Wayze 549 Posted December 7, 2013 I thought about it and I feel kind of ashamed of myself that I didn't do this before. I want to thank rocket and all the people that made this game happening.The most of us are probably long expirienced gamer. You can call us "hardcore"-gamer, but no matter what we are, I think we will all agree that we love DayZ as it was and as it will be.Dean is one of the human beings that prevented me from giving up my hobby. In the past year the industry turned into a pure money cow. The games as I remembered do not exists anymore.The gameplay in the vast majority of games is made purely for casual gamers. Everything has to be simple and easy to understand. A challenge? Frustration? All these aspects are removed to increase the quantity of sales. The player has to feel good, he has to be "entertained" as much as possible. What is missing for me is the real reward. I want to do something for what I get. I want to sit down and think about it. Does it matter if I do something wrong? If no, the game is no challenge. I just feel old, where are the times when you had to play a game for dozens of hours to even remotely compete with expirienced players? Today, I can buy Battlefield or Call of Duty and the first match I am capable of being the best player. The learning curve is just so high that even within 2 hours I can equire the knowledge and skill I need to to win against a veteran.It's not just the fps-genre, but also rpgs, racing games and probably everything else there is. The games just get easier. No, I go further. The games lose their main aspects. These days the games are not about the gameplay, but about graphics and fascinating moments. Everyone tries to copy the gameplay from successful games to reach the financial goal not to actually create a good game.Now, I don't say that it is wrong and I don't say that people shouldn't enjoy it. But I am one of the unlucky ones who does not enjoy it. I don't like games without challenge. Battlefield, Call of Duty, Skyrim and everything else are games I play for just a few hours.I almost feel like an old man, who was forgotten a long time ago. When I see games like Dark Souls or DayZ, I have hope. But I don't want to talk about what others do wrong, I want to talk about what you, Dean Hall, did right. I will speak directly to you Dean, knowingly that it sounds weird to read it from a stranger and knowing that you probably will never read it. You have better things to do and I don't mind that. (if you will read it though, it would be one of the highest honours I had in my life) I think you have to know what you did. You have to know what you have accomplished. I am pretty sure you are an idealist Dean. Otherwise you wouldn't have risked your life to climb the highest mountain on the planet. I am an idealist too, and this is why I appreciate what you did so much.You, Dean, brought joy to millions of people. Now, I know the following might sound really dramatic, but you actually changed the life of a huge amount of people. Some may say that it was not like you cured cancer or something, but I don't like to compare accomplishments that are beyong the reach of 99% human population with each other. No matter what others may say, you made many people very lucky. Let us ask ourself, why do we even live in this world? For what? We are not struggling to survive, we have food, shelter and everything else. We are the microbic fraction of living beings that can live without constant fear. So what do we do with ourselfs? I think, most people will say "Enjoy life". No matter if it is raising a family, being the best in something, having a good job or going out with friends and get drunk. Surely there are people who call us freaks, because we have a hobby that is kind of different. A virtuall reality which we enjoy. But in the end, we just live such a surprisingly short time. In some years we will cry about all this, the time when we were young and enjoyed life.Indeed, we should enjoy every single second, because when we look death in the face, a single second will be worth everything. Now, why do I tell you that? What has all this to do with you? Well, you Dean, you had an idea. You brought that idea to life and made a game that is played by millions. I spent a huge amount of time with DayZ. Hundreds of hours. Hundreds of hours with fear, joy and accomplishments. All the expiriences I made, almost every single one has triggered emotions that are comparable to a reallife situation. So intense and unique. I interact with other players as if they were my real enemies or my real friends. And all this, I just can't pay it off. The time I spent with this game, it is more worth than I could ever pay you. Because joy is always more worth than money, and I had so much joy with this game, that compared to other games, I would have to give you more than I will ever earn.Again, it sounds like I have "no life", but without DayZ something in my life would be missing. The expiriences I made, not all of them, but some will probably stick in my mind forever. And all of this because of you Dean, because you had this idea. Now some may say that anyone else could have had this idea and that at some point in the future someone would have. But, what would have happened to the game if it was not you? Maybe it would have turned out like WarZ from the beginning, no success ever... we don't know it and it doesn't matter. Because you were the one who actually did it.And I hope that you, as an idealist, will appreciate my thanks. It is all I can give you besides the money I will spent for the game and the time I spent for writing this comment. Time is more worth than any materialistic thing. And with your game I had many hours that were just awesome. I know it is not just me, because so many people play the game for such a long time. Maybe they don't realise it, but even if you just brought 1 hour of joy to every single player, even then you accomplished more than almost every other human on earth will ever do.Surely, there are many people who cry about this and that. Who want that you make that game better or release it fast. And they don't do it because they hate the game, it is actually the other way around. They critizes, they are unpatient and they cry about everything because they love it. Because they care about this game. It is so important to them that they spend time to register here and write about it. Not many other games are capable of doing this. But, why are you the one who deserves a "thank you?". Well, actually everyone who brings joy to my life deserves it. My friends, my family, even the actors in a movie. Every developer of every game I played and enjoyed. But you Dean, you are the only one who talks to us. You are the only one who argues with his community. Something that many other developers are just afraid of. Something that many other developers don't even care about. You brought me a good time and I thank you for this Dean. In the end, I know that you were one of the humans that brought joy to my life. Even if you are not the only one, I am sorry that I cannot repay it to you. Dean, you didn't just "have an idea". Because of you millions of people felt a certain amount of time joy and this is more worth than any money on earth. You truely accomplished something in your life! So like I said, my thanks is everything I can give you. And I encourage everyone to do the same, if you feel like me. It is the least you can do for someone like Dean Rocket Hall. Make him feel like a king. (not sure if this is the right forum section for this, but it is generally about DayZ) 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statik (DayZ) 2695 Posted December 7, 2013 No. You can't have Standalone access. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted December 7, 2013 No. You can't have Standalone access. Oooh. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zfleming12 395 Posted December 7, 2013 Well said Wayze, but yeah, NO KEY FOR YOU :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayze 549 Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) No. You can't have Standalone access.Yeah, but I got the PS4, and I know I won't play it anymore when the SA releases, so it can wait. :D (would be better because otherwise 500€+ would have been wasted)And makes me kind of sad that everyone is just thinking about getting the key, not about writing a simple thank you. Humanity, you again destroyed my faith in you :/ Seriously, I really would like you to say thank you. Literally, writing thank you in this thread. Maybe something you like about rocket or I don't know. Get him motivated and make him feel like a king because that is what he deservs! If you give me beans, what aren't you saying "Thank you", that was kind of the point of this thread... :rolleyes: Edited December 8, 2013 by Wayze 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gwraspe 318 Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) "people that made this game happening"erm.. I think you misspelled 'habbening' EDIT: wrote guy instead of game... damn beer :/ Edited December 8, 2013 by Gwraspe 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statik (DayZ) 2695 Posted December 8, 2013 I got the PS4 :facepalm: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gummy52 57 Posted December 8, 2013 The sooner posters like these actually play DayZ SA the better. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayze 549 Posted December 8, 2013 Wow, I really should have posted this after the SA release. Unbelievable how some people act... ^^ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sutinen 635 Posted December 9, 2013 :facepalm:What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayze 549 Posted December 9, 2013 What?The Xbox One took over his mind, probably... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bsturak2@verizon.net 86 Posted December 11, 2013 Why is everyone spazzing out on him for saying thank you? I've been given plenty of hours of enjoyment, and in my stressful life, I am very thankful to get away in the game!! Wayze obviously didn't just say this to get access to the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossums 2190 Posted December 11, 2013 Because the ass-kissing posts are just as bad as the whining posts.They add nothing of value. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgeesio 1034 Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) some of what he says is true games currently are a joke a short movie ride to the checkout with no thought ! press E to watch action happen but.... the way hes crafted his post is like a love shrine to dean which kinda worries me :lol: Dayz has been the best fun game ive played last few years i dont mind admitting that but i draw the line at making deans love shrine or breakfest :lol: . Edited December 11, 2013 by dgeesio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayze 549 Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) Because the ass-kissing posts are just as bad as the whining posts.They add nothing of value.Nope, you know what? Actually I thought I could motivate some people here to just say thank you. Thank you Dean for being who you are and not leaving the community because you are succesfull. Not being in ignorant f*ck that purely cares about money. Well, as we see you all do not care about that. You say "F*ck Dean it's just a cool game, not like he is something special.". Well I have never seen any developer that has been so engaging with his community. Even risking his name to do so. Being honest all the time. Making a f*cking STREAM I mean how cool is that? What worries me is the community. You seem like you don't give a sh*t about that fact. But believe me, as soon as Dean stops doing all this, because you behaved like unthankful f*cks, you will miss that time. "You know when Dean was writing comments on reddit and even on the forums?!", "When was that? 10 years ago?"...If everyone in this forum would have said thank you Dean, thank you for creating this wonderful game and not being an ignorant developer f*ck, well then I think we would have Dean way longer in this state. Just think you were Dean. If I were him, reading a whole thread with hundreds of people saying "Thank you Dean", I would feel motivated and honoured as f*ck. I would know that the community stands behind me, I would know that they appreciate what I do and I would do the best I can. I am sure at some point Dean will stop to write reddit comments etc.But this time would have come ALOT later if the community actually did something for him that he never forgets. I mean, which developer has a community that officially thanks him? Noone, because all these materialistic as*holes don't deserve it. But IMO Dean does deserve it and also does our community deserve such a cool developer. (maybe not, if I think about it) In that state, it is just a matter of time until Dean doesn't care about his community anymore. Hell, if I were him I would say "F*ck that, b*tching and unthankful bast*rds." and stop redditing immediatly. And livestreaming? Who am I doing livestreaming for unpatient childs that have nothing else to do then waiting for a stupid game I developed? But yes, I won't be able to change the mind of any person in this forum... Edited December 11, 2013 by Wayze 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted December 11, 2013 Hold up. I didn't realise this topic would go so...stupid. He's saying thank you. Leave him be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossums 2190 Posted December 11, 2013 Nope, you know what? Actually I thought I could motivate some people here to just say thank you. Thank you Dean for being who you are and not leaving the community because you are succesfull. Not being in ignorant f*ck that purely cares about money. Well, as we see you all do not care about that. You say "F*ck Dean it's just a cool game, not like he is something special.". Well I have never seen any developer that has been so engaging with his community. Even risking his name to do so. Being honest all the time. Making a f*cking STREAM I mean how cool is that? What worries me is the community. You seem like you don't give a sh*t about that fact. But believe me, as soon as Dean stops doing all this, because you behaved like unthankful f*cks, you will miss that time. "You know when Dean was writing comments on reddit and even on the forums?!", "When was that? 10 years ago?"...If everyone in this forum would have said thank you Dean, thank you for creating this wonderful game and not being an ignorant developer f*ck, well then I think we would have Dean way longer in this state. Just think you were Dean. If I were him, reading a whole thread with hundreds of people saying "Thank you Dean", I would feel motivated and honoured as f*ck. I would know that the community stands behind me, I would know that they appreciate what I do and I would do the best I can. I am sure at some point Dean will stop to write reddit comments etc.But this time would have come ALOT later if the community actually did something for him that he never forgets. I mean, which developer has a community that officially thanks him? Noone, because all these materialistic as*holes don't deserve it. But IMO Dean does deserve it and also does our community deserve such a cool developer. (maybe not, if I think about it) In that state, it is just a matter of time until Dean doesn't care about his community anymore. Hell, if I were him I would say "F*ck that, b*tching and unthankful bast*rds." and stop redditing immediatly. And livestreaming? Who am I doing livestreaming for unpatient childs that have nothing else to do then waiting for a stupid game I developed? But yes, I won't be able to change the mind of any person in this forum...What do you mean 'nope' ?I'm not trying to be a dick - it wasn't a question, I was telling you they add nothing of value.There have been a million threads saying the same thing and there will be many more after this one - it's nothing to do with being grateful or not - Reddit is the same with these 'Thank you' posts.Yes, I am grateful for him taking time out of his own (very limited) private time to talk to the community, that's why I take time out of my own schedule to contribute to the testing and bug reporting of the pre-alpha and help any of the newer testers get up to speed - I don't feel some compulsion to create a thread on the forums proclaiming my love.It's not exactly something that can be discussed to any great length - just a circle-jerky post about how awesome Rocket is.He knows that the community is behind him and both Rocket and the DayZ community owe each other a lot, that's why he spends pretty much every waking moment of his time working on the SA.He wouldn't be here if it wasn't for us and we wouldn't be there if it wasn't for him.If you REALLY want to thank him you can bug-report the shit out of the SA when it's released so the dev team don't die of stress.In the mean time, enjoy the calm before the storm. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgeesio 1034 Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) haha you make out dean is the only one that is doing this nearly every indie small game devs do this ! we do like the game ! hes a dev, its not out of the ordinary. you are coming across as a bit of a ass kisser and that is why many poke a little stick at you for your comments ;) dean hasnt finished the game yet so that is probably why hes still around as you put it :lol: so open your eyes a little and maybe read other game fourms and see hes not super human hes just doing his job like any other game dev ;) Edited December 11, 2013 by dgeesio 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weparo 613 Posted December 11, 2013 Jeeze guys, if it adds nothing of value, JUST DON'T READ IT. Nobody forces you to do so! I too whish to thank rocket, for having an awesome idea and a really cool style! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayze 549 Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) What do you mean 'nope' ?I'm not trying to be a dick - it wasn't a question, I was telling you they add nothing of value.There have been a million threads saying the same thing and there will be many more after this one - it's nothing to do with being grateful or not - Reddit is the same with these 'Thank you' posts.Yes, I am grateful for him taking time out of his own (very limited) private time to talk to the community, that's why I take time out of my own schedule to contribute to the testing and bug reporting of the pre-alpha and help any of the newer testers get up to speed - I don't feel some compulsion to create a thread on the forums proclaiming my love.It's not exactly something that can be discussed to any great length - just a circle-jerky post about how awesome Rocket is.He knows that the community is behind him and both Rocket and the DayZ community owe each other a lot, that's why he spends pretty much every waking moment of his time working on the SA.He wouldn't be here if it wasn't for us and we wouldn't be there if it wasn't for him.If you REALLY want to thank him you can bug-report the shit out of the SA when it's released so the dev team don't die of stress.In the mean time, enjoy the calm before the storm.Haha, sure the bug-report is purely because we want to thank Dean and it's not like we can't spent a second to say "Thank you", no that is way to time consuming. And yeah, we report bugs to help the developers and not to make the game better. I really don't think that he knows that the community stays behind him. He owes us exactly nothing. We play and pay for a game that we enjoy. We make advertisment for a game that we enjoy. We don't do this to help the devs, we do it because we like the game. Simple as that. Everything else would be a lie. And like I said, what is so hard about saying thank you? Why not do it? Has Dean not deserved it? It takes you 2 seconds to write thank you, but no you better critizise why saying thank you is wrong? Where is the logic there? Like I said, if I were rocket I would love to hear a "thank you!" from the people I care for. I know that feeling, because I develope small games by myself. Even if there are just 2 persons who say "thx man", I feel like a boss. Sure, Dean is over that. But I think if he sees 500 people saying thank you in a thread, that will motivate him as hell.And in game development, motivation is a crutial thing. (which you don't care about, as you think that "bug-report" is so much more important)I go even further, motivation is way more important then bug-report. I am not saying that bug-report is not important, but without motivation in the end the game will be a half finished piece of sh*t which did not use its full potential. Like I said it takes everyone of us just a few seconds to write thank you, but the affect it would have if enough people do that would be great for Dean. Pretty egoistic of you, saying it would be meaningless. Actually if you wouldn't make it meaningless and if everyone of you would contribute to this simple, very fast concept, than it would be very meaningful. Atleast for Dean. Sure there are many that say thank you, but it's always just 5-10 persons. The rest is saying "Stop f*cking crawling in his as* you piece of sh*t!".Human logic is sometimes a mystery to me. haha you make out dean is the only one that is doing this nearly every indie small game devs do this ! we do like the game ! hes a dev, its not out of the ordinary. you are coming across as a bit of a ass kisser and that is why many poke a little stick at you for your comments ;) dean hasnt finished the game yet so that is probably why hes still around as you put it :lol: so open your eyes a little and maybe read other game fourms and see hes not super human hes just doing his job like any other game dev ;)The team creating DayZ is surely no small game indie group. DayZ is everything else but "small". It has huge success, there is no need for Dean to communicate with the community. He probably would even make more money if he wouldn't. Over a million sold copies, most developers don't give a sh*t about the community after 100.000 sold copies. Edited December 11, 2013 by Wayze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hosty 647 Posted December 11, 2013 The Xbox One took over his mind, probably... NoThere is such a thing called a PCWith the money you spent on that PS4 you could have spent on a new GPU or something IMO the exclusives don't make a console worth it 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayze 549 Posted December 11, 2013 NoThere is such a thing called a PCWith the money you spent on that PS4 you could have spent on a new GPU or something IMO the exclusives don't make a console worth itMetal Gear Solid does... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted December 11, 2013 Metal Gear Solid does... MGS went so rapidly down hill after the first one. MGS2 was okay, Snake Eater was a bit 'meh' and MGS4 was more like watching an episode of Dragonball-Z than playing an MGS game. Honestly, I don't think the new one will be worth spending 500 quid on a console for. :huh: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16186 Posted December 11, 2013 Hello there To be clear, we dont mind "Thank you" posts, but if they become too commonplace we will merge em into one place. Also, although they dont give much to the community they are nice to get for the person theyre aimed at. Lastly, consoles. They have their place, but for me, the PC is the better computing experience. Its an "Apocalypse Now" vs "Dieheard" experience. Both good films which deliver, but a different level of interaction is required. Rgds LoK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites