kragz 156 Posted December 17, 2013 This is ridiculous. I wasn't one of 'those' people just crying about the games unfinished state, but gave a valid reason as to why it was a mistake to release the game in its current state. Instead of allowing a discussion, the server mods took it upon themselves to delete the thread as probably the criticism of their precious fandom was too true. This game is Alpha. We understand. We see it ad nasuem. Rocket has been screaming it on every video and post for the past fucking year. HOWEVER, a lot of people are unhappy and feel this was released way too early in its alpha phase. You can't sell people a zombie game that has no zombies. Perhaps you should add a disclaimer to the forum saying "Only loyal fanboys allowed, no dissatisfied fans ('haters') or noob cod players". It would sum up the attitude to how posts are being moderated here... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5P4RK4 (DayZ) 50 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Dont buy it. Dont play it. What else do you want anyone to say? Come back later when you are happy with it. Its fully playable. Its more polished than I expected actually. No one owes anyone anything here, you got what you signed up for. Edited December 17, 2013 by 5P4RK4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWiser 251 Posted December 17, 2013 I was replying to your OP and had it locked before I could respond. This is what I was writing. Its not even about it being unfinished, I expected that. You know zombie pathing issues, loot spawn issues, inventory stuff etc... But eating and drinking not working properly with the most atrocious form of a text HUD ive ever seen in a game? Ive said it before but I would have taken no network bubble over those issues being resolved first any day. Considering the game doesnt feel any more or less smooth than the mod does with this bubble we now have. Anyway going to just continue to report what I find hopefully the patches to the game are regular (daily or at least weekly) and these issues get resolved fast! If this was back in June/July and wasnt $30ca I would be less upset. But we waited an extra 6 months for what?? I also agree that it was a pretty garbage move of them to remove your topic. Facts are facts and im sure people are pissed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kragz 156 Posted December 17, 2013 Dont buy it. Dont play it. What else do you want anyone to say? Come back later when you are happy with it. Its fully playable. Its more polished than I expected actually. No one owes anyone anything here, you got what you signed up for. I paid for something therefore I have no entitlement to criticize it? Please, get a clue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmashT 10907 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Your topic was merged I believe, usually a mod should quote you so you are notified of where it has gone http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/154473-charging-people-money-to-help-you-make-a-game/?view=findpost&p=1549368 Edited December 17, 2013 by SmashT 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bubbajones 238 Posted December 17, 2013 HOWEVER, a lot of people are unhappy and feel this was released way too early in its alpha phase. then we have a lot of illiterate, self-entitled cry babies. no one forced you to buy the game. next time you'll think twice about supporting a game in development and thinking you get a full game for cheap. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dodimir 15 Posted December 17, 2013 Tell me what part of this description did you not understand? We strongly advise you not to buy and play the game at this stage unless you clearly understand what Early Access means and are interested in participating in the ongoing development cycle Seeing as you are not interested in part of the ongoing development I fully support the mod for deleting your thread. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWiser 251 Posted December 17, 2013 Dont buy it. Dont play it. What else do you want anyone to say? Come back later when you are happy with it. Its fully playable. Its more polished than I expected actually. No one owes anyone anything here, you got what you signed up for. Are they offering refunds or something? Cause you dont fully know what to expect until you try it yourself Especially if youve been following this shit for the last year and have heard over and over "We arent releasing the Alpha because we want to be happy with its state before we do so" Really devs? Your happy with its state? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5P4RK4 (DayZ) 50 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) I was replying to your OP and had it locked before I could respond. This is what I was writing. Its not even about it being unfinished, I expected that. You know zombie pathing issues, loot spawn issues, inventory stuff etc... But eating and drinking not working properly with the most atrocious form of a text HUD ive ever seen in a game? Ive said it before but I would have taken no network bubble over those issues being resolved first any day. Considering the game doesnt feel any more or less smooth than the mod does with this bubble we now have. Anyway going to just continue to report what I find hopefully the patches to the game are regular (daily or at least weekly) and these issues get resolved fast! If this was back in June/July and wasnt $30ca I would be less upset. But we waited an extra 6 months for what?? I also agree that it was a pretty garbage move of them to remove your topic. Facts are facts and im sure people are pissed. Eating and drinking does work, the messaging was poorly tuned so they showed up right away though, you could still tell how far down the "scale" you were by paying attention to the frequency and severity of the messaging. Perfect? Absolutely not. Workable? Absolutely yes. To the other post, why would they offer refunds? There were disclaimers everywhere. At your own risk type shit. You didn't have to jump in on day 1 if you weren't expecting it to be at LEAST this bad. Research before you buy, watch some streams, read the warnings. Its no one's fault but your own if you got in too early. Edited December 17, 2013 by 5P4RK4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weparo 613 Posted December 17, 2013 I was gonna answer your post too, check this : =================================== Guys stop wetting your panties. It's an alpha. It's not broken, it's never been build completely. There is a bug tracker to which you can go and submit your issues. Submitting a bug looks somewhat like this : "When I do this, this happens but that is supposed to. Game version : 0.1.xx - Server XY - 12/17/2013"not like this : "Urgh, the game is so crap, the mod was better, dean is an idiot. There are 50 bugs which I'm not submitting that break everything, HURR DURR. He shouldn't be selling this, so illegal, bad company, raaaagge!" Stop blaming others for you (stupid) decision to buy an alpha that had atleast 3 disclaimers why not to buy it. You're the idiot here if you had to buy an alpha to realize what alpha acctually means. GROW UP. @OP : Please submit your 10 problems to a bugtracker so that they can get fixed and stop wasting time here. If I were a mod (good thing I'm not) you'd have gotten a warning for spamming. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kragz 156 Posted December 17, 2013 I was replying to your OP and had it locked before I could respond. This is what I was writing. Its not even about it being unfinished, I expected that. You know zombie pathing issues, loot spawn issues, inventory stuff etc... But eating and drinking not working properly with the most atrocious form of a text HUD ive ever seen in a game? Ive said it before but I would have taken no network bubble over those issues being resolved first any day. Considering the game doesnt feel any more or less smooth than the mod does with this bubble we now have. Anyway going to just continue to report what I find hopefully the patches to the game are regular (daily or at least weekly) and these issues get resolved fast! If this was back in June/July and wasnt $30ca I would be less upset. But we waited an extra 6 months for what?? I also agree that it was a pretty garbage move of them to remove your topic. Facts are facts and im sure people are pissed. Totally agree. I'm enjoying a performance boost, and the inventory system. However, it's much more constructive to focus on the negatives and that overall I feel like £20 for this product was far too steep. They needed to sort out the basics which they surely knew were a problem as they can be found if you just played it offline single player. Glad to see not everybody isn't so hostile to criticism with the classic "It's alpha, go play warz" etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bubbajones 238 Posted December 17, 2013 you paid to preorder a game that will be out next year. you have early access. game is not done. you got what you paid for... get over it please 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meeshe 170 Posted December 17, 2013 They arent selling a zombie game, they are selling an alpha of a zombie survival game. big difference imo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kragz 156 Posted December 17, 2013 Tell me what part of this description did you not understand? Seeing as you are not interested in part of the ongoing development I fully support the mod for deleting your thread. You haven't read anything what I have typed, have you? Stick with your stock copy-paste responses and treat me like somebody who hasn't understood the situation if you will, but it only serves to make you look like an absolute moron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mercules 1290 Posted December 17, 2013 Totally agree. I'm enjoying a performance boost, and the inventory system. However, it's much more constructive to focus on the negatives and that overall I feel like £20 for this product was far too steep. They needed to sort out the basics which they surely knew were a problem as they can be found if you just played it offline single player. Glad to see not everybody isn't so hostile to criticism with the classic "It's alpha, go play warz" etc. So don't play it until it is in a state that you think is worth the money you paid. We don't have to listen to you and you don't have to deal with bugs. Win/Win. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ken@thekab.com 37 Posted December 17, 2013 Are they offering refunds or something? Cause you dont fully know what to expect until you try it yourself Especially if youve been following this shit for the last year and have heard over and over "We arent releasing the Alpha because we want to be happy with its state before we do so" Really devs? Your happy with its state? Bullshit. "WARNING: THIS GAME IS EARLY ACCESS ALPHA. PLEASE DO NOT PURCHASE IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO ACTIVELY SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF THE GAME AND ARE PREPARED TO HANDLE WITH SERIOUS ISSUES AND POSSIBLE INTERRUPTIONS OF GAME FUNCTIONING." If they were happy with the current state it wouldn't be an Alpha. Some people... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPWiser 251 Posted December 17, 2013 Tell me what part of this description did you not understand? Seeing as you are not interested in part of the ongoing development I fully support the mod for deleting your thread. Id agree if this came out 6-12 months ago. But as you make people wait longer expectations go up. And i think there are a few blatent issues that you didnt need a "Public Paid Opinion" to resolve. I didnt realize they needed to charge people to help with looming blatent issues to a release. I assumed it was for more detailed issues that are found within hours of playtime not minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16187 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Hello there Your post was merged. Did you not check your posts to see if it still existed? Did you search to see if there was an existing similar thread? Criticism we approve of, multiple posts on the same thing we do not. You can set your notifications to alert you if your thread is moved i believe. I may lock this thread in a moment as your issue is solved. Rgds LoK UPDATE: The system it appears does not notify one of a merge it appears, we are discussing this now. Edited December 17, 2013 by orlok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites