Mongo Strongrod 0 Posted January 30, 2013 Just wanted to inform the community to avoid this private hive. I will paste what I wrote on their forums after what my friends and I experienced."My friends and I have been enjoying playing on your DayZ server for about a week now. You know us from out [THAC0] tags in game.Last night after two hours of looking for vehicles in and around towns we decided to go on a camp hunt, a perfectly acceptable tactic in DayZ where the resources are limited.Starting at the NW airfield we plotted a grid search along the in bound areas of the map. I move N-NW then South while my partner moved North then East. After about an hour of searching my partner noticed a MTVR silhouette on the top of a distant mountain, he took out his binoculars and confirmed.He moved to the camp, got in a vehicle and picked me up so we could return.When we reached the camp we found 2 tents, a MTVR, URAL civ, UAZ, Van, MI-17, UH-1, SUV, two offroad trucks, one white one red, and gear in most of the vehicles and tents.My partner and I took weapons and equipment, the SUV and the UH-1. We didn't destroy the camp, flatten the tents nor did we damage any of the vehicles left because that's not how we are.We found the camp through time and effort on the ground, took what we needed and left the rest.I log in today and find that I have been transported to a remote island, certain weapons have been removed from my inventory, and I can only imagine that the vehicles have been magically returned to their camp.This is a childish move. Its part of the game to have your camp raided and should be no surprise sense the camp was really easy to find once we started our search pattern.I know this is a private hive server hosted by RU, and I did enjoy my time here, however if you didn't want anything like this to happen you should have password protected your server, not allowing outside players to come in and try to fight for the resources you have hoarded. There is no excuse for this kind of childish behavior by your admin to take back his ball and go home.I will copy and post this on the DayZ official forums and warn people off from your server, warning them not to waste their time here.Thank you for being yet another immature and childish clan in the gaming community.~Mongo Strongrod of [THAC0]"This clans website is http://rebelsunitedclan.com/smf2/index.phpAvoid them if you want to enjoy your DayZ time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) i will post the same response here as i posted in our forums" 1st of all that is admin base,. nothing is horded there. privately spawned things for us to use to help our player. as we do an a regular basis. when you come steel things from the admin base you take things we have to help other players, i have been on several times and asked if you needed anything and you always dont answer or say no. you didnt need any of the things you took from us. you took a chopper and an suv. and high end weapons. that you didnt need as you said you only took what you needed. i moved you to your buddy so you could play together. if you need something from the admins ask, of when we offer speak up. dont steel it."we have a very great player base that we help often. you can ask any one else on the server we offer to help at least once a day. but if you want to steel from the admins when we offer to help you then you dont need to play on our server anyway. Edited January 30, 2013 by sm0ker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted January 30, 2013 The fact that you spawn in items for yourself is stupid, regardless of what your purpose is. It's like saying it's alright for a hacker to teleport around bloodbagging people.OP's post will not be removed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 30, 2013 what i meant was the items there are not taken from any one there are several of them on the server for other players to have. no need to steel from the admins. and no its not like saying that. but whatever. there are several servers that have camps set up for the helping of new players, with things spawned in by admins. so i guess excuse us for HELPING players. as i said before you dont like how we run our server. dont play on it. we are ranked in the top 900 out of some 2600 servers must not be that bad of a server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16185 Posted January 30, 2013 Hello thereIMHO spawning items in for any reason goes against the ideals behind DAYZ, but as you say there are other servers to choose from.Criticism of servers is allowed on these forums as long as it tries to be constructive.RgdsOrLoK 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 30, 2013 Hello thereIMHO spawning items in for any reason goes against the ideals behind DAYZ, but as you say there are other servers to choose from.Criticism of servers is allowed on these forums as long as it tries to be constructive.RgdsOrLoKnothing constructive about the op Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted January 30, 2013 what i meant was the items there are not taken from any one there are several of them on the server for other players to have. no need to steel from the admins. and no its not like saying that. but whatever. there are several servers that have camps set up for the helping of new players, with things spawned in by admins.Punishing those, who steal from your camp, in illegitimate ways is not something that would make your server look good.Spawning in items for others doesn't make your server look good, either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 30, 2013 didnt say i spawn items for others did i. i said we use our supplies to help other players. when the server was set up the vehicles in which he is referring to were spawned in extra for us to use in the help of players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mongo Strongrod 0 Posted January 30, 2013 "we have a very great player base that we help often. you can ask any one else on the server we offer to help at least once a day. but if you want to steel from the admins when we offer to help you then you dont need to play on our server anyway."I understand that you help other players and that is very noble. There are some players who don't want the help and like the challenge of finding their own equipment.My team and I are not alone among the non clan players on your server who cannot find a vehicle spawn anywhere.As for us "stealing (steeling)" from the admin camp, how were we to know it's the admin camp? We didn't target you, we found you and you got "Butt-hurt". Sorry to use this base and offensive term but it fits this situation to a T. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) it was an admin camp and you knew it cuz the only suv is admin owned and was stated on the server many times. and there are over 100 other vehicles on the server many still at spawns. untouched by anyone. most of which are on the cost. there are 2 buses in cherno. you couldnt of looked to hard Edited January 30, 2013 by sm0ker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pierce194 0 Posted January 30, 2013 "we have a very great player base that we help often. you can ask any one else on the server we offer to help at least once a day. but if you want to steel from the admins when we offer to help you then you dont need to play on our server anyway."I understand that you help other players and that is very noble. There are some players who don't want the help and like the challenge of finding their own equipment.My team and I are not alone among the non clan players on your server who cannot find a vehicle spawn anywhere.As for us "stealing (steeling)" from the admin camp, how were we to know it's the admin camp? We didn't target you, we found you and you got "Butt-hurt". Sorry to use this base and offensive term but it fits this situation to a T.Well if you truly did play on the server you would know what the admins had vehicle wise and recognize them. The only vehicle of the mentioned list that was spawned was the MTVR the rest were found legitimately. However, if you are such a "mature" clan anyway, why would you come crying to the community instead of trying to resolve the issue with the admins first? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mongo Strongrod 0 Posted January 30, 2013 Thank you for allowing us to play on your server sm0ker, but we will not be returning.To address the admin camp and gear, I ask again how do you know we knew that was admin gear. The simple fact still remains, it's on the server we found it, and you chose the low road. No warrning, no "Hey did you know those are the admins, pleas go to our website and read the TOS" none of that, just a childish response on the server and now in this DayZ thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 30, 2013 i dont feel the response is childish. i took action and assumed you would contact me about it and not take a childish action yourself and make a big post about it on these forums. and as was stated SUV is admin vehicle on our server. been said in game several times and i know you have been on when that has happen. i also made the offer to put you at your base and give you the gear you had prior to steeling from the admins. who again use their gear to help other players. if you do not wish to return to our server that is your choice but i would ask you dont spam our name as bad all over these forums. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pierce194 0 Posted January 30, 2013 And you still went on here without trying to resolve it first. Childish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) "To address the admin camp and gear, I ask again how do you know we knew that was admin gear. The simple fact still remains, it's on the server we found it, and you chose the low road. No warrning, no "Hey did you know those are the admins, pleas go to our website and read the TOS" none of that, just a childish response on the server and now in this DayZ thread."also you were not on. and i wished to handle this as soon as i saw. and you dont feel that spaming us as a bad server before talking to us wasnt the low road? Edited January 30, 2013 by sm0ker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mongo Strongrod 0 Posted January 30, 2013 I made one post about my experience on your server.The only information my team and I truly knew was the information on the log in page given by the MOTD, that simply stated that it's a family friendly server so no swearing and Hackers will be banned if caught. There was nothing about don't take the SUV or anything about an "Admin Camp".You are making assumptions that anyone knows your clans rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 30, 2013 if you pay attention to side chat. we have talked about it several times. i know i have seen you on when we have talked about it. and yes you only made one post. one here, one on my website. and i am asking that you please remove this post. we have offered to set you back to how you were before this whole situation come about. i will take in to thought adding to the MOTD. thank you for that idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DemonGroover 8836 Posted January 30, 2013 As far as i am concerned, anything on the map, anything is fair game and if it gets taken, stolen or blown up then that is just part of the game.Punishing players for taking admin 'gear' is not on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) As far as i am concerned, anything on the map, anything is fair game and if it gets taken, stolen or blown up then that is just part of the game.Punishing players for taking admin 'gear' is not on.well when you run the server you can make your rules this is our server and our rules. thanks tho. we dont ask a lot from our players. just to not mess with the admin base. as we dont play to play. we play to help our players. we find things stock up and give them away Edited January 30, 2013 by sm0ker 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muddr 2 Posted January 30, 2013 I just wanted to post that in the last 3-4 weeks that I've been on this server I've had a pretty good time. The admins are active and helpful and go out of their way to go help someone that needs assistance. :beans: If a hacker does get on there, they are banned and if need be the server is rolled back a few minutes to fix any damage they did, or the players are helped to get there gear back. The admins do a "Hunt the admin" night, where all the players that want to join in can group up and kill the admins then go share their gear, it’s fun to group up and kill the admins. :P As far as them hording vehicles, they don't have anything on the amount my guys and I have. ha haon a side note: Private hives are inherently ran different then the main hive, which is kind of the point of it being a private hive, So to say that this isn't how dayz is supposed to be doesn't really apply, since private hives tend to be modded in some way, vehicles, weather, refuel scripts, etc..And there's nothing constructive about this thread and I agree it should have been taken care of on their site/server before coming here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmashT 10907 Posted January 30, 2013 It's your server, you can run it however you like but we aren't going to remove criticism about the server because you don't want to see it. People are free to post their experiences, you can respond and others can make their own decisions if they want to play there or not. Please keep in mind there are plenty of other servers to choose from at your discretion if you aren't happy with how a particular one is being run. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTD IwazInYoMom69 2 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) Let me say this about RU. When I first got the game, I despised it. I hated the fact that you started with nothing, and I hated that people would just randomly kill you for no reason, when you had nothing to help them in the first place.However one night I stumbled upon the RU server where the people were actually helpful and fun to play with. Not only do the admins help by giving you rides, throwing "hunt the admin parties" where at the end you get a bunch of high value gear, there is a general partnership within the factions on the server. For the most part we all help each other out and try not to wage major wars, to keep the peace and longevity of the game. This is the first time that I have ever played Day Z for more than a few minutes at a time. The admins and players of the RU server have made this game worth the money a friend spent on it for me LOL.As for you Mongo, if you come into a server like this, purposely play against how everyone else plays and expect nothing to happen you are not as smart and I took you for. I don't want to hear, you didn't know. You responded to the talks that centered around you and how you play. You knew exactly how the server typically flowed and you still went out of your way to make it difficult for others.Here is my response on the site."Let me start by saying this, this is not my server so I do not make the rules I just try to keep all groups at piece. As I hate dying in this game lol.With that said, your tactics of the game versus the general populations style of play is what gets you in trouble. When "most" of the factions on the server come across peoples stuff we leave it alone. We realize there is always places to find stuff. And if your being impatient and not really following along with "acceptable tactics" by actually going city to city and finding what you need then don't play and for sure don't come and complain when you get put in your place about it....There are over 100 vehicles on that server. There isn't probably half that are found. Stop trying to take everyone else hard earned items because your to lazy to play the game with "appropriate tactics". If it was my server and we had the style that we do now and you did what you did I would have banned you. Just remember this isn't the first time you have gone out of your way to be a non participant with the format the server generally follows. And when you do that do you really expect not to be reprimanded??? For me I would just say don't let the door hit you on the way out, this is their server, their rules, be a man and accept it. But no, you had to take it all the way over to another forum and complain like a little child, ironic enough considering you are throwing the same accusations at them...I'm going to help clean up the mess you left when you crapped your way out of this place...Good riddance!" Edited January 30, 2013 by GTD IwazInYoMom69 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) It's your server, you can run it however you like but we aren't going to remove criticism about the server because you don't want to see it. People are free to post their experiences, you can respond and others can make their own decisions if they want to play there or not. Please keep in mind there are plenty of other servers to choose from at your discretion if you aren't happy with how a particular one is being run.I dont mind criticism. But itsnt it supposed to be constructive? Nothing on.the op is constructive. and its not that i dont want to see it. but again ITS NOT CONSTRUCTIVE IN ANY WAY Edited January 31, 2013 by sm0ker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mongo Strongrod 0 Posted January 31, 2013 I'm sorry I cannot seem to make clear what I'm trying to tell the RU guys and those who came to their aid. Simply put once again, my team and I did in fact spend a lot of time on server in cities and towns searching for and finding gear.The OP is my experience on your server. Plain and simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sm0ker (DayZ) 4 Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) i understand what you are saying i am asking you to understand what i am saying. i have offered to give your gear back that you had before the event. and am asking you to please just remove the topic. as you could have handled this on our website Edited January 31, 2013 by sm0ker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites