DayZ Mod 1.7.7.1 tent placement is nerfed

[VidKo 53]

Tent placement in 1.7.7 and 1.7.7.1 is nerfed to the point of "let's make tents unusable and force everyone to use stashes"

Just one example:

On top of Olsha there is a nice place for a tent between some rocks and a bush:

But no, the game finds the placement restricted, turns you 45 degrees and places the tent there:

I mean, I get that you wanted for people to stop putting tents into rocks and in the water, but this is too far...

[Zarniwoop 1193]

I think I agree here. I tried to place a tent yesterday and could get it into anywhere that was even slightly hidden. Everything else in the patch I found alright but this is indeed going a bit too far?

[chrithu 59]

Good thing that my favorite tent placement location is unaffected by this problem.

Still I agree here. Due to the visibility of tents, hiding them between rocks was the only way of savely storing things without the need to guard them 24/7. The new checks just prevent that and it sucks.

Either this should be changed again or make large stashes available that have comparable storage to the tent. Heck looking at the size of the thing the medium stash should get at least some mor weapon/tool slots. Like make it 4 Weapons/tools 25 Items and 1 Backpack.

[marko4231 57]

Also make sandbags more available so people can actualy make stashes.

Why the hell does one need sandbags to buid it anyway, you only need a hole in ground and some branches to cover it?

Edited June 21, 2013 by marko4231

[DJ_Teschmi 31]

Tent placement in 1.7.7 and 1.7.7.1 is nerfed to the point of "let's make tents unusable and force everyone to use stashes"

Just one example:

On top of Olsha there is a nice place for a tent between some rocks and a bush:

But no, the game finds the placement restricted, turns you 45 degrees and places the tent there:

I mean, I get that you wanted for people to stop putting tents into rocks and in the water, but this is too far...

That was already discussed in the "1.7.7.1 Hotfix" thread. http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/140121-dayz-mod-1771-hotfix/page__st__160#entry1378217

As i understood RAZOR would change the way we use tents, for the moment they are stashes but in the future they will be other way to hide stuff.

That is just my opinion after reading Razor replies regarding this tents issue.

Edited June 21, 2013 by DJ_Teschmi

[Dayzo 182]

I wish someone would redesign the tent graphic/skin so that 50% of the camo pattern was simply transparent.

Then maybe there wouldn't be a need to clip tents into objects!

The graphics for the new stashes could have been made a lot harder to find too, but instead they're really quite easy to spot.

I took a run down the west of the map this morning looking to pitch a tent and, without even really looking, I found 4 separate camps because the tents and vehicles stood out so much. The server only has a total of 12 active players! I can't imagine why people would bother making camps on a full server with 200 regular players.

Finding and losing loot needs to be in balance; if spawned loot is hard to find (as it is now) then it also needs to be difficult to lose your loot. If it's easier to find and raid camps than to scavenge, then not enough people will bother to scavenge!

Edited June 24, 2013 by Anti

[VidKo 53]

Ok, some more of the bizarre restrictions:

1. Well, a normal size tent should clearly have enough space here:

2. Where is my snorkel?

3. Oh, this is supposedly flat enough?!?

I don't know if that pisses only me or is everyone else just using stashes now (because shovels and sandbags are plenty)

[enforcer1975 1111]

I wish someone would redesign the tent graphic/skin so that 50% of the camo pattern was simply transparent.

First peripheral dots have to go in any difficulty setting, then you don't need to hide it that much anymore because even blind players running in the woods relying exaclty on those dots to find things won't be helped anymore. Hiding a green camo in the woods where it's more brownish or between grey rocks is kind of stupid like playing them in plain view.

[Dayzo 182]

First peripheral dots have to go in any difficulty setting, then you don't need to hide it that much anymore because even blind players running in the woods relying exaclty on those dots to find things won't be helped anymore.

No idea about periphery dots - the servers I play on only had them for vehicles, and that was finally removed in v175.

Hiding a green camo in the woods where it's more brownish or between grey rocks is kind of stupid like playing them in plain view.

That's what I'm saying though - now that you cannot simulate 'camouflaging' a tent by clipping it right into a rock/building, you do now have to basically pitch them out in the open. So I'm suggesting that the skin be changed to transparent so that it merges into the environment better.

[Jars (DayZ) 63]

Also make sandbags more available so people can actualy make stashes.

Why the hell does one need sandbags to buid it anyway, you only need a hole in ground and some branches to cover it?

I agree , more sandbags , or substitutes required .

I have played ALOT of DayZ , and I have never had an etool and 2 sandbags .

If there were shovels / spades available in farms and sheds , and old hessian / fertilizer bags around as a substitute for sandbags , that would help alot so people could actually have a chance at digging a loot hole in the ground .

[SxyClutch 7]

I agree. This is ridiculous. Any somewhat hidden tent spot is now unusable. So unless you want to store all your goods in the middle of the forest where EVERYone can see it, tents are useless again. The only way to save stuff is vehicles which get spotted from the Air like they have neon signs above them. I've played dayz since launch, i've only ever found sandbags or a shovel and handful of times. I can tell you in all honesty in the past 50-60 hours of play i've never seen a entrench or a sandbag. If we can't save stuff what is the point? Pick up a weapon run to town die, rinse, repeat. Having a stash of goods made the game survival for me.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Well if you die IRL your stash won't be of any use to you anymore. So basically they either have to give you a cooldown time so you can't access your stash immediatly ( and some players hoard tons of weapons and go KoS after that ) or the stash really gets erased. Either way you die you lose.

[DanZZZ 0]

Tent placement is so bad now, i used to line my tents up in a nice row so i could access each one easliy and quickly. I really do not see any benefit in this at all, its just ruined tents completely, . The stashes are too small and too visble so are not worth bothering with. I really hope you can reverse this mess in a future update and put tents back to how they were before.

[fluxley 2228]

Tent placement is being redone, this is from the latest rolling changelog

* [NEW] - Object orientation system for better placement (will allow more control on object placement tents, stash, camo nets, tanktraps, sandbags, wirefence)

can be found here http://dayzmod.com/f...ling-changelog/

Also make sandbags more available so people can actualy make stashes.

Why the hell does one need sandbags to buid it anyway, you only need a hole in ground and some branches to cover it?

If all you needed was a an entrenchment tool then there would be stashes everywhere.

I imagine that the sandbag is used to wrap around the items protecting them from the dirt, though admittedly some plastic sheet would of been much more suitable, sandbags are there in game already and rarely used for anything else.

Also people saying they've hardly found any sandbags and etools in months of playing should consider that the loot table has changed and both those items are more common now.

Edited July 3, 2013 by Fluxley

[casedistorted (DayZ) 2]

Tent placement in 1.7.7 and 1.7.7.1 is nerfed to the point of "let's make tents unusable and force everyone to use stashes"

Just one example:

On top of Olsha there is a nice place for a tent between some rocks and a bush:

But no, the game finds the placement restricted, turns you 45 degrees and places the tent there:

I mean, I get that you wanted for people to stop putting tents into rocks and in the water, but this is too far...

I liked placing tents in water it made it like a secret stash and rewarded experienced players. Other players could find them if they knew where to look, now it just makes my underwater tents that were placed pre 1.7.7 that much more valuable. I hate this patch I can't place tents anywhere that aren't in the open and obvious, that's the point of having a stash so it's hidden and not obvious to the passing player. This patch is horrid I hate it.