Correct gun & item names for the standalone please

[-Leon- 20]

I noticed in the mod that the names and descriptions for a lot of guns & items are incorrect and make no sense at all. Same goes to the function of some items / guns.

So i want to ask the dev-team to please do some research before giving your items some inappropriate names and descriptions. Or just hire someone who has the specific knowledge.

I know a lot of people don't care about this, but as i know some things about this stuff, it kind of realy bothers me as it is just unrealistic and wrong.

Just a few examples:

- You call your regular M16 / M4 magazines "Stanag magazine" ... STANAG stands for "Standardization Agreement" and relates to specific procedures, equipment and so on within the NATO. It doenst just relate to one type of ammunition.

- The G36 can take those "stanag" magazines .. but in reality the g36 has it's own magazines. There is a special adapter for the g36 to take M16 magazines, but then it can't take G36 magazines anymore.

- You can't fire regular "stanag" rounds with your silenced m4 ... that's also just bullshit. And please call the rounds "Sub Sonic" no "SD".

i could go on, but i guess i made my point.

So, i hope rocket or someone from the standalone dev-team reads this and takes my request into consideration.

Thank you.

[Pokey (DayZ) 103]

I'd hate to see other things that bother you, because this is very trivial indeed. Hell, I wouldn't care if they called the mags "Super-Duper-Bullets-of-Friendship-Fun", but maybe I'm an oddball.

[Masterfocker 103]

They have more important things to do than worry about guns being 100% right.

[Dancing.Russian.Man 1631]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STANAG_magazine

As far as I understand, reading all the information on that page, "STANAG magazine" is correct.

Edit; But I do agree that correct information is ALWAYS a plus. And more-so should always be correct.

But it's not something so important that they should be worrying about it now.

Edited March 2, 2013 by Dancing.Russian.Man

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

STANAG magazine can refer to any magazine which is compatible with NATO standard 5.56 equipment.

The only way to be more specific would be to label individual mags with serial/part numbers, which would be totally unnecessary IMO, considering they are all the same make and model in game.

The g36 has a magwell adapter to allow use of STANAG mags, but it's also removable is it not? *

Mistakes or false info in DayZ can be attributed to restrictions in the mod or the fact that such things weren't accounted for in ArmA.

Every part of every weapon is being recreated from scratch for SA.

EDIT:

* Just looked at the magwell mod, it's just a pivot and a grub-screw to swap out. Nothing major.

Edited March 2, 2013 by Chabowski

[liquidmind 320]

the only reason you can use different ammo with the guns is that you cannot put bullets in mags individually.

I cannot tell you, why you can transform some mags like dmr/m24, but not other ammo the same caliber, but considering that weapons are completely remade I think we will see some changes here in SA.

[-Leon- 20]

http://en.wikipedia....STANAG_magazine

As far as I understand, reading all the information on that page, "STANAG magazine" is correct.

Edit; But I do agree that correct information is ALWAYS a plus. And more-so should always be correct.

But it's not something so important that they should be worrying about it now.

it may have been the plan to set one type of mag as a standard for 5,56 but that didn't realy work out .. also there is more than just one nato caliber with it's own stanag number.

no one realy refers to them as stanag magazines as it's kind of an old term and it was only important for the manufacturers to make "stanag compliant" products / mags.

Everyone just refers to the mags as AR15 or M16 mags ... or just USGI mags in the US - compared to the PMAGs for example.

They have more important things to do than worry about guns being 100% right.

That is true my friend.

All i am sying is:

They are adding a lot of equipment and guns to the game, maybe even things we did not have in the mod. Therefore they have to give these items a name and description ... and all i am asking is: if you have to write something about these (new) items, just take 5 more minutes and use wikipedia so that you get it right.

Or just let someone look over it so that there are no big mistakes .. (even i would do it for free).

the only reason you can use different ammo with the guns is that you cannot put bullets in mags individually.

I cannot tell you, why you can transform some mags like dmr/m24, but not other ammo the same caliber, but considering that weapons are completely remade I think we will see some changes here in SA.

I guess there are more (correct) possibilities with the standalone, you are right.

Taking the bullets out of the DMR mag and put them into your m24 makes sense as the m24 has an internal magazine. But if you have an empty DMR mag it should also be possible the other way around ;-)

And why can you use ur NV only with the DMR (scope)? ... even though it's not a perfect fit to use NV goggles with a scoped rifle and can make some troubles.

I know it's all not that important, but if they do things from scratch anyway - why not do it right?

Edited March 2, 2013 by -Leon-

[Clumzy (DayZ) 377]

Last time I checked, you couldn't fire regular rounds out of an SD weapon in game. Although I can't really tell if you're saying you shouldn't be able to do that and you think that it's currently possible in game, or if you're pointing out that it should be possible in game.

Edited March 2, 2013 by Clumzy

[-Leon- 20]

right now you can not fire regular 5,56 rounds (stanag) out of a silenced m4 .. but in fact that is absolutely possible in real life and even common practice in close quarter situations.

also you can fire subsonic ammo out of an unsuppressed m4 / m16 even though it is less effective than regular (supersonic) rounds.

[Dango 23]

right now you can not fire regular 5,56 rounds (stanag) out of a silenced m4 .. but in fact that is absolutely possible in real life and even common practice in close quarter situations.

also you can fire subsonic ammo out of an unsuppressed m4 / m16 even though it is less effective than regular (supersonic) rounds.

when you shoot SS rounds out of a regular m4 in game they are very inaccurate.

[-Gews- 7443]

More gripes:

-Why is the PDW named the PDW?

-Why is the Winchester a slug-firing shotgun?

-Why can the PDW take Glock 17, MP5, and M9 magazines?

-Why can the MP5 take Glock magazines?

-Why do the Sa58s take AKM magazines?

-Why is it called an Sa58?

-Why do the M24 and M40A3 take "magazines"?

What's with the "subsonic" 5.56mm anyways? Subsonic 5.56 would be super ineffective, basically a glorified .22. Even with heavy bullets it would be awfully, awfully weak, and more concerning, probably wouldn't cycle the action properly, or would give a large chance of feeding problems/jams.

There is subsonic 5.45mm though, so...? I'm pretty sure there was also a subsonic 5.56mm produced for the SEALs or something like that, but as far as I recall it didn't cycle the action and was used to eliminate sentries, then they would switch to the standard stuff...

[remlap 6]

a suppressed weapon would have to use "sub sonic " rounds otherwise the silencer becomes ineffective to the point you wouldn't bother using it. the sub sonic rounds fire slightly less than the speed of sound that way they dont make the sane ammount of sound but keep enough velocity to still be deadly. - just sharing my knowledge -rem :beans:

[OfficerRaymond 2064]

http://en.wikipedia....STANAG_magazine

As far as I understand, reading all the information on that page, "STANAG magazine" is correct.

Edit; But I do agree that correct information is ALWAYS a plus. And more-so should always be correct.

But it's not something so important that they should be worrying about it now.

LOL, I was about to post the same exact link.

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