SVD (Regular) in General Military Buildings

[IceBeam 34]

I am not a native English speaker and I apologise for any mistakes made in this thread.

 

Problems:

 

I have always been surprised by the fact that SVD is so rare in a post-Soviet country. Since DMR is the most common (newbie-friendly) sniper rifle in DayZ many players don't bother finding neither SVD (which requires a lot of skill to use) nor SVD mags. Let's compare the availability of DMR, M24, M40A3 and SVD Camo:

 

 

DMR: General Military buildings (1.35%), Barracks (0.82%), Helicopter Crash Sites

 

M24: General Military buildings (1.35%), Barracks (0.41%), Helicopter Crash Sites

 

M40A3 (which is actually a camouflage version (reskin) of M24): Barracks (0.82%), Helicopter Crash Sites

 

SVD Camo (a camouflage version (reskin) of the regular SVD): Barracks (0.41%), Helicopter Crash Sites

 

 

Realism: as you can see, you are more likely to find an American sniper rifle than a Russian SVD in a post-Soviet country (which is not very realistic). 

 

Gameplay: not everyone will agree with me, but DMR, M24 and M40A3 are newbie-friendly rifles compared to SVD. However, the easy-to-use American sniper rifles are more common than, like ODoyleRulez, trained sniper's best friend (SVD). Imagine this situation: you come across both DMR and SVD, but you can take only one of these rifles with you. Which one would you like to choose? I bet most of the players will take DMR mainly because of the ridiculous rarity of SVD mags. In my opinion, a player shouldn't be penalised for choosing one gun over another.

 

Suggestion (Solution):

 

I suggest adding regular SVD to General Military buildings, Barracks, Helicopter Crash Sites and 10Rnd. SVD mag to the Military Loot with the following chances of spawning:

 

General Military buildings: SVD (regular) - the same chance of spawning as DMR and M24 have (right now it is 1.35%)

 

Barracks: SVD (regular) - the same chance of spawning as SVD Camo has (right now it is 0.41%)

 

Helicopter Crash Sites: SVD (regular) - the same chance of spawning as SVD Camo has

 

 

Military loot: 10Rnd. SVD mag - the same chance of spawning as DMR mag, 30Rnd. AK, 30Rnd. Stanag and AKM Mag have (right now it is 1.96%)

 

In my opinion, it will add a bit of variety without ruining the gameplay. Players will still have to loot the Barracks and Helicopter Crash Sites if they want to find SVD Camo. If this idea is implemented, regular SVD will have the same availability as DMR and M24, and SVD Camo will be as common as M40A3.

 

What do you think about it? Feel free to discuss.

 

P.S. Please, don't tell me to GTFO without a proper explanation

[BSB Jimmy 360]

GTFO

[plexico 386]

Razor please make this happen.

[-Gews- 7443]

I don't know why they haven't already done this ages ago...

[King of kong 1117]

GTFO

GTFO, troll, I'm a focking leprechaun!

[AppleJack100 58]

I agree why havent they done this by now!

[Horseyspc 21]

i'm speechless  :|

[AP_Norris 1018]

I agree, more Russain weapons pls.

Dey r the sexiest.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Spawn rate of soviet based weapons should be 10x of western military weapons. And civilian weapons at least 20x of the western military weapons.

[AP_Norris 1018]

Spawn rate of soviet based weapons should be 10x of western military weapons. And civilian weapons at least 20x of the western military weapons.

Yes.

[AP_Norris 1018]

Another thing I want to add is the vehicles.

Wtf are American humvees a doing over there?

I'm sure they'd be guarding their own boarders and airports with their whole military instead of sending troops over to crash every five metres and clutter up the damn roads.

Same with the hueys, what's wrong with Mi 17 or other soviet sort of heli's?

[IceBeam 34]

Spawn rate of soviet based weapons should be 10x of western military weapons. And civilian weapons at least 20x of the western military weapons.

 

I agree with you, there should be more Soviet-based weapons, but adding more (new) Russian weapons (or reducing the spawn rate of Western weapons) will be considered a radical idea and will probably be rejected: many players will start complaining about lack of the weapons they got used to (DMR, M14 AIM, M16 and etc). In my opinion, DMR and M16 variations are too common: there should be more SVDs and AK variations. For example, I'd like to see these weapons added: 

 

General Military buildings: AK-74 GP-25 (Grenade Launcher) and more GP-25 grenades generally; Stechkin APS instead of PDW, PDW will still be available in the Barracks.

 

Barracks: in my opinion, Barracks should be the main source of Western weapons, but it would be great if these buildings also spawned RPK (it should replace one of the machine guns available there, the replaced MG should only be found near the Helicopter Crash Sites) and AKS-74UN Kobra (so that there will be both Russian and American silenced assault rifles) with 30Rnd. AK SD added to the Military Loot.

 

TL;DR: I wouldn't like to remove Western weapons, but I would like to see more Soviet-based weapons in the game. Replacing American weapons with the Russian analogues will probably be considered a radical idea, but adding more Soviet-based weapons without reducing the chance of spawning of (or even removing) Western weapons will not ruin the gameplay. In my opinion, adding SVD (Regular) to all of the military buildings will be a small step towards increasing the amount of Russian weapons. 

[Frytek 130]

I tell you why there is so much western crap. Its because in Arma 2, there is an American campaign going there. Not sure if the Chernarussians are being pacified by NATO or defended by them, but thats how things are.

Though I agree about the SVD.

Sry but I wont be making another thread just to ask short question, but what do you say about two areas: russian controlled and NATO controlled? Of course before outbreak so guns would vary on both areas

[enforcer1975 1111]

I tell you why there is so much western crap. Its because in Arma 2, there is an American campaign going there. Not sure if the Chernarussians are being pacified by NATO or defended by them, but thats how things are.

Though I agree about the SVD.

Sry but I wont be making another thread just to ask short question, but what do you say about two areas: russian controlled and NATO controlled? Of course before outbreak so guns would vary on both areas

 

Afaik it was not a big scale invasion so a mass of western weapons isn't realistic.

[AP_Norris 1018]

I don't think I've ever had an SVD

[JIJOK 49]

nice !! this  thread makes me feel much better with my svd camo with 10 mags   :murder:

Edited August 23, 2013 by JIJOK

[IceBeam 34]

I've just looked at the code and found this blueprint. Seems like SVD (Regular) is going to be added to the loot tables (in my opinion).

 class Blueprint_SVD_CAMO : ItemCore {          scope = public;       displayName = $STR_CRAFT_NAME_Blueprint_SVD_CAMO;       descriptionShort = $STR_CRAFT_DESC_Blueprint_SVD_CAMO;       model = "\Ca\misc\SmallObj_moscow_docs_WPN";       picture = "\z\addons\dayz_communityassets\CraftingPlaceholders\equip_blueprint.paa";        class ItemActions {                           class Craft {                      text = "Craft Item";                      script = "spawn player_craftItem;";                      input[] =                       {                             {"SVD","CfgWeapons",1},                             {"Skin_Sniper1_DZ","CfgMagazines",1},                             {"Attachment_CAMO","CfgMagazines",1}                      };                      output[] =                       {                              {"SVD_CAMO","CfgWeapons",1}                      };                      required[] =                       {                             {"ItemToolbox","CfgWeapons",1}                      };              };       };}; 

Edited August 24, 2013 by IceBeam

[Heathcz 84]

GTFO

GTFO

Edited August 24, 2013 by Heathcz

[Chaingunfighter 917]

Another thing I want to add is the vehicles.

Wtf are American humvees a doing over there?

I'm sure they'd be guarding their own boarders and airports with their whole military instead of sending troops over to crash every five metres and clutter up the damn roads.

Same with the hueys, what's wrong with Mi 17 or other soviet sort of heli's?

They have HMMWVs wrecked everywhere (And one that spawns undamaged) simply because Arma doesn't come with a huge variety of wreck vehicles and they had to compensate for that. It's also possible that Chernarus imported HMMWVs and Hueys for their own use [Assuming that they aren't forced alongside Arma II's storyline]

And there is an Mi-17 already, it spawns on Skalisty Island.

Edited August 25, 2013 by Chaingunfighter