Knife Takedown

[SFRGaming 718]

I think it would be cool, if there was a revised stealth mechanic, to be able to do knife takedowns only if your knife is on your quick-action bar. And maybe a model so when you add it to your action bar, it puts it in a sheath on your leg (or any other place via different holsters). And we don't have to have the stylish BF3 knife takedowns. Probably just a simple rap your arm around their head and slit their throat.

[Korsbaek 1778]

Yes. We need this.

 

It could be done on zeds too to avoid making any noise.

[dannsair2 (DayZ) 16]

cool it would great.

[pinapple900 8]

I agree. But the only problem i have with it is the fact that the player is an average joe, not a frickin navy seal.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Taking someone down with a knife can mean long and nasty business.

[Bludy 324]

+1, needed

[Day Unit 18]

Great idea.

[Korsbaek 1778]

I agree. But the only problem i have with it is the fact that the player is an average joe, not a frickin navy seal.

 

I'm not a soldier, but i can still stab you in the back.

[TIC 1050]

Fighting mechanics like this should be a part of DayZ. Stealth mechanic should be an important part in avoiding zombies and survivors(potential threat).

 

And also, I'd like to see disarming.

 

[Day Unit 18]

Edit: Not sure, have to ponder with this for a bit.

Edited October 12, 2013 by Day Unit

[SFRGaming 718]

Fighting mechanics like this should be a part of DayZ. Stealth mechanic should be an important part in avoiding zombies and survivors(potential threat).

 

And also, I'd like to see disarming.

 

I doubt we will see this in-game. This would require a LOT of animation sessions and it might be a load on the performance.

[-Gews- 7443]

I'm not in favor of "takedowns". Stabbing someone isn't deadlier than shooting them so I don't see why it should have a special action. In fact it's fairly common to hear of people surviving multiple stab wounds... not as often with multiple gunshot wounds.

 

If you want to kill someone with a knife it should be like any other weapon:

 

1. You should have to actually aim to get a "one shot kill"

2. It shouldn't be magically deadly

 

 

Knife yes, CoD-style takedowns no.

Edited October 12, 2013 by Gews

[enforcer1975 1111]

 

We are no ex navy seal elite cooks.

 

Edited October 12, 2013 by Enforcer

[SFRGaming 718]

Im not talking about intricate moves to make a clean kill. Under extreme circumstances, anyone can make a simple kill by slitting the throat. I dont get why people assume you have to be a Navy SEAL to do so...

[SFRGaming 718]

I'm not in favor of "takedowns". Stabbing someone isn't deadlier than shooting them so I don't see why it should have a special action. In fact it's fairly common to hear of people surviving multiple stab wounds... not as often with multiple gunshot wounds.

 

If you want to kill someone with a knife it should be like any other weapon:

 

1. You should have to actually aim to get a "one shot kill"

2. It shouldn't be magically deadly

 

 

Knife yes, CoD-style takedowns no.

And I wasn't referring to CoD as an example. And you could take it as:

slit throat=100% death but not as instant as a bullet.

Backstab=Possibility of 100% death but he has a little window to react.

 

The objective of this is to not make a sexy looking kill. The whole purpose is to make silent kills WITHOUT WASTING AMMO. Ammo and mags will be a commodity in SA so it's best we have alternative ways to deal with close encounters. 

[MrSirLawl 0]

 I am up for this, it is a concern of mine that if you sneak up behind someone with a melee weapon, you will take a swing, and nothing will happen. We need a power swing, or as you say, takedown. This is even more prevalent when using small, bladed weapons like knives. With which a slash or stab wouldn't be instant, so a contextual ability would be required.

 

 Attacks from behind should be able to disable someone without flailing at them as if they were in front. It needs to be contextual to a degree.

Edited October 12, 2013 by MrSirLawl

[Day Unit 18]

If people are worried, then combine this with the instinct feature from the other thread. Use knife to gut and skin an animal and make meals, by doing so you would gain this ability.

 

Although I don't think it's necessary. If people's concern are that a survivor shouldn't be this stealthy, then use the instinct development feature from the other thread. I'm sure a survivor can practice and become nimble enough for the task, if he/she live long enough and practice walking carefully for a period of time.

Edited October 12, 2013 by Day Unit

[lipemr 160]

jesus christ, anyone knows that if you stab a person in the throat or in the upper back (on the spine) they'll die certainly, you dont need to be a navy seal, it's just obvious.

 

Just as we know that shooting someone in the chest will mean almost certain death, that shooting someone's face will kill them for sure, it's not like a army business or something.

[enforcer1975 1111]

jesus christ, anyone knows that if you stab a person in the throat or in the upper back (on the spine) they'll die certainly, you dont need to be a navy seal, it's just obvious.

 

Just as we know that shooting someone in the chest will mean almost certain death, that shooting someone's face will kill them for sure, it's not like a army business or something.

 

Dying can take from seconds to minutes, sometimes giving a quick witted victim enough time to retaliate if you don't have him in a hold. It's not like in BF: stabbed in the back instadeath, stabbed in front normal damage.

[SFRGaming 718]

Dying can take from seconds to minutes, sometimes giving a quick witted victim enough time to retaliate if you don't have him in a hold. It's not like in BF: stabbed in the back instadeath, stabbed in front normal damage.

Stabbed elsewhere, yes, you can retaliate. But if your throat is slit, or yet get stabbed in the upper spine, it's game over no matter if you die instantly, or it takes you 3 minutes to die. Those are vital areas which will hinder you if damaged. I'm also pretty sure if you get your throat cut open or your upper spine pierced by a blade, you wont be able to retaliate.

Edited October 13, 2013 by Shadow134

[Death_Dealer 3155]

Sneak up to the victim, grab his/her neck and put him/her in a headlock, then stab him/her in the heart or neck 

 

You don't have to be a navy seal to do this kind of stuff... 

Edited October 13, 2013 by Death Dealer

[OfficerRaymond 2064]

Sneak up to the victim, grab his/her neck and put him/her in a headlock, then stab him/her in the heart or neck 

 

You don't have to be a navy seal to do this kind of stuff... 

Agreed.

 

There are simple methods that you can easily use to disable and/or kill with a knife. It doesn't even have to be a large knife either. A 2-3inch long lock-back knife across the throat or multiple times in the back would suffice.

 

I don't want DayZ to go BF3/BF4 tagging style with it. But this is supposed to be a brutal game. Right? I wanna be able to sneak up behind a sniper that is terrorizing others and... well...

[AP_Norris 1018]

Why do people think they can't grab & stab?

It doesn't take a navy seal.

Just the knowledge that if you grab someone you have to be committed and trying to slot a throat isn't the best technique.

A stab is always better, under the jaw or in the spine I would guess. But I don't like to think about that stuff.

[Korsbaek 1778]

Am i the only one fearing that we will now get SoS'ers? Stab on Sight.

[AP_Norris 1018]

Am i the only one fearing that we will now get SoS'ers? Stab on Sight.

Atleast its an underdog rising up.

Instead of well kitted snipers shooting Winchester wielding new spawns.