please remove the barracks at balota

[Morbius221 5]

Let the new players pick the baracks at Balota. Sorry but some of us just dont have 4 hours per day to go up north to explore. work and all.

Some people just want to fight it out. if you dont want that kind of game play then you go north.

I say as the game progresss just have better loot up north down the line.

This is Alpha and there isnt much to do in the game just yet.

[outlaw1198 34]

that's the other thing. it seems it can't be that bad now since the loot won't even respawn

yea i know that it does not respawn but after a server restart is really bad and the gear can still stay there for about 2 hours because people don't look every where and miss things

[Powell (DayZ) 734]

powell your surname? it is mine too :)

my first, actual name, yes

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

Nah, leave them.   No one MUST go there and if you don't want to play with the KoS kiddies then leave the coast.  Let the deathmatchers have their fun.  Moving them north would only spread the KoS plague and ruin everyone else's game.

Edited December 20, 2013 by SausageKingofChicago

[outlaw1198 34]

Let the new players pick the baracks at Balota. Sorry but some of us just dont have 4 hours per day to go up north to explore. work and all.

Some people just want to fight it out. if you dont want that kind of game play then you go north.

I say as the game progresss just have better loot up north down the line.

This is Alpha and there isnt much to do in the game just yet.

but the game is not all about fighting it out it is about survival in a zombie apocalypses. and you don't need 4 hours to explore up north it takes about 45 mins to get up there, i don't have much time either with school and such 

[CrazyIvan81 2]

Counting bolata to the nwaf there are 5 military spots 14 barracks in total

[outlaw1198 34]

Nah, leave them.   No one MUST go there and if you don't want to play with the KoS kiddies then leave the coast.  Let the deathmatchers have their fun.  Moving them north would only spread the KoS plague and ruin everyone else's game.

that is another thing i have not thought about good point 

[Sputter 12]

People seem to forget its an alpha and the fact is we are mostly here to test how the servers run and find bugs to be fixed. Pretty much all the loot spawns and such are pretty much just placeholders atm until more content is added and then the focus on loot balancing. 

[Mao Zedong 48]

People seem to forget its an alpha and the fact is we are mostly here to test how the servers run and find bugs to be fixed. Pretty much all the loot spawns and such are pretty much just placeholders atm until more content is added and then the focus on loot balancing. 

 

Hopefully you're right about them planning on changing the location of the balota military stuff... the thing is.. they haven't said anything like that xD So just in case, I think we should continue to post concerns that may or may not seem so obvious in terms of future condition unless rocket specifies they'll change it.

[OfficerRaymond 2064]

Keep them there. Separate the men with balls from the idiotic noobs. Apparently nobody realizes that this is why the current loot system is a good thing. Loot doesn't respawn when people walk away, therefore no matter what kind of loot is on the coast, there aren't gonna be a million guns as a result.

[outlaw1198 34]

People seem to forget its an alpha and the fact is we are mostly here to test how the servers run and find bugs to be fixed. Pretty much all the loot spawns and such are pretty much just placeholders atm until more content is added and then the focus on loot balancing. 

i know it is only an alpha and i mentioned that in a previous post and i am highlighting a current unbalanced  in the game, that is not a high priority in the game dev cycle but it is certainly something the devs need to look at when they get the time 

[Sputter 12]

Doubt they will change its location but once stuff gets added and they are focusing on loot spawns i'm sure they will balance it out so you get low end gear down south instead of now where there is no balancing.

[outlaw1198 34]

Keep them there. Separate the men with balls from the idiotic noobs. Apparently nobody realizes that this is why the current loot system is a good thing. Loot doesn't respawn when people walk away, therefore no matter what kind of loot is on the coast, there aren't gonna be a million guns as a result.

yes and also it stops the hackers from spawning stuff.

[outlaw1198 34]

Doubt they will change its location but once stuff gets added and they are focusing on loot spawns i'm sure they will balance it out so you get low end gear down south instead of now where there is no balancing.

they may change its location if there is too much of a problem for the game. no matter the loot table there is too many military spawns there so  it would only use the military table which will be guns and ammo mostly  

[Wrath (DayZ) 140]

I completely agree.

 

The way it worked in the mod was great. You had to gear up a little bit down south, grabbing something like a winchester, food + water, and then make the epic journey north.

 

Having M4's spawning in the highest value buildings which are now located AT PLACES WHERE PEOPLE SPAWN is a really bad design decision. 

 

It removes a lot of the amazement of EARNING a military grade weapon

It enables more people really early into their lifespan to obtain military grade weapons with ease

It removes the "epicness" of travelling north, braving danger and death to obtain said weaponry.

It makes famous flashpoints of NWAF and the like all but a distant memory.

 

I'm completely geared from Balota alone.

 

(On another note, why on Earth did you remove the military tents from Stayr? That was a stepping stone into NWAF in terms of excitement/danger/reward.)

Edited December 21, 2013 by Wrath

[jOKe (DayZ) 2]

yea i understand that it is an alpha and about 85% of the thing are going to change but i am just highlighting current balance changes

My point was that until the north is sorted the barracks should stay where it is. 

[outlaw1198 34]

I completely agree.

 

The way it worked in the mod was great. You had to gear up a little bit down south, grabbing something like a winchester, food + water, and then make the epic journey north.

 

Having M4's spawning in the highest value buildings which are now located AT PLACES WHERE PEOPLE SPAWN is a really bad design decision. 

 

It removes a lot of the amazement of EARNING a military grade weapon

It enables more people really early into their lifespan to obtain military grade weapons with ease

It removes the "epicness" of travelling north, braving danger and death to obtain said weaponry.

It makes famous flashpoints of NWAF and the like all but a distant memory.

 

I'm completely geared from Balota alone.

 

(On another note, why on Earth did you remove the military tents from Stayr? That was a stepping stone into NWAF in terms of excitement/danger/reward.)

I compleatly agree with what you have said it has made the game way to easy. And they have ruined stary and the have made too much stuff spawn down south and nothing in the east

[outlaw1198 34]

My point was that until the north is sorted the barracks should stay where it is.

But even when the north is sorted you should not have military grade stuff where you spawn the hole point of dayz is to earn the military weapons and not just have them given too you. As rocket said "Guns in dayz are like your levels"

[daze23 549]

I think there can be an overall conversation about loot distribution on the map. it's just that at the moment the loot is really limited, so it's hard to say how things will be when there's a larger selection of weapons. for instance, the military spawns are pretty much the only place to find guns at the moment. I assume that would kind of change when we get more civilian type weapons. I'm not sure if it's possible, but maybe they could make the barracks up north spawn even better loot. we still don't know what kind of random 'helicopter crash site' type loot spawns we may get

it just seems kinda early at the moment to really worry about loot distribution. and I don't think that conversation should begin or end with Balota

[Harba 3]

All the epic encounters in Stary Sobor will be but a distant memory :(

[outlaw1198 34]

I think there can be an overall conversation about loot distribution on the map. it's just that at the moment the loot is really limited, so it's hard to say how things will be when there's a larger selection of weapons. for instance, the military spawns are pretty much the only place to find guns at the moment. I assume that would kind of change when we get more civilian type weapons. I'm not sure if it's possible, but maybe they could make the barracks up north spawn even better loot. we still don't know what kind of random 'helicopter crash site' type loot spawns we may getit just seems kinda early at the moment to really worry about loot distribution. and I don't think that conversation should begin or end with Balota

They could do it but they would have to use 2 seperate loot tabels for the spawning but even the m4 should not be given to you on spawn and there is already a civi spawn gun the mosin but the heli crashes could add more but they are not for ever in one place they are random. I am not questioning the entire balance of the guns just the fact that you have military grade weapons spawning where you start, you are not earning them, you are been "given" them.

[outlaw1198 34]

All the epic encounters in Stary Sobor will be but a distant memory :(

yes they will and it is sad i am already not bothering to loot stary

[Th3mandalorian (DayZ) 7]

Yep barracks in Balota are a deathmatch.

My friend hopped 5-10 servers being inside this camp and he geared up so much it was unbelievable. Scopes, pistols, all ammo, medkits etc. But he had to fight his way out.

[Wrath (DayZ) 140]

yes they will and it is sad i am already not bothering to loot stary

I dont get this~!!

 

WHY would they do that? Stayr was an AMAZING battleground. 

 

This really really annoys me.

[Trivane 9]

I don't really see the big deal. The mod, in its various forms and iterations, had military loot spawns at Balota as well. Even then, we still saw a good number of players travel north and not hug the coast.