C0okieH 156 Posted October 16, 2013 When are you guys going to add the .50s back in???? Is this Christmas? If so Rocket, i've been a good boy all year can I ples have a battleship with a mounted railgun on it and some anti aircraft missiles? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death_Dealer 3155 Posted October 16, 2013 There's no store, or points, or anything involved there. That's just one person giving another person money for a weapon in a game. It doesn't "ruin the gameplay." Wait, I thought you were talking about microtransactions? can you please specify what you're getting at - real money or fake in game money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted October 16, 2013 Wait, I thought you were talking about microtransactions? can you please specify what you're getting at - real money or fake in game money? Okay let's say a global item economy is implemented (meaning there could be .50 cal snipers in the game, but across all the servers there might be a grand total of say, 100 or so. There would never be more than that.) So if a player found a .50 caliber sniper rifle, instead of using it, they might go to another player and say "Hey, I'll give you this gun, in DayZ, for 100 bucks." Real money, for an in-game item. People do this in W.o.W all the time, they call it gold-farming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death_Dealer 3155 Posted October 16, 2013 I could see a lot of tears and fraud coming from that A lot of kids play DayZ and they're easily tricked, happens on ecksbawks live all the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted October 16, 2013 I could see a lot of tears and fraud coming from that A lot of kids play DayZ and they're easily tricked, happens on ecksbawks live all the time Definitely. I would never go for it. All I'm saying is that nobody could stop it if it did happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
methr1k2dop3 323 Posted October 16, 2013 By the way, I just thought I'd let you know you don't own 2 Barret M82's. Unless you bought them from a blackmarket and are illegally holding them, you can't even qualify to get a Class III License for one. Why you ask? Cause you're 18, NOT 21. You have to be at least 21 years of age to even fill out the first (out of MANY) page of the application. So no, you don't own two 50 cals. Think I'm full of shit? Here, read it and cry: http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Class-3-Firearms-License You lost, case over, someone get a moderator to close this pointless thread. My friend has a 50 cal.He doesnt even know how to register to vote. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AP_Norris 1018 Posted October 16, 2013 Military grade weapons such as the .50 are Class III no matter where you go in the US. And being 21 years of age is a national law when applying for a Class III.He isn't from the US, I'm not from the US.More countries have Internet access than just the US. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Gews- 7443 Posted October 16, 2013 Military grade weapons such as the .50 are Class III no matter where you go in the US. And being 21 years of age is a national law when applying for a Class III. A .50 is not NFA, it's the same as any other rifle... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris529 380 Posted October 16, 2013 I could see it them being re added if fairly drastic changes are made that would make them nearly not worth carrying (but it's realistic for .50s to be a shitty choice for such a scenario), such as weight/mobility restrictions, stance restrictions with firing and the guns/ammo being extremely rare. It's the apocalypse, each extra pound you have to lug around brings you closer to death. There's no real point having .50s unless it's so some lucky guy can keep it in his car for when he spots a chopper hovering and wants to wreck it. I think we're a bit off topic with the discussion about OP's dad's guns. This would have been easier if OP added a poll, but even without one it's clear most people are saying no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) IF it were reimplemented, what kind of balance adjustments would y'all like to see made? I think making it a weapon that prevents you from carrying a backpack or a second rifle would be a significant step in the right direction. No need for preventing or blocking another item only because you carry a big gun. A weight, stamina and encumbrance system would suffice. They don't have those slings for nothing because hauling a 4kg rifle is already pretty tiring even if you carried it on your shoulder or cradle it in your arm John Wayne style...now imagine you had to hold a .50 for 15 minutes while jogging from Cherno to Elektro ( it's 14kg for the rifle and 1,5kg for a full mag )... ounces equal pounds and pounds equal pain. In A.C.E. we were told not to carry more than 25kg of equipment ( rifle, sidearm, grenades, medkits, small equipment ) if we were to fight most of the time...for known reasons. The M82A1 can be fitted with a carry sling but according to those who carried it in the field, the M82 is too uncomfortable to be carried on a sling due to its excessive length and heavy weight. It is usually carried in a special carry soft or hard case. Edited October 16, 2013 by Enforcer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dulix11 731 Posted October 16, 2013 The .50 calibre rifles were unrealistic and OP is every way. When and where on earth would a average civilian manage to find and operate a weapon like an AS50 / M107 without breaking his arm upon usage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) The .50 calibre rifles were unrealistic and OP is every way. When and where on earth would a average civilian manage to find and operate a weapon like an AS50 / M107 without breaking his arm upon usage? You don't break you arm upon usage and if your stature allows it you can even shoot it standing. It's said to have the kick of a shotgun, the only difference is you can't wield it like a 4kg rifle, it's more like weilding a long thick stick in front of you and trying to get control over it. Not good for fast target acquisition. Edited October 16, 2013 by Enforcer 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas 5195 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) It's 35 pounds. Sure you can fire it standing, but as you've seen on youtube, anyone shooting it standing, is standing there bracing themselves, balancing the weapon, redistributing it's weight, they are not running around, up and down hills, sidestepping and doing ballet, while double tapping targets. Just doesn't belong in a game that wants to be more like The Road and less like Quake. Edited October 16, 2013 by Dallas 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skat3rat 1633 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) The .50 calibre rifles were unrealistic and OP is every way. ...operate a weapon like an AS50 / M107 without breaking his arm upon usage? These people have the knowledge of how to operate weapons but still they are firing it without breaking their arm's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqKI3hV2urI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H08ogwEyuZY this kid's 14 and firing a M107 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p36lHJBAmUs I'm not saying someone without the knowledge of how to operate and shoot would be able to use a .50, but someone WITH knowledge would most likely be capable of doing so imo. And one for the lols http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcA0zJuEkDc Edited October 16, 2013 by Skat3rat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harley001 315 Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) 50.cals would ruin the immersion. We are survivors. Not spec ops military pro's. If they are added back in they need to be as rare as helicopters! I would rather see more bolt actions. There is nothing like the three of firing a bolt action rifle and then hearing the click as you load another shot after hitting your mark. Edited October 16, 2013 by harley001 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Kyrah 1110 Posted October 16, 2013 Also how come there was never any official reason that such a big part of the game was removed?Because they don't have to justify themeselve to anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted October 16, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H08ogwEyuZY this kid's 14 and firing a M107 Yeah if it weren't for that table he wouldn't be able to hold it and if it weren't for the backrest he would do a couple of backflips... :lol: Did you see how much force pushed him backwards? :rolleyes:Firing is one thing, beeing able to really handle it is another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xalienax 621 Posted October 16, 2013 I would love them back for one. However they need to fix the easily exploitable saving system that makes duping so prevalent. Extreme High-End military gear SHOULD exist. ther are MILITARY COMPOUNDS on chenarus (NWAF is clearly a Mil instillation, not a civie airport). However for a weapon to be balanced by rarity requires that duping be FIXED. Im sorry but I really feel like a lot of design decisions/changes were done as a "Quick fix" rather then fixing the issue that lead to them becoming a problem. Also let the cry babies whine whine whine. snipers should be 1hk even without a headshot. deal with it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R.J. 70 Posted October 16, 2013 I think alot of people forgot just how bad the hacking was and the endless supply of ammo crates with 5 of everything inside or duping issues every other patch. I believe the deluge of M107s and AS50s had much to do with this and these rifles probably would not have had the scrutiny like they do now if the game didn't suffer from these issues. In the beginning, a player with an AS50 was a lucky guy. Three months later just about everyone had one with piles of ammo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted October 16, 2013 Three months later just about everyone had one with piles of ammo. Yep...i was pretty occupied sorting out the players who connected with AS50TWS among other "rare" items during night time on our server when they knew they were hacked in at that time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted October 16, 2013 .50's should be in the game, but they should be extremely rare (see item economy) as well as having extremely rare ammo. Also, they should weight about thirty pounds, and encumber your character accurately. Shooting it from a standing or any free holding position, should be impossible. You would literally have to set it down on top of an object, or go prone, to fire it. There would be lots of drawbacks to even keeping the stupid thing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairylemon 4 Posted October 17, 2013 By the way, I just thought I'd let you know you don't own 2 Barret M82's. Unless you bought them from a blackmarket and are illegally holding them, you can't even qualify to get a Class III License for one. Why you ask? Cause you're 18, NOT 21. You have to be at least 21 years of age to even fill out the first (out of MANY) page of the application. So no, you don't own two 50 cals. Think I'm full of shit? Here, read it and cry: http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Class-3-Firearms-License You lost, case over, someone get a moderator to close this pointless thread.Also i never said i had 2 barret M82s, i said we had 2 .50s there are alot more .50s in the world than just the barret. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikeloeven (DayZ) 10 Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) Why don't you play Arma you can use it their to it's full capabilities.... It has no place in Dayznot true the purpose of a .50 was never to snipe humans but rather to snipe engine blocks disabling vehicles for bandit ambushes and such.in Dayz they are very useful to support roadblocks when a driver attempts to flee around the obstical Edited October 17, 2013 by Mikeloeven 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dekkymane 145 Posted October 17, 2013 One shot into the hueys engine block with a .50 will cause the heli to lose power. They don't belong in DayZ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites