dayz original?

[Tumoa 359]

i have seen many people saying dayz is most original game EVAH! Or this game has so much originality etc. but i don't see non i'm sorry but zombies are done to "death" (see what i did there) there are hundreds zombie games resident evil, zombies ete my neighbors, left 4 dead and many others survival games has being done before try stranded or lost in blue. oh first "true" zombie survival game was project zomboid. so tell my whats so original in this game because i see nothing.

[Dancing.Russian.Man 1631]

DayZ is not original.

Permadeath, zombies, loot, open-world survival, and the entire concept of DayZ is already done.

It even started off as a mod inspired by Chernarus Apocalypse.

[declan223@gmail.com 271]

Hey, at least it's more original than WarZ

[Tumoa 359]

Hey, at least it's more original than WarZ

yeah kind of i really can't say haven't played it

[boxman80 964]

What Day Z has done is it has defined the genre on a wider scale. People now can associate a game with what Zombie survival/sandbox and other developers now have a recognised and popular benchmark.

Plus, don't forget that the Day Z we are all playing now is a much watered down version of the mod that was first released last year, and in my opinion that was truly original in that it wasn't meant to be a balanced game.

Edited January 24, 2013 by Box

[aussiestig 681]

DayZ is not original.

Permadeath, zombies, loot, open-world survival, and the entire concept of DayZ is already done.

It even started off as a mod inspired by Chernarus Apocalypse.

Chernarus Apocalypse has no open world survival. It's extremely liniar. There is no permadeath, you respawn as another character, and come in with your friends again. There is no loot either, just ammo boxes.

While dayz is not a completely new idea, it has a whole bunch of ideas crammed into one to make a new idea. An open world survival game with perma death, random spawn points, and effectively no loot on spawn has been done before.

[the_french_guy 4]

anyhow there is some originality in part of the mod but not all of it now we all agree ok ^^

[Dancing.Russian.Man 1631]

Chernarus Apocalypse has no open world survival. It's extremely liniar. There is no permadeath, you respawn as another character, and come in with your friends again. There is no loot either, just ammo boxes.

While dayz is not a completely new idea, it has a whole bunch of ideas crammed into one to make a new idea. An open world survival game with perma death, random spawn points, and effectively no loot on spawn has been done before.

You misunderstood my post.

I added an empty line in the middle to separate two different thoughts.

I never said that Chernarus Apocalypse had permadeath, or was open-world survival, or lacked story like DayZ.

But frankly, you can't say that it's not a Chernarus Apocalypse inspired mod, as Rocket himself said that he massively enjoyed the mod and has taken some ideas from it. This is why I said it was a Chernarus Apocalypse-INSPIRED.

inspired

1. resulting from such inspiration: an inspired poem; an inspired plan.

inspiration

1. an inspiring or animating action or influence: I cannot write poetry without inspiration.

2. something inspired, as an idea.

[aussiestig 681]

You misunderstood my post.

I added an empty line in the middle to separate two different thoughts.

I never said that Chernarus Apocalypse had permadeath, or was open-world survival, or lacked story like DayZ.

But frankly, you can't say that it's not a Chernarus Apocalypse inspired mod, as Rocket himself said that he massively enjoyed the mod and has taken some ideas from it. This is why I said it was a Chernarus Apocalypse-INSPIRED.

Fair point, I guess I should have read it properly.

He wasn't just inspired by it though. He was playing it one day with some friends, and said "I can make a game 1000x better than this" and after not doing so for half a year, he did.

[Dancing.Russian.Man 1631]

Fair point, I guess I should have read it properly.

He wasn't just inspired by it though. He was playing it one day with some friends, and said "I can make a game 1000x better than this" and after not doing so for half a year, he did.

That is exactly what "being inspired to do something" means.

[Raithron 9]

Huh interesting never heard of this before

[person915 345]

DayZ is not an original game, and I agree, zombies have been done to death. Been waiting for the next stage to come in, because before zombies popped back up it was more knights and vampires.

BUT.

DayZ is unique in that it offers experiences that are completely authentic and no games have been able to offer or effectively. It has no UIs, GUIs (barely), or in-game mechanics, but it works well that way!

In fact, I've always wanted them to have audible and visual representations you see about your character instead of using icons, but still have them available (incase someone is deaf or something). In that way you'd go even further down the NO GUIs road.

Other than that, you do forget, that DayZ is a mod. A mod. Not a game, like Project Zomboid. That's saying enough to give it immense credit.

There's that, and DayZ is basically the Dead Island that we all expected and we all wanted.

I thought DI was going to be about the tragedy of it all...based on the trailer. Big letdown...

Edited January 24, 2013 by Neko-san

[aussiestig 681]

That is exactly what "being inspired to do something" means.

Inspiration isn't really taking something and making it better now is it?

[Dancing.Russian.Man 1631]

Inspiration isn't really taking something and making it better now is it?

No, that would be innovation.

But seeing something that makes you want to make something of your own that is somewhat based on the thing that originally gave you the idea or concept, is called inspiration.

If a concept artist sees a rare bird with odd colors, and later down the line comes up with a fantasy specie that has some(even if vague) traits of the rare bird, it could be argued that he was inspired by said bird. Even if he wasn't consciously trying to make something similar to it, as we humans are inspired all the time by our environment. We might not notice it, but it happens.

[victusmortuus 1074]

i have seen many people saying dayz is most original game EVAH! Or this game has so much originality etc. but i don't see non i'm sorry but zombies are done to "death" (see what i did there) there are hundreds zombie games resident evil, zombies ete my neighbors, left 4 dead and many others survival games has being done before try stranded or lost in blue. oh first "true" zombie survival game was project zomboid. so tell my whats so original in this game because i see nothing.

The Zombie genre is a genre lost by the console cycle -one game is made others copy, cycles and cycles until I get bored and buy a PC-, The Zombie genre is about this ' "to criticize real-world social ills—such as government ineptitude, bioengineering, slavery, greed and exploitation—while indulging our post-apocalyptic fantasies For example. DayZ does these things in bold and sticks to 'my' vision of what a Zombie game should be like.

Now let's have a look around at other games that do this...oh wait there are none, Left 4 Dead is a mindless shooter, Dead Island is Left 4 Dead with a bit of free roam, Resident Evil hasn't belonged to the Zombie genre since number 2, more likely Resident Evil is in the mutant genre, similar to that of L4D and DI (Mutant zombies which don't make gameplay better IMO).

As for the Zombie genre being 'done to death' well it genuinely isn't, perhaps you could have a case for shooters but Zombie games? Nope, especially not done right.

Edited January 24, 2013 by Victus Mortuus

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

A famous saying:

"there is nothing new under the sun"

What DayZ has done is bring an accesible apocalyptic simulator to game players. Yes there are many zombie games out there, but most are non survival based and just shooters.

If something terrible happened with a zombie scenario, you can pretty much say, whats in DayZ will be what it is like in a survival situation. Resources would be your first priority and protection also.

I do many survival weekends, You and your mates stuck in the middle of nowhere with only what you take and what you find to eat, we also go Urban exploring, Finding places to go and "explore" we have found some old dis-used and abandoned places which remind me of DayZ and Stalker. the thrill of RL activities similar to the feeling of DayZ. the only difference is no infected or zombies. I have RL bases in hidden pockets of the Moors, Lakes and Yorkhire dales were I can escape from the crap of daily life if need be. For me DayZ is original in how it makes players feel, this is one reason people don't like DayZ because it takes away their comfort blanket, making them feel more than many other games do.

Edited January 24, 2013 by Michaelvoodoo25

[RJTurneR 112]

It's not perfect, but DayZ is as close as you will get to playing a game which represents survivng in a zombie infected country/world. Games like L4D, DI, or even CoD Zombies are really not zombie games, more like entertaining FPS shooters were for once no one is actually shooting back. They are all very streamlined, theres only ever one outcome. In DayZ, you could say there is also only ever one outcome, which like the rest, is death. But there are more factors to it with DayZ, more varitation, each day you play is completly different from the last. In DayZ, its you that can make the choice of who lives, who dies, where, when, and why. Not the game.

That's why sandbox games like Arma/DayZ have become so successful, because if you want to do something, you can do it.

[Mr Nasty 1023]

i have seen many people saying dayz is most original game EVAH! Or this game has so much originality etc. but i don't see non i'm sorry but zombies are done to "death" (see what i did there) there are hundreds zombie games resident evil, zombies ete my neighbors, left 4 dead and many others survival games has being done before try stranded or lost in blue. oh first "true" zombie survival game was project zomboid. so tell my whats so original in this game because i see nothing.

Im not really going to attempt to debate the originality of this game with someone who compares it to Resident Evil and L4D. Just silly. In case you've been living under a rock the last decade or so nothing is 100% original these days.

troll troll troll your boat.....

[Tumoa 359]

Im not really going to attempt to debate the originality of this game with someone who compares it to Resident Evil and L4D. Just silly. In case you've been living under a rock the last decade or so nothing is 100% original these days.

troll troll troll your boat.....

i never said both games were similar i said both had zombies in it

[Mr Nasty 1023]

i never said both games were similar i said both had zombies in it

OK just for grins. Please list a few original games or at least what you would consider 'original'.

[Bat (DayZ) 230]

I think DayZ is original, the concept is not. A mix of MMO, with persistency across servers, FPS, and survival game. Many people dreamt about it years before Arma 2 even existed.

But it takes a solid technology+talented developers to realise the concept properly. So original in the sense it's never been made before, but not original because everyone was dreaming about it.

[dallas 5195]

Zombies have already been done to death, but it hasn't really been done correctly. The closest thing to perfectoin was probably the browser game Urban Dead. There's nothing new about ArmA, it's basically the same core elements since CWC and there's not much new to it's modding community. They still keep BI's titles alive, long after other games expired, with high quality addons, mods and missions.

DayZ is completely unoriginal, except for one thing: The real emotions it invokes.

Edited January 24, 2013 by Dallas

[Tumoa 359]

OK just for grins. Please list a few original games or at least what you would consider 'original'.

don't know any ss13 perhaps but no

[myskaal 50]

Hmm. I don't think anyone is saying the concepts within DayZ are original. More, the experience of playing DayZ is unique.

[Tumoa 359]

Hmm. I don't think anyone is saying the concepts within DayZ are original. More, the experience of playing DayZ is unique.

unique and original are not same thing