Pay a development company to make DAYZ

[dashx73 (DayZ) 168]

TO SUM IT UP: HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED THE GAME DEFIANCE by TRION WORLDS?

That game engine would be perfectly suited for DAYZ. Please appraoch Trion to make dayz, they have everything it takes to get the game out on PC, Playstation and XBox, with the experience to get "offical" servers that you just auto connect to on startup, just play Defiance and you will see what I am talking about, this is exactly what DAyz Needs.

What i would do if i could develop the standalone version of dayz and had the funding, or producer to back up my lead, with money to develop a better dayz with a real development company, If i could, I would choose trion worlds, the creators of defiance to create or use the engine, world, and server architecture, I would recruit some of the skin and model and artists from 4A Games the creators of metro 2033, and get some of the rockstar games Grand Theft Auto, guys that designed and worked on vehicles, and 3rd person cameras and animations. I would choose very experienced people to help with this game, and not be so concerned about turning the 200k profit. Finally as project lead I wouldn't be off climbing mount everest, but i would invest my own time, sweat, blood, into this game, actually working on this game, and let the game market itself. Instead of attending countless in my old tshirt and jeans taking interviews or meetings, talking about a game that doesn't even exhists yet, because a mod is not a game, it is just a mod. Finally I wouldn't release crap youtube development blog videos that look like a 4 year old put them together and then include a my "self humored, dialog and inserts" its not funny, it just looks ammature, okay or immature or maybe both. I wouldn't hire 14 year old children to work on my development team, and finally I wouldn't hire the people who made the mod to make the game, because they couldn't even get a polished mod so how will they ever get a polished game. I would put my money and effort to push the game to a developer that has many games on their belt, so we can get this launched to all platforms, and I would put my time into developing the game instead of playing, space station 3d, or whatever the hell it is I talk about at pax. No i do not want your beans.

Arma engine is not the proper engine for this game, we need to break this tie, thanks arma you gave us a platform to develop and idea, but now we need to go to other development companys the big ones, preferably mentioned above, who have a good team and can bang this out instead of working with the 2-5 guys that have full time jobs and dayz isnt one of them.

Defiance by trion worlds is a very good example of how the server architecture should be handled and I even feel the world and design is more properly suited for the type of game that dayz wants to be.

As I am watching Dayz develop, I am thinking okay, no wonder they are worried, how can the game be a sucess when rocket, is the project lead, its just not suited for him, no offense, but give the game to someone who can develop, like actually develop it, like If i could peek in on you right now with a pair of all seeing eyes what are you even doing right now,, oh well thats right, not working on dayz..

Everytime I play the dayz mod, I gave it a go because I heard all those youtube videos and articles talking about a great, game that I couldn't find, but i could see its potential, but hey thats okay, it just needs a little push in the right directions, lets start with minecraft, it has flaws, in one thing, where are the servers!!! I want to be able to play minecraft in a server that is on 24/7 and join in a world with 1000s of other players all doing their thing in one server, and I can play with them, but that takes some real smarts to get in place, minecraft has a good idea and it was sucessful but it could have been so much more, with the proper brains behind it and the server arcitecture. These things are very important, and these things cannot be left out, do not make the same mistakes that I as an xbox player watch many developers make, they make a multiplayer game, with no server support, and expect the gamers to take care of the servers, play the game defiance, I beg you, I know you like playing games, and study their servers, heck even hire their engineers, and the people behind the structure of the game, and please next time you go to an interview or pax release, don't wear a t-shirt and jeans, wear a suit and tie, or at least a suit jacket over your t-shirt, you look like a slob, it makes the game look ammature, unless you have an awesome game, and you don't care about your apperance because you've already made your fortune, and you have the skills to back it up, then I think maybe then it might not matter, but just reading your blog, and the forums and watching this game develop I loose that faith that hey these guys really don't have what it takes to make a standalone dayz,you say okay we are almost ready, nope never mind not quite there yet, I hope you get it together, Im curious to see if you make it, if you can pull it together and polish some nice shoes and present this thing.

When I watch you talk about dayz It reminds me of those people who make promises all the time, and they never keep it, like as if a dream about one day I will give you a loaf of bread, but its just that dream will never feed me. You need to actually get the oven warmed up, make your dough and get that thing baking. Stop talking about the game, and get it made, let the game speak for itself, and let the word of mouth do your advertisment, look at other games developments, they spent the time sitting in their basement making it instead of telling people about it... I hope this gets to you.. anyway.. We all look forward to dayz standalone, but many of us are looking for a real dayz game, one that is released on ps4, the xbox one, xbox 360 arcade, pc, but you gotta start somewhere but it seems like you havent even started the race.

GO TO TRION WORLDS AND SAY HEY WE WANT YOU TO MAKE DAYZ, WE WANT YOU TO DEVELOP IT FOR THE XBOX AND FOR PC, AND WE WANT YOU TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING, YOU WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU NEED, AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT MONEY AND REDEVELOP IT FOR XBOX ONE, PC, AND PS4. Even if it isn't exactly how you want it, you will make enough money and the game will be out that you can make those changes later on in the

"next version"

Make a real dayz

Edited May 25, 2013 by dashx73

[Rage VG 4033]

Right now I am half asleep and can only see out of one eye, so forgive me if I only skim through. I noticed you don't think it should be done on the ArmA engine, and I disagree. Not only is it capable of emulating all of the things required of it, but it's something very familiar and comfortable for us. I don't think a change would be worth it, but who knows.

[dashx73 (DayZ) 168]

have you ever played the game "Defiance" the whole game world, and even the server, would be much more suitable for dayz.

Plus its on xbox and pc and ps4, they have things polished, and a great team that knows how to get a good game out. and they had it working so you can play vs pc vs xbox vs playstation, anyway the point is when you put the game in your xbox you get a connecting to server, there is no "server browser" just play the game and see for yourself, Trion worlds knows how to make make whats needed to get dayz from a slow zombie walk to the leap it needs to move forward"

Just play defiance, I think you will see for yourself there is alot that can be learned from that game, and implemented into dayz

if i could I would copy paste dayz into the defiance trion worlds engine and it would be near perfection. even the press start, charachter displayed at menu is perfectly suited for dayz.

Edited May 25, 2013 by dashx73

[Meeshe 170]

Do you work at or own stock of Trion Worlds? :P

[dashx73 (DayZ) 168]

I wish.. ^

[Beck (DayZ) 1768]

"Defiance" the whole game world, and even the server, would be much more suitable for dayz.

No.

Plus its on xbox and pc and ps4... and they had it working so you can play vs pc vs xbox vs playstation anyway

They had it "working" with server crashes daily. I wonder why that was... Maybe it was because a console can't handle a game like that and they made one shitty engine, with a game that gets bland as f@ after 4 hours of gameplay.

(The TV series is COMPLETE garbage btw)

Why does it seem like every post you make on the forums is a topic in the form of a wall-of-text. Thanks for the summary at the top.

Edited May 25, 2013 by Beck

[Meeshe 170]

LOL

I wish.. ^

Hey was just being a little snarky, but I see what your trying to say. I think you don't give BIS or the DayZ development team, Rocket included, enough credit for what they are doing though.

[dashx73 (DayZ) 168]

rocket needs to just drop everything and climb down that stupid mountain walk into Trion Worlds slap his ideas book on the counter, and plead with them to make the game from scratch. Without asking him any further questions, just take over the entire project, and give him a % of the profit when its out on xbox and ps and pc.

[colekern 1364]

No.

I'm not sure you realize this, but Bohemia is the only company that will spend time making DayZ the best it can. They delayed the game to make it better, and they will continue to do that if needed. You really think Trion worlds will do that? I don't.

As for Rocket climbing Everest, well, there's really no other option for him. He planned the trip for years, and backing out would have cost him literally up to $100,000. That basically means he would have to sell his house, his car, and, well, pretty much everything just to work on DayZ when he probably wasn't really doing a whole lot of programming himself in the first place.

And trion worlds makes mediocre Arcade games, not realistic games.

As for the engine, well, there's really not a whole lot of better engines out there they could use. The Arma engine is one of the only engines with ridiculously huge seamless worlds with realistic bullet physics. Changing engines would mean more delays.

And why are you personally insulting Rocket and the team? You said Rocket looked like a slob because he was a T-shirt and Jeans? What?! I for one am grateful that Rocket doesn't come out dressed in a suit and acting all executive-like, he's real with us.

As for the devblogs, they are EXTREMELY low on the priority list. They don't really care about making it look pretty or professional because they're to busy making the actual game.

Edited May 26, 2013 by colekern

[radrussian1 (DayZ) 23]

i dont even wanna touch this. defiance is terrible. and that engine would not fit a somewhat realistic zombie simulator.... at all. the new arma engine is amazing. the animations are looking awesome the clunkiness is gone. i dont think you've thought this through.

[dashx73 (DayZ) 168]

No.

They had it "working" with server crashes daily. I wonder why that was... Maybe it was because a console can't handle a game like that and they made one shitty engine, with a game that gets bland as f@ after 4 hours of gameplay.

(The TV series is COMPLETE garbage btw)

Why does it seem like every post you make on the forums is a topic in the form of a wall-of-text.

This was the first mechanics of this type to work on the xbox, of course it had problems but they should win world class awards for their support and constantly improving, its not about the tv show, thats just its marketing, lets just look at the game the server, the engine, and the bare bones. Everytime they had a problem, they fixed it, worked on it, or made slow fixes until it was fixed, I call that world class support,they stand behind their product and get it as close to perfection as the hardware limitations allow. and they did an awesome job at that.

[Meeshe 170]

He'll be back on Monday, per his twitter account and He hinted at a lot of info incoming.

[Beck (DayZ) 1768]

I also want to mention that Defiance is the poorest excuse for an "MMO" in existence. I racked up atleast 48 hours of gameplay and within those 48 hours I spent at least 3 trying to team up with people. NOT ONCE did I get a single response from anyone... This, I presume is because of the way the servers pair up players, I find myself among a community of people who treat the game like it is single player and everyone around them is an AI, with dedicated server you see the development of communities which add to the social aspects of the game. It is very difficult to develop a good community in a game when you are randomly placed in instances with different people every time you log on. The server system on Defiance makes it far too difficult to meet up with your friends.

Edited May 25, 2013 by Beck

[dashx73 (DayZ) 168]

I feel Dayz would be better suited to be an arcade style survial game, we don't even need realistic bullet drop, when you don't even have realistic animations that look like you are picking something up, I think it would be better as an arcade that it would be as a simulator, if thats what your calling it.. have you played defiance?

the point im saying is, Im worried about the servers, behind dayz, Im worried about the lack of professionalism, im worried, that it seems like they have no money backing it up and that they are putting the same amount of time into the game as they are the dev blog, but i guess time will tell.

[Meeshe 170]

Arcade style survival game?... OMFG please NO! I like the way they are going about it. From all looks of it, its still going to be DayZ, even if everything is different if you get what Im saying. I think you have a bunch of needless things that your worrying at but we will see. :)

[Beck (DayZ) 1768]

have you played defiance?

Yes

the point im saying is, Im worried about the servers behind dayz. Im worried about the lack of professionalism

You need to find yourself a dedicated server that works for you, just like on all games with dedicated servers you will have good ones, and you will have bad ones. The dedicated server system works best because it frees the developers the trouble of managing servers but it also allows for a better way to connect with one another, instead of being thrown into a random instance.

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

Nice try Trion Worlds.

[dallas 5195]

Defiance kind of look like War Inc.

[dashx73 (DayZ) 168]

I haven't like any game that the developers didn't take care of the servers, it causes to many problems, from admin abuse, "rules" game changes, ect..

ps. I would feel much better if I could see a "Dayz released june 2013" or a preorder now, or a on Xbox arcade, or ps3, or similar like every other game does.

Seriously Why can't we pre-order, im sure they could use the money.. at least buy rocket a new shirt to wear to pax. no never mind you said you want him to be real with you bro... why doesn't he just straight up tell you, hey " im a slacker, I dress like a slacker, the game is being developed by slackers, and hey slackers unite tomorrow.. either way.. one day I look forward to playing dayz standalone.. lets hope its in the next 20 years

Edited May 25, 2013 by dashx73

[dashx73 (DayZ) 168]

was war inc any good? I just watched a video on it, and i think even the war inc engine would make dayz cooler.

maybe I just like that defiance/ war inc style..

Edited May 25, 2013 by dashx73

[dallas 5195]

was war inc any good? I just watched a video on it, and i think even the war inc engine would make dayz cooler.

In that case I got great news for you!

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

You are either a spammer that has come to advertise another game or this forum's latest example as to why the gaming industry has turned into a sucker grinder.

I'm not sure which.

[Meeshe 170]

I haven't like any game that the developers didn't take care of the servers, it causes to many problems, from admin abuse, "rules" game changes, ect..

ps. I would feel much better if I could see a "Dayz released june 2013" or a preorder now, or a on Xbox arcade, or ps3, or similar like every other game does.

Seriously Why can't we pre-order, im sure they could use the money.. at least buy rocket a new shirt to wear to pax. no never mind you said you want him to be real with you bro... why doesn't he just straight up tell you, hey " im a slacker, I dress like a slacker, the game is being developed by slackers, and hey slackers unite tomorrow.. either way.. one day I look forward to playing dayz standalone.. lets hope its in the next 20 years

Bravo... /golf clap. you had me going there for a bit. I thought you were serious and not a troll. Fooled me. Maybe its just me but isnt the alpha release giving them money to develop the game? I mean your not buying a completed game when SA alpha comes out. Thats why we are getting a deal. And really, Rocket not wearing a suit is a problem? /sigh

[colekern 1364]

Seriously Why can't we pre-order, im sure they could use the money.. at least buy rocket a new shirt to wear to pax. no never mind you said you want him to be real with you bro... why doesn't he just straight up tell you, hey " im a slacker, I dress like a slacker, the game is being developed by slackers, and hey slackers unite tomorrow.. either way.. one day I look forward to playing dayz standalone.. lets hope its in the next 20 years

They want to develop the game at their own pace.

Imagine if they allowed pre-orders, and then they discovered a game-breaking bug a day before release. That adds a lot of pressure on the devs.

Edited May 25, 2013 by colekern

[colekern 1364]

was war inc any good? I just watched a video on it, and i think even the war inc engine would make dayz cooler.

maybe I just like that defiance/ war inc style..

Allow me to guide you to the WarZ: https://www.google.c....47008514,d.eWU

Edited May 25, 2013 by colekern