Sniper Rifles

[.VincenT. 45]

In my opinion, good old M24s, M40A3, SVDs, maybe a VSS Vintorez. These are all rifles that are quite common in russia. The O.M.O.N. which is a special ops police force in russia (SWAT) use the VSS and SVD for common situations, so they should definitely be part of the SA. This is also another common sniper used by police

VSS - Quick firing as50 with less range.

[reapers239 57]

And how is that argument unique to sniper rifles? It applies to all weapons.

 

And how is that argument unique to sniper rifles? It applies to all weapons.

 

 

i was talking about .50 cal since is the most powerful and most unique and rare. yes it could apply to all weapons but is more likely to find m4s and aks ammo in military centers then .50 that was my point. im not against snipers in the game i just see the need of .50 since im not trying to shoot through an armored car 

Edited December 21, 2013 by reapers239

[Sputter 12]

People complained about high end military ARs, when the simple matter is that these guys would be at every checkpoint or military zone because there are more guns than people. Sniper rifles would be fine because in the SA you can only carry 1 main gun, 1 melee,and 1 sidearm atm.

 

So that person with only a sniper could get screwed when he has to go into town to resupply and encounter another person with a short range weapon. So you have to decide to have a long range rifle or short range combat weapon.

[st20wind 8]

VSS - Quick firing as50 with less range.

lol not at all. VSS in most games is a 2-3 hit kill. There is no way it compares to a .50 Cal Military sniper. The as50 was just a cannon compared to this thing.

[reapers239 57]

Conventions ban the use of .50 caliber rifles against human targets. Is it so hard to believe early bandits were using vehicles that required more powerful weaponry? 

 

Any distinction you make in the interest of fiction is arbitrary and goofy. They needed heavy assault rifles and infinite rounds of .762 ammo, but sniper rifles were totally uncalled for? Come on. It's senseless.

 

is not fiction any weapon or ammo used in war that is used in civilian related mission are warned to be used due to collateral damage, i had to read the damn geneva laws and debrief commanders for missions in iraq 

[.VincenT. 45]

wikipedia said the m107 wouldnt even be accurate enough to kill someone at 1200m so if its built in correctly its not op. Now shut up.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

is not fiction any weapon or ammo used in war that is used in civilian related mission are warned to be used due to collateral damage, i had to read the damn geneva laws and debrief commanders for missions in iraq 

 

It's the end of the fucking world, mate. In the early days maybe they were trying to follow international law but it's pretty clear shit hit the fan at some point. Riding around in HMMVs gunning down sick civilians with assault rifles is probably against geneva conventions to, as well as piling up their dead bodies in giant piles with no attempt to identify them or give them proper burials, right?

[-Gews- 7443]

With respect, weight is a ridiculous argument. We're carrying like 50kg of gear around on our backs. If you really want to start talking about weight, we're going to run into an awful lot of problems really quickly.

 

We should talk about weight when even the magazines weigh over 4 lbs each.

 

"The .50 cal is a great sniper tool when conducting mounted operations or even aerial platform shooting but can be a bit cumbersome for dismounted operations due to its size and weight... I’m certainly not saying the 50 cal can’t be taken on a dismounted patrol because it can, but it must be employed with a team much like a crew served weapon, not very practical."

 

 

 

wikipedia said the m107 wouldnt even be accurate enough to kill someone at 1200m so if its built in correctly its not op. Now shut up.

Uh...

Sgt. Brian Kremer--Mar. 2004-----------2,300 m

Nicholas Ranstad---Jan. 2008-----------2,092 m

Steve Reichert-----Apr. 2004-----------1,614 m

Edited December 21, 2013 by Gews

[Katana67 2907]

I don't care if they're gone. Matt said they weren't interested in putting in anti-materiel rifles in at E3. I never used them and rarely got killed by them, I never felt them overpowered but won't miss them in the slightest. If they do, they should be significantly inhibited as to justify their use (i.e. hyper-rare, hyper-difficult to maintain/repair, rare ammo, rare optics, etc.)

 

Sniper rifles are included already, see the Mosin. The Mosin as depicted in SA is actually an amalgam of the purpose-built sniper rifle variant and the regular old 91/30, see the turned down bolt-handle.

 

There's what, five weapons now? We'll see more...

 

I'd like to see more battle rifles and/or DMRs.

Edited December 21, 2013 by Katana67

[reapers239 57]

It's the end of the fucking world, mate. In the early days maybe they were trying to follow international law but it's pretty clear shit hit the fan at some point. Riding around in HMMVs gunning down sick civilians with assault rifles is probably against geneva conventions to, as well as piling up their dead bodies in giant piles with no attempt to identify them or give them proper burials, right?

good lord "mate" they did a math on real zombie pandemic and the results were grim, go look how long it takes for cdc or other global health agencies to identify and begin to counter whatever sickness it is. Not knowing what the heck a zombie virus is they will not send in high end war weapons, the most you gonna get is an apc or a hunmvee with a 18 bravo on the hood. Man either your have no logic or something cause you comment about gunning civis is nonsence why? cause there will be no time for it period 

Edited December 21, 2013 by reapers239

[Virdrus 16]

 

We should talk about weight when even the magazines weigh over 4 lbs each.

 

 

 

 

Uh...

Sgt. Brian Kremer--Mar. 2004-----------2,300 m

Nicholas Ranstad---Jan. 2008-----------2,092 m

Steve Reichert-----Apr. 2004-----------1,614 m

 

3 persons in the world did that YAY now everyone can do it. omfg.  

[AP_Norris 1018]

Adding a scope to an enfield does not make it a sniper rifle. There is a difference between a military sniper and a hunting rifle.

Not really.

Thats basically what WW2 sniper rifles were.

The standard service rifles with scopes.

[libertine 351]

Well there is military bases. Also it just makes people act more carefully, also whats so silly, good for you, go up there with a hatchet sneak up behind im and your loaded with gear. The people that got sniped in elektro and cherno are just plain stupid.

 

Why are they stupid and so what if they were ignorant of your boredom. Maybe they just want to play a certain way. Maybe THEY wouldn't have been up on a hill carelessly ending the streaks and effort of others like your dumbass did so they naturally didn't expect you to be spazzing out up on the hill.

 

Fuck sniper rifles. Last thing we need is multiple snipers covering four square miles of ground around them from various angles (locking down desirable areas and turning them into a weird war zone) only to see you and put their retarded curor on you the moment you take a breather to scan around and click their mouse button, blinking you out of existence for a tiny bit of fun for them -all from a distance the victim couldn't hope to detect the sniper with. Snipers also completely obliterate the ability for people to go up of roofs other cool vantage points with the nice views, it certainly did in Cherno. AS50s and super zooming DMRs and FLIR scopes, fucking ridiculous!!! Then there is the fact that sniper rifles in the mod were designed for a single player to take out an entire military base of Ai. They are not realistic in operation either.

 

I don't pick up sniper rifles, but i have. When i use them they are so easy to kill with it is next to fucking pointless. Fuck sniper rifles.

Edited December 21, 2013 by Thane

[-Gews- 7443]

3 persons in the world did that YAY now everyone can do it. omfg.

Huh?

He said the M107 was incapable of killing people at 1200m. That's not true, the weapon is more than capable of that and long-range civilian shooters out West are proving that every single day.

It's not as accurate as many other guns - but 1200m? Definitely.

[Virdrus 16]

Huh?

He said the M107 was incapable of killing people at 1200m. That's not true, the weapon is more than capable of that and long-range civilian shooters out West are proving that every single day.

It's not as accurate as many other guns - but 1200m? Definitely.

 

U just refer to the 3 lucky shots in the world :P  u are very skilled Shooter when u hit small targets at a range of 1000 metres. Its not something u just do.

[AP_Norris 1018]

Huh?He said the M107 was incapable of killing people at 1200m. That's not true, the weapon is more than capable of that and long-range civilian shooters out West are proving that every single day.It's not as accurate as many other guns - but 1200m? Definitely.

How much power would it loose at that 3km kill, it must've been like someone shooting at slingshot at your face.

[eirikr 34]

Adding a scope to an enfield does not make it a sniper rifle. There is a difference between a military sniper and a hunting rifle.

Umm, yes it does make it a sniper rifle. WWII commonwealth snipers used enfields with great success. Accurate rifle + scope = sniper rifle.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

 

We should talk about weight when even the magazines weigh over 4 lbs each.

 

 

15kg includes the weight of the magazine.

Edited December 21, 2013 by ZedsDeadBaby

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Not knowing what the heck a zombie virus is they will not send in high end war weapons, the most you gonna get is an apc or a hunmvee with a 18 bravo on the hood. Man either your have no logic or something cause you comment about gunning civis is nonsence why? cause there will be no time for it period 

 

Right. They have time to ship in HMMVs and an infinite supply of assault rifles, but for some odd reason definitely didn't have time to bring in any powerful weapons. Makes almost perfect sense except the opposite of that.

[sirpetrr 3]

there is 2 ways to solve this Problem:

 

1st all ppl like Vincent go find a millitary Simulation and spend the rest of there gaming life there (my  personal fav)

 

2nd ppl like Vincent are forced to wear a yellow raincoat in dayz (not my fav, cuz then i had to start kos raincoat Players)

 

 

i got a lot of love for all you heroes and bandits and everything thats between... not for Vincent tho /vote yellow raincoat !

[dulix11 731]

15kg includes the weight of the magazine.

 

15kg with just 1 magazine that is. 1 magazine containing only 5 bullets.

 

An AS50 without sights or magazines weighs around 12kg. So if 1 fully loaded magazine is installed, and weighs ~3kg, you'll have to choose.

 

Is it going to be bullets for your OP gun, or is it going to be medical supplies, food, water, maps and nav items, other sidearms, silent weapons (axe)...

[nitroator 0]

AS50 is typical a newbies weapon, only noobs use it. Want a one shot sniper? Get lapua, it#s about the same but not spamable like AS50 is.

[RatedTForTom 20]

People that want sniper rifles = mentally handicapped/waste of oxygen.

 

Seriously, stop suggesting things that will ruin the experience.

[-Gews- 7443]

How much power would it loose at that 3km kill, it must've been like someone shooting at slingshot at your face.

Depends on the ammo

Figure on > 10% remaining energy at 2300, > 5% at 3000

At 2300 would still be going as fast as a handgun bullet and it weighs 5-6x as much as 9mm

[Katana67 2907]

Is it going to be bullets for your OP gun, or is it going to be medical supplies, food, water, maps and nav items, other sidearms, silent weapons (axe)...

 

To be honest, this was the only reason why I felt they (anti-materiel rifles) weren't appropriate in the mod. You didn't have to sacrifice anything (as you would in real-life) to use them. No maintenance, rarity of repair parts, sacrificing of space over other things, etc. Running around with an M107 was the same as running around with an M4A1 in terms of how much you were hindered by your choice of weapon. Which was a bad way to do it.

 

If it's made sufficiently difficult to operate/maintain/modify/arm, then I'm all for anti-materiel weapons being included.