CZ75 automatic (handgun)

[LancerG2 369]

Hey everybody, New to the forums here but I'm literally obsessed with Day Z anyway I just found a little quote somewhere saying this:

"Chernarus is a 225 km² open world, devastated by an unknown infection that has wiped out most of its population, turning some of them into mindless zombies. That is where DayZ takes place. It's a fictional creation based on areas of the Czech Republic, where ArmA developer Bohemia Interactive is located.*"

So if Day Z is based in the Czech Republic, Russia, Serbia etc. Why don't we add a handgun that comes from the Czech Republic and compensates for its low damage for a very high fire rate, Thats right. This is an automatic pistol. The CZ75.

The weapon uses the 9x19mm Parabellum cartliage and the Automatic varient uses the average 15 round magazine. This pistol was made in 1975 and it isn't considered obsolete and would be used by millitary forces today.

There are a few varient of this handguns. But the varient I am focusing on is the Automatic varient. The semi-automatic varient would be a pointless aspect to add to the game because we have plently of semi-auto pistols and the only automatic weapon that fits into the pistol catergory is the PDW (Micro Uzi) and thats rare.

In gameplay this weapon should roughtly do about 899 blood. However the pistol should be weaker than the M9 and stronger than the Makarov. So to eliminate a human player it would take 5 shots. A zombie may take even less (I lack knowlage of the comparison of zombies and humans in Day Z), also considering the CZ75 is a millitary weapon it should be rare - uncommon.

The CZ75 automatic speaks for itself. Having a high firerate the rate of fire would be very fast. However recoil would be moderate. Also the weapon is automatic and has a very distinctive noise to it making it loud to roughly 250 metres.

Overall this would suit the game for one of the pistols (second to the PDW) that any hero, bandit, average player would like. The low damage is compensated for high rate of fire and the cartliage the weapon uses makes sure that even if you spray and pray this weapon would be very versitile and useful against enemies.

Finally an Image on this awsome gun.

The CZ75 automatic varient, itself. The varient without the grip (Trust me the grip is just ugly, Its just a makeshift magazine).

http://www.indumil.g...eft_enlarge.jpg

*http://dayzdb.com/database/chernarus - My source on Churnus

(edit) Forgot to be more specific, The CZ75 automatic, Not just CZ75.

Edited March 26, 2013 by LancerG2

[-Gews- 7443]

Huh, most CZ75s aren't automatic. No auto variants, please.

There's a two or three CZ75 variants in the Army of the Czech Republic DLC. It wouldn't be hard to port one.

In gameplay this weapon should roughtly do about 899 blood. However the pistol should be weaker than the M9 and stronger than the Makarov. So to eliminate a human player it would take 5 shots.

Why would it be weaker than an M9?

Also, to eliminate a player:

12,000 divided by 889 = 14 shots

Edited March 25, 2013 by Gews

[LancerG2 369]

Huh, most CZ75s aren't automatic.

There's a two or three CZ75 variants in the Army of the Czech Republic DLC.

Yes but there is still an automatic varient my friend. And this weapon isn't featured in DayZ but it would be a good aspect to have a unique pistol.

[-Gews- 7443]

Yes but there is still an automatic varient my friend. And this weapon isn't featured in DayZ but it would be a good aspect to have a unique pistol.

Mmmmmmm perhaps, but they're pretty uncommon. If I was going to introduce a fully-automatic sidearm I would probably choose the vz.61 since that's in the game already (it needs to be bumped in damage though, easy task, it's ridiculously weak).

[Henryllex~ 407]

But, we dont already have the pdw? the pdw sucks ALOT tho. i would say that more russian gunz plz, and pls bump up damage for pistols, atleast a 7shot kill.

[LancerG2 369]

Mmmmmmm perhaps, but they're pretty uncommon. If I was going to introduce a fully-automatic sidearm I would probably choose the vz.61 since that's in the game already (it needs to be bumped in damage though, easy task, it's ridiculously weak).

I guess. But the CZ75 is a damn sexy pistol. This VZ61 doesn't tickle my fancy. And if it's uncommon IRL then it would make the aspect of finding it in the game would be the same.

(Edit) The VZ61? The scorpion. Ewww.

Edited March 25, 2013 by LancerG2

[-Gews- 7443]

But, we dont already have the pdw? the pdw sucks ALOT tho. i would say that more russian gunz plz, and pls bump up damage for pistols, atleast a 7shot kill.

We have the PDW, true... but I'd rather see something that fits the Eastern European / former Soviet setting a bit better.

I guess. But the CZ75 is a damn sexy pistol. This VZ61 doesn't tickle my fancy. And if it's uncommon IRL then it would make the aspect of finding it in the game would be the same.

(Edit) The VZ61? The scorpion. Ewww.

Ya, the Skorpion. I wouldn't want to see the Skorpion in-game as it currently exists, it's just too weak... would take up to 24 shots to kill someone.

The automatic variant of the CZ-75 is incredibly rare though - ya, it could be incredibly rare in the game too, but there's only so many weapons they can include, so I have to give priority to ones I'd be more likely to see IRL.

[LancerG2 369]

Why would it be weaker than an M9?

Also, to eliminate a player:

12,000 divided by 889 = 14 shots

But DayZ offical wiki says with makarov it does 889 blood but take 6 - 8 shots to kill. Lolwut?

[LancerG2 369]

But, we dont already have the pdw? the pdw sucks ALOT tho. i would say that more russian gunz plz, and pls bump up damage for pistols, atleast a 7shot kill.

Yeah replace the PDW with the full sized Uzi and put it in the SMG class.

[Draco122 412]

In my opinion I think the CZ-75 should be added, but not as the full auto variant and should not replace the M9. It should do the same damage as the other 9mm handguns but be found within residental spawn zones at a lower chance than the Makarov. It should be placed alongside the idea that the former chernarussion police force used it as their standard handgun which replaced the ageing makarovs that were previously used.

As for the Vz.61 Skorpion, I'd say add that too but bump the damage equal to the Makarov or other 9mm weapons and add them to Residental Spawns as an extremely rare drop or in military zones at a common drop. Like above, I'd imagine the Czech Police would also use it as a sidearm or machine pistol.

The PDW should remain but just rename it to Micro Uzi, I'm all for adding the full size one too for an additional SMG besides the Mp5 and Bizon. Perhaps add a Suppressed version also to compete with the MP5 SD

[-Gews- 7443]

But DayZ offical wiki says with makarov it does 889 blood but take 6 - 8 shots to kill. Lolwut?

I dunno why it says that, players start out with 12,000 blood, so it should take 14 body shots to kill a perfectly-healthy player. The Makarov used to kill in 6 shots. Perhaps they meant zombies.

[LancerG2 369]

In my opinion I think the CZ-75 should be added, but not as the full auto variant and should not replace the M9. It should do the same damage as the other 9mm handguns but be found within residental spawn zones at a lower chance than the Makarov. It should be placed alongside the idea that the former chernarussion police force used it as their standard handgun which replaced the ageing makarovs that were previously used.

As for the Vz.61 Skorpion, I'd say add that too but bump the damage equal to the Makarov or other 9mm weapons and add them to Residental Spawns as an extremely rare drop or in military zones at a common drop. Like above, I'd imagine the Czech Police would also use it as a sidearm or machine pistol.

The PDW should remain but just rename it to Micro Uzi, I'm all for adding the full size one too for an additional SMG besides the Mp5 and Bizon. Perhaps add a Suppressed version also to compete with the MP5 SD

I wan't implying to replace the M9. Just add a new handgun to the range. And I would rather perfer a automatic pistol that does the same damage as a glock than a semi auto pistol that does the same damage like the Revolver.

[-Gews- 7443]

I wan't implying to replace the M9. Just add a new handgun to the range. And I would rather perfer a automatic pistol that does the same damage as a glock than a semi auto pistol that does the same damage like the Revolver.

Hmm, I actually wouldn't mind if the CZ-75 replaced the M9 since a Czech weapon would fit the setting better than Italian / US Army firearms.

But not the automatic variant... it would be so ridiculously rare you'd never see one... also I don't think it would be a very practical weapon. Perhaps a Stetchkin, there are various little Eastern European SMGs they could add too.

[LancerG2 369]

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[Noszombie 284]

I think this would be a good weapon to add. Or at the very least a different variant.

[enforcer1975 1111]

I dunno why it says that, players start out with 12,000 blood, so it should take 14 body shots to kill a perfectly-healthy player. The Makarov used to kill in 6 shots. Perhaps they meant zombies.

Depends on the hit locations and distances you were shot at or if either one or two swallows have to carry a coconut ...there are a lot of factors.

[-Gews- 7443]

Depends on the hit locations and distances you were shot at or if either one or two swallows have to carry a coconut ...there are a lot of factors.

Ya, at the muzzle it does 889 damage but ten feet away and it will do slightly less... 50 yards and even less again... I don't know exactly how hit locations like legs alter damage, and there's a fair chance of hitting someone else's weapon too.

My first thread on here was about surviving 3 Makarov mags at point blank range :lol:

[LancerG2 369]

Well considering there are thugs everywhere this gun should be like a thugs weapon. Make it very rare compared to the normal variant. We all win.

[Testwd3r235 2810]

I don't like the idea of a fully automatic secondary, makes like to easy for snipers.

[lipemr 160]

i'm all for adding these, but as a extremely rare residential spawn, and being a pain in the ass to get ammunition.

i think there should be more SMGs in game too, UZIs or a .45ACP UMP would be a great addition to the game.

[m.w. vindicator 880]

Debate the pistol not gun damage. If the devs are sane they will make pistols do realistic damage (in the game, not mod) ie. kill in about 1-4 shots. It is weird how a game that is realistic every where else has pathetic gun simulation.

A support the CZ75 but I don't think fully automatic variants would be easy to find at all. Standard models, sure, but automatic aren't common no matter the weapon.

[Ohly 26]

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did you see the extended barel? It's a fully modified handgun it normal that a modified handgun can be auto, I can make a 1911 full auto if I want but this will be the worst sh** to do, you sacrifice all the mechanism to get a sh*t full auto

glocks are designed to be full auto, with easy to replace mech parts not a cz 75 ! It will kill all of its precision

[-Gews- 7443]

id you see the extended barel? It's a fully modified handgun it normal that a modified handgun can be auto

Actually CZ did make a full-auto version.

http://www.czub.cz/e...mm-automat.aspx

The CZ75 Automatic first appeared in 1992 and was intended for special police and military forces. To help control the gun, a spare magazine can be fitted upside down into a special attachment under the front of the slide, where it then assists the user as a front pistol grip. The CZ75 :Automatic has been fitted with a longer ported or compensated barrel as well as with the standard length barrel.

However it's extremely rare and if I saw one in the game I'd think to myself "what the fuck is this gun doing here"? It would be cool in almost any normal shooter, but DayZ is going for a more realistic feel, and in DayZ I believe the weapons should try to be plausible, and fit the setting.

I can make a 1911 full auto if I want but this will be the worst sh** to do, you sacrifice all the mechanism to get a sh*t full auto

Lehman and Swartz been there, done that. :lol:

The fact these types of fully automatic pistols are so rare suggests they are not very effective weapons, at least outside of very specific situations. True "machine pistols" have been around since the days of the Broomhandle Mausers but they've never caught on, and there's a good reason for that.

[Ohly 26]

Actually CZ did make a full-auto version.

http://www.czub.cz/e...mm-automat.aspx

The CZ75 Automatic first appeared in 1992 and was intended for special police and military forces. To help control the gun, a spare magazine can be fitted upside down into a special attachment under the front of the slide, where it then assists the user as a front pistol grip. The CZ75 :Automatic has been fitted with a longer ported or compensated barrel as well as with the standard length barrel.

However it's extremely rare and if I saw one in the game I'd think to myself "what the fuck is this gun doing here"? It would be cool in almost any normal shooter, but DayZ is going for a more realistic feel, and in DayZ I believe the weapons should try to be plausible, and fit the setting.

Lehman and Swartz been there, done that. :lol:

The fact these types of fully automatic pistols are so rare suggests they are not very effective weapons, at least outside of very specific situations. True "machine pistols" have been around since the days of the Broomhandle Mausers but they've never caught on, and there's a good reason for that.

i agrée with you to say that they might bot be really effective , if you want a compact full auto, look for a Glock or something design for that, but the purpose of a pistol for me is not being auto but being à side arm , in an active airsofter and i already have a g36 AEG so i dont have any reason to get à full auto pistol ,

btw. Cz 75 is a beautiful pistol and it feels like a glove in hand never get tired of having it in hand

[applejaxc 2500]

I'm sorry... but the CZ75 is a piece of shit. Having used one in real life, stripping and armoring for half an hour, I HATE the CZ. Now that there will be the new item degradation, I'd suspect poorly maintained weapons could jam. In the apocalypse, your CZ75 would crap out pathetically quickly.