Hotfix Build 1.7.1.4 Rolling Update (was 1.7.1.3)

[Zach (DayZ) 0]

Z's are aggroing from way to far way and way to fast. My friends and I sat inside a building axing zombies over and over for an hour as the flooded in. It really hampered the game experience to the point where we just logged out because playing wasn't even fun.

[KrebsCast 6]

@Rocket - Please change the zombie agro back to pre 1.7.1. It's far too sensitive now and even the 1.7.1 patch is too sensitive. Before these patches it was perfect where we wouldn't have to crawl hundreds of metres rather close engagements. It made stealth an intense maneuver where as now it's tedious. Perhaps you could sensitize it a bit more than pre-1.7.1 but please change it, it's too much now.

[mail@borisk.biz 28]

the aggroing ist to heavy...

[octopos 26]

Just to confirm that infected can walk over walls, and some times they get sticked there, and only aggro when u'r to close.

I can aggro infected, while prone, inside of a house with all doors closed.

[mio.rogvall@gmail.com 107]

the aggroing ist to heavy...

Well trolled-

[daze23 549]

my main issue is that aggo'ing the zombies seems to make more spawn. I went into a building that seemed to have no zombies around it. thinking things were safe, I took my finger off shift to move around a little quicker. then I heard zombies getting aggro, and six came through the door

[Varg (DayZ) 0]

Some things i noticed today..

1) People with weapons etc hunting down new spawners on the beach. Really sucks being defenseless but makes sense so its like hmmm...

2) Noise and Sight are WAYY too touchy. I dont want the zombies to be bumbling idiots like before but now they have superman senses(ok maybe thats a bit too exaggerated) but still' date=' personally i feel it needs some new tweaking.

3) Gender select menu pops up EVERY TIME i spawn for some reason. Maybe bug, maybe not.

4) Zombies dying inside buildings. Perhaps it was because there was 12 zombies chasing me but they all entered the house i was in(black/drk brown house) and then 4 of them died. I assume its because of the hallway they were in, all bunched up. Just wanted to report that.

Now some ideas that may be great or shit...everyone else can decide.

1) Make the flashlight a melee weapon. I know its somewhat absurd but have you ever held a maglight(yes i know the flashlight in this game isnt one but im sure it could be). I get the need for stealth in a Z apoc but leaving noobs defenseless is just...well...a little too mean? People are out for blood in this MOD and the new ones should at least have a minuscule fighting chance.

2) Obviously just tweak the values. IMO zombies are attracted to SCENT and SOUND. Perhaps a new mechanic? I dont know...i jsut think thios may be tweaked a bit too high.

#) and most important...the hostile survivors. I get people are going to troll for fun and kill for no reason but something NEEDS to be done. The server max out at 50 people. There's no reason 45 should be hostile and not be hold somewhat accountable. I understand that the heartbeat feature was supposed to...i dunno..help? I just think its somewhat counter productive to have to place my crosshairs on someone to see if they are friendly or not. The bandit skin auto change was bad, but good in a way. At least there was no question.

Personally i dont want to play this game like its the next FPS, thats what i go to ArmA 2 for(domination and insurgency). It's really fun to meet people and survive. In an apocalypse i have to assume peopel would work together a little more than this.

Hopefully if the zombies are going to stay the way they are it will encourage people to work together but perhaps there needs to be better incentive to band together. Perhaps an adjusted spawn rate on items if in a group. Perhaps a better lobby to assign actual groups. That way if a "group" is near loot thers a 5% better chance or something?

I dont know. Hopefully my rambling makes sense or at least inspires something, although im sure it will jsut get lost in the suckers going "Game is bad pl0x, CoD noob"

Thank you, and goodnight!

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No. Nothing needs to be done to hostile survivors. It is fine right now, people getting shot and robbed like they would be in real life. There is no room for the weak.

i love pvp. but spawn camping does need to go. spawning is something that has to happen to play a game, but camping these areas is for cowards. it should be a against the law. there have been games where spawn camping was a bannable offense.

well, if you dont like spawn campers, then why dont you go and kill them bandits? The area where people spawn is really huge, so you cant really spawn camp. I think i have made 5-10 characters so far and never died of "spawn camper" and never saw one either. Lots of makarov assassins prior to 1.7.1 patch though.

Even if i was killed when spawning, then fucking what? you dont lose anything important just make new character, and even better if you hear where the shot came from and know where you spawned you could always try to find the shooter and shoot him in the back or do what the fuck you usually do to other players...

there should be punishment like ban for 48h if you die by the hands of bandit. spawning would be much more interesting then.

[wellysmut 0]

No. Nothing needs to be done to hostile survivors. It is fine right now, people getting shot and robbed like they would be in real life. There is no room for the weak.

i agree i once spawned and met up with a random player who helped me to safety and asked if i wanted to tag along with him and his friend but i thought no they went out of there way to help me so i thought i would do the same and help some one to get set up there are spawn killers but there are also people willing to help which i hope would be the case in a real situation i was happy to do a good deed for someone but i probably would not of if someone hadn't helped me we learn to adjust :)

[kalstrams 0]

To whom it may concern,

Can you tell me, is the loss of items from my inventory related to the server files not being properly updated to the last version ?

Your's faithfully,

kalstrams.

[Wired 1]

Is there a way to tell if your server is not updated all the way?

Also, still having flies on invisible bodies, also picked up an unusable crowbar that I cannot drop.

[jk1986 0]

Suggestion - increase crawl speed with primary weapons.

I think the slow crawl speed with primary weapons + not starting with a weapon can be frustrating. If you find something like a winchester as your first gun, I don't think there's a way to unequip it (without a pistol or something else to change to), so you get stuck at the slower prone movement speed, frustrating given the increased usefulness of prone after the latest patches.

Just thought, maybe you could use the torch - although I'd already ditched mine for space.

[Kingkenneh 3]

I can't seem to find any servers that don't have lazy admins and updated to 1.7.1.4 server code, people are still talking in Side chat on the game and zombies are still broken.

[usarmy.chris@hotmail.de 1]

MAN ALL IM ASKING IS IF I CAN PLAY NORMAL WITHOUT LOOSING MY GEAR?

[thebrinker72 0]

PLEASE add Makarov on spawn again! I lost every motivation in playing since I died!

You spawn without anything useful at hand and once you are seen a single time (which happens very often with that ridiculous aggro) you are endlessly hunted, just hoping for some bug to encounter.

I never even saw a reason for removing the Makarov. I have NEVER seen anyone getting spawnkilled at the beach!... even if it would have happened, you thought it would be a good idea to remove the only standard spawn-protection?

Now there are a ton of corpses from players who got eaten by zombies, being the defenseless puppet they are at the beginning.

I hate how I always have to sprint to my fully equipped friends or have to wait for them, to even start playing properly.

[sivart 85]

MAN ALL IM ASKING IS IF I CAN PLAY NORMAL WITHOUT LOOSING MY GEAR?

go play. rocket said some players had to be reset. if you lost your gear, its already gone, man. waiting wont bring it back. whats so hard about getting new gear anyway?

[mr.shaw112@gmail.com 0]

QUIT ROLLING OUT UPDATES EVERY 5 HOURS, SOME OF US JUST WANT TO PLAY.

[[Gen]Adzic 241]

To be honest I thought DayZ was awesome enough before these recent patches and hotfixes to fix the patches, now it's WAY too awkward to play, extremely annoying and is fast losing its replay value and fun factor.

I know its meant to be a survival horror type game but c'mon now, how can anyone be expected to stick around and play this when they get killed after 5 minutes of running from a zombie, too pissed off to keep running and just give up. I crawled prone into a building (subsequently with one entrance and exit) to find nothing inside, nothing to defend myself with and somehow zombies saw or heard me inside there and overwhelmed me within 2 minutes, I couldn't even get out of there. I just shut the game down pissed off and came here to express my opinion.

I know all this patching, changing and adding new stuff is a bunch of ideas and tests to better the game, but honestly... sometimes you have to step back, see what concept originally pulled in the huge interest and playerbase and work on that, realize that with adding or removing too much you can easily alienate players from what they fell in love with and truly I can already see that beginning to happen. You only have to read 90% of current forum posts to see that the recent changes have started to distance players from the game.

AND, Before someone chimes in "ITS FUCKING ALPHA YOU PLUM".. it maybe alpha yes, but certain game changing, changes can make a BIG difference and can quite easily turn a fan into a hater. I know this because I hate it how it currently is where as before I truly loved it.

[Wanny 0]

1.7.0 I had the best online experience I ever had with any game. It was just that fun. Now, not so much, I don't feel like loggin...

[disastr 7]

Has civilian clothing bug been fixed yet? I put on new clothes and forgot to switch them back.before i.logged out. Now Im worried ill get sent to the debug zone

[daze23 549]

Z's are aggroing from way to far way and way to fast. My friends and I sat inside a building axing zombies over and over for an hour as the flooded in. It really hampered the game experience to the point where we just logged out because playing wasn't even fun.

yep, I mean would it so unrealistic if you killed all the zeds in an area, and actually got a moment of peace and quiet? I understand they need to spawn again at some point, but having infinite zeds keep attacking you isn't particularly "realistic"

[Guest]

1.7.0 I had the best online experience I ever had with any game. It was just that fun. Now' date=' not so much, I don't feel like loggin...

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[ToasterDiagramm 62]

MAN ALL IM ASKING IS IF I CAN PLAY NORMAL WITHOUT LOOSING MY GEAR?

Forget about your gear! This is alpha. You can bet there will be some kind of reset for beta or full release. Who cares? We are hear for testing! Loosing stuff can be part of it.

@Zomba:

Don't give up on it. I'm sure if Zs AI is finally reasonable, than it will work out fine. Loosing them after a chase, might also be easier.

[danielbpc2 0]

taking out the makarov made sense, because not everybody in the world have a gun inside his house, i get it.... but the zombies with death meat bodys really got to have superman senses? (exagerating i know...) please it was awesome on 1.7.1, i don't want stupid zombies around, but zombies with heartbeat sensor is too much...

(sorry if i offend somebody, somehow with this commet)

[martin_hjerpe@hotmail.com 22]

I gave up with playing seriously this patch, It's pretty much impossible to avoid zombies so I just run around aggroing everyone and then try to find a player to troll with the horde.

Game isn't fun anymore.

[dph314 2]

QUIT ROLLING OUT UPDATES EVERY 5 HOURS' date=' SOME OF US JUST WANT TO PLAY.

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........do I even bother responding? My God. Please leave.

Quit updating? Some just wanna play? Go BUY a game then. The rest of us are testing this one. Go play something you paid for.