Is duping a ban worthy? [1.8]

[Jex 1104]

Ban them - don't warn them. If people can't work out for themselves that it's wrong do you really want those people playing on your server. If they accidentally dupe that's fine, I've done it before and it's fucking annoying when you do because you know lot's of other people are going to. Why is this thing so hard to fix? Surely the object has a table of contents like the player does - you take something out, it stays out and it doesn't come back.

[Gwraspe 318]

yep ban hammer shalt thou rain down upon them. back in 2012 when we had a server AS50 TWS brought in by hacker ended up duped so much that virtually everyone that was regular to the server had one. piss take = ban

[wild_man 4442]

ok we get some thing straight :|

 

CHEAT IS CHEAT >:(

 

I don't give fucks if you are pussy hacker, admin abuse bitch or duper bastard you have less value than dog shit in the park :thumbsup:  :rolleyes:

 

you ruin great game and you are shit player IS FACT

 

one day I hope ypu realise every kill you make every win you take is same like your life - 100% FAKE >:(

Edited October 18, 2013 by KoS

[Jex 1104]

ok we get some thing straight :|

 

CHEAT IS CHEAT > :(

 

I don't give fucks if you are pussy hacker, admin abuse bitch or duper bastard you have less value than dog shit in the park :thumbsup:  :rolleyes:

 

you ruin great game and you are shit player IS FACT

 

one day I hope ypu realise every kill you make every win you take is same like your life - 100% FAKE > :(

 

Does that also hold true for every breath I take, every move you make?

 

I'll be watching you... <_<

[kichilron 8550]

I have banned a lot of people in 1.7.7.1 because of the huge duping-exploit and because there was nothing I could do to fix it. Especially on publichive it gives you an extreme advantage over other players and when you dupe your entire gear multiple times there's no difference to spawning a hackerbox and that makes it just as bad.

Of course it's a case to case decision, but most of them have not just been exploiting to refill their half empty clips. They have been actively duping their gear giving them the opportunity to repair cars / helicopters or just 25 DMR's with full kit and backpacks. Why would you let anyone get away with that?

[mercules 1290]

I've always found this odd. Aren't "exploits" in games called cheating to remove the blame from the developers for allowing these to be possible?

 

I assume you have never coded anything in your life. There are limitations to code or bugs that no developer no matter how talented can get rid of. Usually they code around them but the door is still open in the code for those little pieces to be hooked onto. Most exploits either break the work around to trigger that code you don't want accessed or use some outside means to hook into them. It's not that the developers "suck" or are not doing their job it's that they are human and people do want the product to come out in a year or two. To do that you start with existing code which means you often have parts left in you can't remove (at least not without compromising something or a LOT of extra work) but shouldn't be accessed. 

For an example. In DayZ Epoch they "lock" vehicles by having the program check to see if you have an object with a given value in your inventory that matches a value set on the vehicle. If you do you can unlock it and then it will show the options to "Get In..." on the action menu. Locking it turns off those options again. Well, if you could enter a vehicle without using the action menu then you could hop in and drive away with it. So when people added AI to their servers they were shocked to see them get in locked cars and drive around. That is because they don't use the action menu. The AI "cheats" to bypass the code set up to "lock" vehicles. 

[h4yw1r3 64]

Duping is ban worthy in my book.  Exploiters are only marginally better than cheaters.  With duping, all players have to do is find a rare item once, and as long those players keep one of them cached somewhere (tent, cache, vehicle, an unplayed "bank" character, etc), They never have to scavenge for them again, and they and all their buddies stay geared out.

 

I'd ban them without even bothering with a warning.  I'd place it in the rules and ban them if they break it.  If a person is the type of person to cheat, or exploit any bug or broken mechanic for an unfair advantage, then that's just the type of person they are.  The very pieces o' $hit you don't want on your servers.

[NagsterTheGangster 388]

Id say yes, but give a stern warning first and if they continue, drop the ban hammer. (unless you have clear rules stating otherwise, if not update them!)

[Kaffarov37 125]

I would give a warning then a ban