I admit it, I prefer vanilla DayZ!

[Sula 1205]

We've got AIs on our Balota Buddies UK/EU server and they are deadly. I can't cope. I'm a lousy shot and these AIs kill me about once every 10-15 minutes or every time I run more than 500 meters! I admit it, I don't have the blood lust or abilities to run down these AIs. They've got big guns and scopes and endless ammo! Odd - am I the only one who's Enter keys aren't working? I'm having to type all this without a space. *cries into hands* Any tips on either problem? I can't even see the AIs let alone shoot at them, and now I can't even find a gun before they kill me. *cries some more* :huh:

[JustThatEpic 72]

We've got AIs on our Balota Buddies UK/EU server and they are deadly. I can't cope. I'm a lousy shot and these AIs kill me about once every 10-15 minutes or every time I run more than 500 meters! I admit it, I don't have the blood lust or abilities to run down these AIs. They've got big guns and scopes and endless ammo! Odd - am I the only one who's Enter keys aren't working? I'm having to type all this without a space. *cries into hands* Any tips on either problem? I can't even see the AIs let alone shoot at them, and now I can't even find a gun before they kill me. *cries some more* :huh:

It's not often that a mod confesses that they're bad (fraggle).

[CoolCain10 55]

1): Don't play balota buddies is my first suggestion, if you can't cope with it, don't play it.

2): Avoid the AI (or combat log)

[Dagwood 680]

I'd be hesitant to play a server with armed AI just because of the endless military loot that would be lying around for everyone to pick up. I'm guessing that server is a complete deathmatch (which is totally fine. Just not for a vanilla dayz experience)

[Bottlerocket 205]

Vanilla DayZ is the only DayZ - all else is fan fiction.

[sarkasm0 109]

I don't get it, is it a chernarus map with AI? where are the bots?

[Sula 1205]

I would never knowingly combat log! That's against our rules. Besides, I'm a mod at Balota Buddies and admin of their UK server but it isn't that I have to play there - I want to! I love it but I want to beat these AIs. <_< I was looking more for ways to get better so I can fight these AIs off! Other players have a lot of fun fighting the AIs and stealing their guns and loot. :thumbsup: I want to do the same. I want to play it but when you're as crap as I am at shooting well, really, there's a lot of dying involved. Usually it's my own. :facepalm: By the way, Dagwood, no not at all. There is loot but it's hard to get. It's a lot of fun but it's embarrassing when I'm the one who always ends up dead. :)

Edited July 3, 2013 by Sula

[SoulShaper2 243]

do what i do and fly helicopters. im shit at PvP so took on the role of transport. keeps you in the game and things interesting when you come under fire B)

[jamieledgeway@hotmail.co.uk 216]

I wish there were whitelisted servers that run the latest build and nothing else.

With no side chat. No crosshairs.

That to me was, and always will be DayZ at its best.

Edited July 3, 2013 by thehet

[-Se7eN- 874]

AI are a funny one, id recommend playing ARMA for abit and get used to how they work, peeking round corners is your best chance of getting them as they wont stay aiming at you like a player will.

You just gotta out smart them, they don't think like a player does, but there accuracy is brilliant, stick to cover, constantly scope your surrounding, check for movement as they don't like to stand still, try and get the jump on them.

Also what i said about practicing on arma, me and a few other often go on arma and shoot up some AI to stay in practice, if you wish to join us Sula you are more than welcome.

ts.dayzmedics.com

[-Se7eN- 874]

do what i do and fly helicopters. im shit at PvP so took on the role of transport. keeps you in the game and things interesting when you come under fire B)

id like to point out that soul here keeps me as his bodyguard and just uses me as a meatshield ;)

[hogscraper 328]

After playing Dayz deathmatch around several servers I got bored until I found one with outposts here and there. Definitely more of a challenge there.

If you're sure that one enter key is dead, why not use the other? Or worst case scenario, both are broken and you can't afford another keyboard, rebind the += button next to backspace to enter since those are on the keypad anyways:)

[boneboys 7988]

Come play with me....

I got Pure DayZ ahead of me !

[Skat3rat 1633]

Pvp, even against AI, takes practice and experience. There are a lot of videos and "articles" that teach you how to pvp in DayZ/Arma 2 but that is only going to tell you what to do. Remembering what to do and actually doing it when the shots ring out is different. You practically have to train if you want to get good at pvp.

Although, Sula since you don't shoot at players, just the ai, I suggest you launch Arma 2 OA, go to the editor, choose a map, spawn a few enemy AIs and practice shooting and killing them. AI are extremely stupid and once you learn how they work, you can easily take them on, on Balota Buddies.

If you want to practice with different guns and learn how to use them, I suggest downloading this. http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=146

[barrett_killz 229]

What's vanilla? I'm playing DayZ mod for almost an year and I still have no idea what does it mean though I've heard it really many times...

[klesh 2423]

What's vanilla? I'm playing DayZ mod for almost an year and I still have no idea what does it mean though I've heard it really many times...

Vanilla means DayZ as the developers of the mod produce it. Many private hive servers add and tweak things like having extra loot, extra buildings, removing nighttime, adding extra vehicles, adding AI, adding special scripts such as self-bloodbagging and the like. In my opinion, these often spoil DayZ and turn it into something it is not "supposed" to be. When someone says they are playing vanilla or looking for a vanilla server, they want only the DayZ mod as it is released from the developers, with no additions or removals.

[Sula 1205]

Boneboys you only have to name the time and place! :)

[JoeM (DayZ) 41]

Vanilla DayZ is quite simply the best DayZ. I was horrified yesterday, on DayZ commander I noticed a server that described itself as a 'Learning server' where new players were meant to go to learn to survive. I joined it out of interest and I will say that there can not be a worse place to learn! First off it is described as PvE ONLY and if you got to a certain humanity you would get kicked for killing too many players and then I noticed what gear I spawned in with.

M4 CCO SD, Makarov SD, Coyote BP, Food, Drink, All medicals, All tools and Rangefinders. I spawned at Balota and went to see if I could find anyone, but as soon as I reached the air strip I saw at least 15 helicopters I sat there thinking 'WTF is this?' sure if you enjoy that kind of stuff go for it but this is in no way a 'Learning server' for the real DayZ.

Horrible experience, terrifying especially that people on this server clearly didn't have a clue how to play. Asking questions like 'How do I bandage myself?' or 'How do I eat food?'

[colekern 1364]

1): Don't play balota buddies is my first suggestion, if you can't cope with it, don't play it.

wat

Shes an admin there.

[timboski 618]

We had AI on our server for a while and after the initial ooooohs it quickly got annoying. I do think they have a place in some flavours of the mod (Origins does it very well).

[JackWalsh 29]

We've got AIs on our Balota Buddies UK/EU server and they are deadly. I can't cope. I'm a lousy shot and these AIs kill me about once every 10-15 minutes or every time I run more than 500 meters! I admit it, I don't have the blood lust or abilities to run down these AIs. They've got big guns and scopes and endless ammo! Odd - am I the only one who's Enter keys aren't working? I'm having to type all this without a space. *cries into hands* Any tips on either problem? I can't even see the AIs let alone shoot at them, and now I can't even find a gun before they kill me. *cries some more* :huh:

I played on it a bit, while it was a bit darkish. I see that they moved the barracks to a more logical place in chernogorsk. A lot better. I killed 3 of those ai's. They almost got me, because I wasn't very careful, since it was dark, and I was the only one on the server :). Then one of those AI's shot me,but luckily Ii was near a small building which could provide me some cover.

I think it's a nice add-on, especially on moments when the server is a bit low pop (nighttime). So you can still have some action.

Anyway. You can get them sula, just be sure to never run in the open. move from building to building if you are in a town, and plan your routes where there are trees. So you always have cover. This will buy you some time when you get hit out of the blue. Stay calm, and keep overview. It's a good training to. Humans are better opponents though.

The only problem with AI is that you start shooting on everything that moves, but that already seems the default behavior now in Dayz, so not much of a difference.

Edited July 4, 2013 by JackWalsh

[barrett_killz 229]

Vanilla means DayZ as the developers of the mod produce it. Many private hive servers add and tweak things like having extra loot, extra buildings, removing nighttime, adding extra vehicles, adding AI, adding special scripts such as self-bloodbagging and the like. In my opinion, these often spoil DayZ and turn it into something it is not "supposed" to be. When someone says they are playing vanilla or looking for a vanilla server, they want only the DayZ mod as it is released from the developers, with no additions or removals.

Are they still on the official hive?

[JoeM (DayZ) 41]

Are they still on the official hive?

There are still some private hives that are completely vanilla i believe.

[Vicco 123]

We've got AIs on our Balota Buddies UK/EU server and they are deadly. I can't cope. I'm a lousy shot and these AIs kill me about once every 10-15 minutes or every time I run more than 500 meters! I admit it, I don't have the blood lust or abilities to run down these AIs. They've got big guns and scopes and endless ammo! Odd - am I the only one who's Enter keys aren't working? I'm having to type all this without a space. *cries into hands* Any tips on either problem? I can't even see the AIs let alone shoot at them, and now I can't even find a gun before they kill me. *cries some more* :huh:

Toggle editing mode. Top left corner. Happened to me too.

You might be encountering "invisible" AI. The latest SARGE AI has an issue with that.

That happened to me too. You can walk right up to their puffs of gun barrel smoke and "see" it in action.

These were survivor/hero AI.

I put Sarge AI v1.1.0 on the server and they all became visible. Haven't been to where the solders spawn yet.

They aren't bad, better than the run of the mill human playing a bandito on Dayz. Better mannered too.

They keep their traps shut.

As somebody said, lean out from cover, shoot, back in cover.

5-6 of them jumped me yesterday in the woods. I got 3 before one of them flanked and killed me. All I had was an AK.

They had better guns.

I think Sarge is working on getting the AI guns to go poof when the AI dies. But he's just one guy.