I stopped using creams and gels and use a prepared olive oil for my cheeks and throat. I have a chinstrap goatee and the transparent oil not only lets me see what I'm doing but the hair comes off without a hitch.

[Whyherro123 2283]

How and where in the hell do you shave in the apocalypse?? Do i go on scavenging runs and pick up shaving cream and razor on the way?? I never could get this. Why fucking shave? Its not like you will be attending any important meetings anytime soon...

For some, it is a "comforting" thing, to do something familiar when stressed out.  There was a story about an American diplomat captured by some brand of militants in the Middle East during the late 80s. While he was captured,  he "pressed" his pants (I'm assuming "pressed" means free of wrinkles, and sharp seams) by folding them underneath his bunk and laying on top of them. Gave him something to do, and he said it reminded him that he was a human being in face of the mind-games his captors kept playing with him.

 

I know that when I am stressed out, I make myself a nice cup of tea and take a shower in order to relax. If I need to (I usually do), I also give myself a nice thorough shave as well, with some nice soap and sharp safety razor. There is just something about being clean that is relaxing to me.

 

I do this when I am camping as well, at the end of a long day of hiking. I have a metal cup that holds about a large soup cans-worth of water. I will warm that using varied means, then wash my face, neck, arms, hands, underarms, groin and feet using some hand-made soap (fresh-piney scent!) and a facecloth I carry for this purpose. I then change the water, heat it up again, and shave (carefully, mind you) with my Mora Kniv, which can "pop hairs" right out of the box (seriously, I cannot recommend Mora Knives more. They hold an awesome edge, and are extremely inexpensive. For their price, they make awesome survival knives). After the shave, I make myself I nice cup of tea and relax. For me, this is an excellent way to keep up my morale, and I pretty much do it almost every night I camp. Takes me 30 minutes, and the comfort and morale boost is worth the time in my book.

 

"Morale" is an important thing to consider in actual wilderness survival (not sure how it could be implemented in-game), as you can have all the best equipment, be warm and laying in a nice shelter, but if you are unhappy, all of that means jack shit. The "will to survive" is real, is at least partially based on mood and outlook, and has/can have  a serious effect on your chances of survival.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

Please give us beards.

But what is up with this troll thread. Why did this become a thing? We haven't had a beard thread in ages. It would have been perfectly fine if someone started a beard thread now, it is actually time for such a thread. Instead we get this thread.

Everyone please just forget about this thread. It went places noone wanted to know about. We just need beards in the game, not several pages of facial hair confessionals.

[DeatHTaX 1217]

 facial hair confessionals.

 

Greatest....phrase...ever...

[Grimey Rick 3417]

For some, it is a "comforting" thing, to do something familiar when stressed out.  There was a story about an American diplomat captured by some brand of militants in the Middle East during the late 80s. While he was captured,  he "pressed" his pants (I'm assuming "pressed" means free of wrinkles, and sharp seams) by folding them underneath his bunk and laying on top of them. Gave him something to do, and he said it reminded him that he was a human being in face of the mind-games his captors kept playing with him.

 

I know that when I am stressed out, I make myself a nice cup of tea and take a shower in order to relax. If I need to (I usually do), I also give myself a nice thorough shave as well, with some nice soap and sharp safety razor. There is just something about being clean that is relaxing to me.

 

I do this when I am camping as well, at the end of a long day of hiking. I have a metal cup that holds about a large soup cans-worth of water. I will warm that using varied means, then wash my face, neck, arms, hands, underarms, groin and feet using some hand-made soap (fresh-piney scent!) and a facecloth I carry for this purpose. I then change the water, heat it up again, and shave (carefully, mind you) with my Mora Kniv, which can "pop hairs" right out of the box (seriously, I cannot recommend Mora Knives more. They hold an awesome edge, and are extremely inexpensive. For their price, they make awesome survival knives). After the shave, I make myself I nice cup of tea and relax. For me, this is an excellent way to keep up my morale, and I pretty much do it almost every night I camp. Takes me 30 minutes, and the comfort and morale boost is worth the time in my book.

 

"Morale" is an important thing to consider in actual wilderness survival (not sure how it could be implemented in-game), as you can have all the best equipment, be warm and laying in a nice shelter, but if you are unhappy, all of that means jack shit. The "will to survive" is real, is at least partially based on mood and outlook, and has/can have  a serious effect on your chances of survival.

 

When I'm stressed out, I spill more seed than Michael J. Fox filling his bird feeder, whether my wife is the catalyst, or my left hand. ;3

[Whyherro123 2283]

When I'm stressed out, I spill more seed than Michael J. Fox filling his bird feeder, whether my wife is the catalyst, or my left hand. ;3

Hey...well....whatever floats your boat. But now I will never be able to watch (not that I watched it all that much to begin with) The Walking Dead without imagining Mr Sheriff Officer Sir Rick Grimes ah..."thrashing the milk-snake" whenever he is off-screen. 

[Calvin Candie 189]

I know that when I am stressed out, I make myself a nice cup of tea and take a shower in order to relax. There is just something about being clean that is relaxing to me.

Hello there Nancy. :) Would you like a nice pink dress with that?

Joking aside, whatever keeps your morale up in survival situation works. I like the story about the prisoner who pressed his pants.

I guess it reminded him who he was, even under extreme pressure and stress.

Back to the subject, they need to put rugged beards in game. If you find a knife and a canteen/lake you have an option to shave.

[Jex 1104]

Is malnutrition confirmed? Can we get fat or thin? If not, why not and why did beards beat this into the road plan. I like the idea of beards but I think we need other things in the game first?