Bullet proof vests and Night Vision goggles.

[Smoothshoes 0]

Bullet proof vest:  I just thought about this when i was recently hunted and gunned down. I was attacked by someone who had been following me with a gun. I had no time to react, before i knew it, i was dead. A bullet proof vest would help by blocking but not all incoming bullets from back or front or the side. Countering this would be easy by just shooting the person in the dead, but this would still be a nice integration to the game to help it grow. 

 

Night Vision Goggles:  We all know joining a DayZ server and its night time is a pain. You'd rather go to another server that is day than use a flashlight. Adding night vision goggles would be great because players could see everything they would on a day server but night visiony. Players could use the night to their advantage with goggles to hunt down other players without goggles. Again, this would just a cool item to use to help develop the game more. 

 

 

[Flagella 69]

Bullet proof vests are going to be added, saw rocket testing it in one of his streams.

Night vision goggles aren't a necessity and if were added should be extremely rare obviously. But to be honest I don't think they should even bother with them.

[Zyryanoff 227]

I found PRESS vest before. Looks like it's bulletproof.

[Korsbaek 1778]

Night vision goggles are not very realistic... I can't imagine anyone using them in a poor ex-Soviet state...

[lucidr34ms 9]

Night vision goggles are not very realistic... I can't imagine anyone using them in a poor ex-Soviet state...

 

Well in the mod you would usually get them from military helicopter crashes so...

[chris90 54]

nightvision is useless since we have day only server   :(

Edited December 29, 2013 by chris90

[semipr0 402]

Night vision goggles are not very realistic... I can't imagine anyone using them in a poor ex-Soviet state...

 

Military grade NVG's are not something I'd consider common at all...but I can find a nightvision scope and/or a small set of nightvision binoculars or even a monocular at just about any sporting good supply store I can think of off the top of my head. The technology isn't quite the same and most of these civilian devices are based off first generation nightvision technology and also tend to eat batteries like candy.

 

So its not really accurate to say that night vision would be rare, cause cheap nightvision options are available to the civilian market that are effective and sell for less than $30 USD, now conversely the ATN-PVS7 which the Arma 2 NVG's are modeled after and is a second gen nightvision device, would not be all that common because even as old as they are, functional ones are not cheap, nor is there a huge surplus of them available on the market. Not to mention the ATN-PVS15 and 6015-4 monocular, which are current generation devices would be even less common due to their extreme rarity even amongst the military...only the highest level elite operators in JSOC run with that kind of hardware, most of the general duty military are still using Generation 2 and 3 systems.

 

So...yeah, nightvision should be relatively accessible, just not military grade nightvision.

Edited December 29, 2013 by semipr0

[drunkenteddybear 9]

anti-balistic and anti-stab vests are already in the game.

can be found in the shipwreck and trainstations.

[Land Squid 22]

Night vision goggles are not very realistic... I can't imagine anyone using them in a poor ex-Soviet state...

 

It seems like everyone equates Soviet or ex-Soviet era countries as being about half an AK-47 above stone-age.

 

The Soviets developed night vision technology right along with the U.S. since the 50's. While we did hold a bit of a lead in the technology that is a far cry from it not existing or being available. Today you can get surplussed Soviet NVG's on ebay for a couple hundred bucks and building your own night vision system has become a bit of a niche hobby all across the world.

 

Cue up a zombie apocalypse and it isn't any stretch of the imagination that people are going to scrounge this stuff, be it from government holdings or privately own companies that deal in the stuff regardless of country.

 

 

P.S.: I've built my own AN/PVS-4 scope before and have owned and been issued others. The tech just isn't that super-rare/expensive anymore.

[Land Squid 22]

Military grade NVG's are not something I'd consider common at all...but I can find a nightvision scope and/or a small set of nightvision binoculars or even a monocular at just about any sporting good supply store I can think of off the top of my head. The technology isn't quite the same and most of these civilian devices are based off first generation nightvision technology and also tend to eat batteries like candy.

 

So its not really accurate to say that night vision would be rare, cause cheap nightvision options are available to the civilian market that are effective and sell for less than $30 USD, now conversely the ATN-PVS7 which the Arma 2 NVG's are modeled after and is a second gen nightvision device, would not be all that common because even as old as they are, functional ones are not cheap, nor is there a huge surplus of them available on the market. Not to mention the ATN-PVS15 and 6015-4 monocular, which are current generation devices would be even less common due to their extreme rarity even amongst the military...only the highest level elite operators in JSOC run with that kind of hardware, most of the general duty military are still using Generation 2 and 3 systems.

 

So...yeah, nightvision should be relatively accessible, just not military grade nightvision.

 

First bold/underlined part is not accurate. I owned an AN/PVS-2, which is a 1960's era first gen cascaded device. It ran off 4 AA batteries which would last for a couple hundred hours of use.

 

Second bold/underlined part is also incorrect. The PVS-7 was an early third generation device. It replaced the PVS-5 which was 2nd gen.

 

Third bold/underlined is just LOL. I was an E-1 in 2003 and was using the PVS-14 and other stuff just standing lookout watch at night. NVG's have proliferated through the military substantially.

 

Fourth bold/underlined, see below.

 

 

 

Stuff I've been issued/used in service:

PVS-7D

PVS-14

TVS-5

 

Stuff I've owned:

PVS-2

PVS-4 (And I built this one.)

PVS-7D

 

Stuff I own now:

PVS-14 (Gen 3 OMNI-VII)

 

 

And yes, I can pic-or-it-didn't-happen if you really want. :P

Edited December 29, 2013 by Land Squid

[cywehner1234 582]

I thought I heard rocket say that he didn't want NVG's in, or they would be extremely limited.

[HIHBGaming 14]

I thought I heard rocket say that he didn't want NVG's in, or they would be extremely limited.

I believe he mentioned this in his last stream and instead they were thinking of going with a monocular sort of thing. They did say something about NVG's being to OP and would want to go with something that wasn't or something to that effect.

[wgaf 251]

Night vision, especially 3rd gen night vision, is expensive and export-controlled. It's probably orders of magnitude less common than small arms. 

 

If it was added to the game, it should be the rarest item in the game. 

 

It could be argued though that since ACOG sights are also expensive (though not nearly as expensive as NV) and export controlled, that the m4s and their accessories found in the game might indicate US military presence, and the US military does employ a lot of night vision. 

 

NV is one of the biggest force-multipliers in the world, and just as in real life, NV equipped soldiers could successfully engage better armed and more numerous opponents who didn't have night vision. 

 

Whether this matters hinges on a different problem though - how to get people to play on dark servers. 

Edited December 29, 2013 by Azmjs

[Land Squid 22]

Night vision, especially 3rd gen night vision, is expensive and export-controlled. It's probably orders of magnitude less common than small arms. 

 

If it was added to the game, it should be the rarest item in the game. 

 

Other not-America countries make 3rd generation NVG's too, and they by and large don't have ITAR restrictions.

[Dchil 829]

On rare items, I think GPS should be made less rare.

A large number of people around the world have GPS in their cars, or go hiking with one, so it would not be unimaginable for them to be more common to find. The really rare one would be military issue, which might be more accurate or have more features or use less batterys or be tougher oot something. Make a mil-spec GPS which is ultra rare and make a civvie GPS be more common than a axe (how many people do you know who have a gps, now how many would have an axe?) but require rare batteries or something.

Edited December 29, 2013 by Dchil

[AP_Norris 1018]

If you ask me NVGs pushed people from night servers as you knew there were people that could have guns out, and see you just fine.

While you had to have a torch out, be defenceless and reveal your position.

If they are extremely rare/ impractical when they are added that'd be great :)

Maybe they could actually hover in your screen with a 3D model, this would give you a MUCH more restricted FOV, and the model should cast a slight green light on your face :)

[semipr0 402]

First bold/underlined part is not accurate. I owned an AN/PVS-2, which is a 1960's era first gen cascaded device. It ran off 4 AA batteries which would last for a couple hundred hours of use.

 

Second bold/underlined part is also incorrect. The PVS-7 was an early third generation device. It replaced the PVS-5 which was 2nd gen.

 

Third bold is just LOL. I was an E-1 in 2003 and was using the PVS-14 and other stuff just standing lookout watch at night. NVG's have proliferated through the military substantially.

 

Fourth bold/underlined, see below.

 

 

 

Stuff I've been used in service:

PVS-7D

PVS-14

TVS-5

 

Stuff I've owned:

PVS-2

PVS-4 (And I built this one.)

PVS-7D

 

Stuff I own now:

PVS-14 (Gen 3 OMNI-VII)

 

 

And yes, I can pic-or-it-didn't-happen if you really want. :P

 

The difference between First Gen mil grade tech and First Gen civilian knock offs is pretty wide, Power consumption is pretty heavy on cheap civilian devices compared to the ATN systems.

 

Far as the PVS-14 and 6015-4's I'm a little behind on my tech these days, I'm surprised they were that widely available in 2003 that boot recruit was using a pair. I'll admit I haven't kept up with military grade nightvision development since before 2003 cause I've been out over ten years now. The PVS-14 and 6015-4's were extremely rare devices when I was doing my time. So I was using that as an example.

 

I'm pretty sure whatever the top end of the tech is now is more likely to be combined optical systems rather than simple light amplification systems, and again...not exactly something they're handing out to E-Nothings playing soldier on weekend Opfor either. So take my post for the example its giving, if not for its exact chronological accuracy at least.

[hombrecz 832]

For God's sake, lets not inflate game with hundreds of NVG's, sniper rifles and machine guns.

I hope that more and more civilian grade stuff will be added and that hi-tech military stuff will be rare as hell.

 

Whoever craves to wield AS50 with NVG scope should head to appropriate DayZ mod.

[Lancer 2-2 14]

nightvision is useless since we have day only server   :(

You might, but not every server is day only....

 

 

I would like to see weapons such as:

 

Handguns, Uzis, Sub-machine guns (police issue), AK series of weapons (civilian and military), mosins (rare, but still around), hunting rifles (civilian and found in the hunting towers), shotguns and the occasional though again rare PKM or light machine guns.

 

We then could have super-rare helicopter crash sites that spawn less often than they did in the mod and cover a larger area which have a chance of spawning western weapons such as M16 and M4 variants, weapon attachments, military clothing/gear and gadgets such as NVGs.... but rare and only a chance of spawning stuff like that and when they do they won't be pristine (but repairable).

 

Operable Vehicles: 

Soviet style transport helicopters and civilian helicopters, no gunships please... not without AA weapons.... and maybe a super rare Huey.

Various cars, trucks, jeeps, tractors, bicycles, motorbikes of soviet civilian, official and military design.

 

 

I don't want things to become like the mod with AS50s and night vision/thermal imaging assault rifles... as fun as they were at times... it doesn't quite fit a soviet themed state during/after a zombie apocalypse.

Edited December 29, 2013 by Lancer 2-2

[Demophon 48]

Night vision goggles are not very realistic... I can't imagine anyone using them in a poor ex-Soviet state...

 

Baring in mind that other nation's could have come to assist Chernarus when the infection first started.

Also Helicopter pilots? So that could be another reason to add them to helicopter crash sites, but giving the chance of them being damaged in the crash could be really awesome.

 

Plus the new Chernarus looks like it's more military with DayZ SA so why not?

[Land Squid 22]

The difference between First Gen mil grade tech and First Gen civilian knock offs is pretty wide, Power consumption is pretty heavy on cheap civilian devices compared to the ATN systems.

 

Far as the PVS-14 and 6015-4's I'm a little behind on my tech these days, I'm surprised they were that widely available in 2003 that boot recruit was using a pair. I'll admit I haven't kept up with military grade nightvision development since before 2003 cause I've been out over ten years now. The PVS-14 and 6015-4's were extremely rare devices when I was doing my time. So I was using that as an example.

 

I'm pretty sure whatever the top end of the tech is now is more likely to be combined optical systems rather than simple light amplification systems, and again...not exactly something they're handing out to E-Nothings playing soldier on weekend Opfor either. So take my post for the example its giving, if not for its exact chronological accuracy at least.

 

The biggest difference between mil first gen (American PVS-2, Soviet 1PN34, etc.) and civilian first gen is that the military tubes were cascaded. As in, they were actually three tubes stacked one after another. My PVS-2 produced a gain comparable to gen 3, the downside was all the other first gen problems plus the fact that it was 6 lbs an the size of a thermos. Civilian tubes with only a single amplification stage require substantial active illumination in near infrared to produce useable results.

 

Power consumption in general isn't a major concern for passive amplification systems (ie. you're not needing to use an IR flood light like with the single stage first gen systems), the PVS-2 was a few hundred hours of run time, the PVS-7D with 2 AA's was 120 hours, and the PVS-14 with a single AA is 50 hours. I2 systems sip battery power compared to most every other system used for seeing in the dark, be is a flashlight, or thermal.

 

The boot recruit was using them when standing night watch on a ship in the middle of the Red Sea during a war deployment. Kind of alters the parameters a bit. ;)

 

The top notch stuff that is starting to proliferate out now would be systems like the PSQ-20. It's a hybrid night vision and thermal optic system. Now that thing does eat batteries like candy. The NVG half has the same run time as the PVS-14 I detailed above. The thermal side however will consume 4 AA's in 7 hours. Other new stuff would be the quad eye, which is one of the current attempts to alleviate the narrow field of view problem. And that leads into my last bit for this posting, as another guy mentioned, the restricted field of view...

 

Most I2 tubes limit field of view to a 40 degree cone. For someone playing the game with a 4:3 ratio screen giving them an approximately 90 degree FOV, when using NVG's the outer 1/4 of the screen on the left and right (and a little less above and below) should be obstructed. For a real world demonstration, try cutting a toilet paper tube in half, and then peering through it. Gives an idea of the restricted FOV when using NVG's.

[DemonGroover 8836]

I would really like to see ultra rare high end military gear in game at some point and i think Rocket has said he thinks a Global Loot Table on certain items is the way to go....as in at any one time there are only 3 NVGs on the entire hive.  So if 3 are in game there is 0% chance of any more spawning until one is destroyed etc.

[attano 10]

nightvision is useless since we have day only server   :(

Only day server you say?, Well i have played on a lot of server where its night and its a pure pain in the back to loot things

[Land Squid 22]

Here's a link for those of you curious what non-american night vision systems look like and how well they function.

 

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_18/294665_.html

[attano 10]

And Didnt rocket say that they should add em but they would be like the holy grail in dayz