Humanity!

[MajorAhlberg 1]

Hey guys!

Im new to dayz and the first day i killed two people when i got stressed in a farm, soo i got the bandit skin.

My problem is that i dont wanna be a bandit and im trying to raise by using blood bag and bandages on

my friends. My question is, can i see how much humanity i have in some way?

I heard from a friend who recently started playing again that there was a little square showing the humanity.

Is it some setting we have turned off or have the square been permanently removed?

Thanks in advance!

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

You have to find a private hive with debug monitors to see your humanity other than that your winging it

[person915 345]

You have to find a private hive with debug monitors to see your humanity other than that your winging it

At that point it wouldn't matter, because a private hive would have him as a regular survivor because it doesn't save previous character data.

[MajorAhlberg 1]

Soo there is no way to see it if i play on a regular server?

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

At that point it wouldn't matter, because a private hive would have him as a regular survivor because it doesn't save previous character data.

Correct however this was the question.

My question is, can i see how much humanity i have in some way?

I heard from a friend who recently started playing again that there was a little square showing the humanity.

Is it some setting we have turned off or have the square been permanently removed?

[victusmortuus 1074]

Hey guys!

Im new to dayz and the first day i killed two people when i got stressed in a farm, soo i got the bandit skin.

My problem is that i dont wanna be a bandit and im trying to raise by using blood bag and bandages on

my friends. My question is, can i see how much humanity i have in some way?

I heard from a friend who recently started playing again that there was a little square showing the humanity.

Is it some setting we have turned off or have the square been permanently removed?

Thanks in advance!

I don't have the game but that just sounds so awesome :D

[Gator Biggs 22]

At that point it wouldn't matter, because a private hive would have him as a regular survivor because it doesn't save previous character data.

not true.. there are some private hives where your humanity score sticks. i die all the time, and im still a hero.

[person915 345]

not true.. there are some private hives where your humanity score sticks. i die all the time, and im still a hero.

This does not make sense to me, what you are saying.

I'll do my best to explain this well, so I don't mess it up and there's no confusion. So don't think I'm making fun of you for explaining it in this manner, it's more for me.

Tom plays DayZ, Tom plays on public hives. Tom is a bandit on public hives, and wants to see how much humanity he needs to become a regular survivor again. With the new updates, Tom cannot see his humanity. Tom joins another public hive, but still can't see his humanity.

Tom joins a private hive where the debug monitor is shown, so he can see his humanity, but Tom already has a regular survivor skin again. Excited, Tom rejoins his public hive server, and sees he is still a bandit.

Tom looks up and finds out public hive characters do not carry over into private hives. Tom does not want to play on private hives, he wants to play on his public hive, but see how much humanity he has.

This is what I'm saying. You cannot see your humanity on pretty much and licensed public hive, and when you join a private hive, it doesn't matter because your character won't carry over from before and you will be a survivor again.

What I think you thought I meant was that when you die, you get all your humanity reset. No, I did not mean that at all.

If this doesn't clear it up then just explain what you think I mean.

Edited January 13, 2013 by Neko-san

[klesh 2423]

My question is, can i see how much humanity i have in some way?

Nope. The debug monitor that displayed your humanity and a few other stats was removed a few updates ago.

[OrLoK 16187]

Im new to dayz and the first day i killed two people when i got stressed in a farm, soo i got the bandit skin.

Consequenses, I love 'em.

Edited January 13, 2013 by orlok
I cant spell konseqwenses

[SmashT 10907]

not true.. there are some private hives where your humanity score sticks. i die all the time, and im still a hero.

I think you misunderstood, he was saying his public hive character data and humanity wouldn't carry over to the private hive.

[Ansssi 184]

Sooo... You lose humanity for killing bandits and when killing someone, who shot you first, in self-defense? There goes my hero skin.

Edited January 13, 2013 by Ansssi

[klesh 2423]

Sooo... You lose humanity for killing bandits and when killing someone, who shot you first, in self-defense? There goes my hero skin.

No. In both of those situations you would not lose humanity, provided that in the 2nd situation you were actually struck by their projectile.

[klesh 2423]

Additionally, you're doing your signature wrong:

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[Ansssi 184]

No. In both of those situations you would not lose humanity, provided that in the 2nd situation you were actually struck by their projectile.

Well... I killed two guys wearing shemaghs and lost my hero skin for that. Got the skin back some time later and I had to kill a dude who shot and hit me with a makarov. Lost the skin again. Dafuq?

I'm aware of that sig thing, just too lazy to fix it :)

Edited January 13, 2013 by Ansssi

[klesh 2423]

Well... I killed two guys wearing shemaghs and lost my hero skin for that. Got the skin back some time later and I had to kill a dude who shot and hit me with a makarov. Lost the skin again. Dafuq?

:huh:

Very strange. As far as I can recall, both of those situations should've seen your humanity stay the same.

[person915 345]

:huh:

Very strange. As far as I can recall, both of those situations should've seen your humanity stay the same.

This. Is. DayZ!

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Alpha mod.

Edited January 14, 2013 by Neko-san

[dallas 5195]

I think the less humanity a player has, the less humanity it costs to kill him.

My advise to OP is to continue playing and avoid killing other players for the next one or two sessions. As long as you're actively playing, you're regenerating humanity slowly. Two kills would land you around minus 2-3000 humanity and once your humanity reaches 2000, you'll regain the survivor skin. I suggest you take a trip into the wilderness, check out some of the small northern villages and after a couple of hours in the middle of nowhere(3-4?), you'll probably be back in your survivor skin.

If you shoot a bandit, which has almost regained his survivor skin, his humanity is actually positive, so you might actually lose humanity for murdering him, unlike killing a bandit with minus 100.000 humanity.

[person915 345]

I think the less humanity a player has, the less humanity it costs to kill him.

My advise to OP is to continue playing and avoid killing other players for the next one or two sessions. As long as you're actively playing, you're regenerating humanity slowly. Two kills would land you around minus 2-3000 humanity and once your humanity reaches 2000, you'll regain the survivor skin. I suggest you take a trip into the wilderness, check out some of the small northern villages and after a couple of hours in the middle of nowhere(3-4?), you'll probably be back in your survivor skin.

If you shoot a bandit, which has almost regained his survivor skin, his humanity is actually positive, so you might actually lose humanity for murdering him, unlike killing a bandit with minus 100.000 humanity.

But I have been actively playing a lot more hours than killing and have not gotten any skin change before, even on a private hive with a survivor skin that I killed no one on playing for about 10 hours. Does it only regen to survivor, nowhere passed that?

[dallas 5195]

You can only regenerate up to 2500 humanity, regenerating humanity doesn't make you a hero, you need 5000 humanity to become a hero. Humanity regeneration only stops you from being a bandit. To become a hero, you have to earn humanity by helping other players.

You start out with 2500 humanity.

You lose your survivor skin at 0.

You regenerate about 30 humanity per minute, humanity regeneration stops at 2500.

You regain your survivor skin at 2000.

You regain humanity from helping people with bandages, morphine injections and blood bags.

You gain a hero skin at 5000.

If you murder someone you'll most likely lose your survivor skin. You'll most likely end up with -300 humanity. So you'll roughly lose 2500-3000 humanity per murder, depending on your victim's own humanity level. You'll regain about 30 humanity per minute, so for one murder you'll have to regenerate about 2300 humanity, roughly 76 minutes of actively playing. Two murders 3 hours.

[person915 345]

You can only regenerate up to 2500 humanity, regenerating humanity doesn't make you a hero, you need 5000 humanity to become a hero. Humanity regeneration only stops you from being a bandit. To become a hero, you have to earn humanity by helping other players.

You start out with 2500 humanity.

You lose your survivor skin at 0.

You regenerate about 30 humanity per minute, humanity regeneration stops at 2500.

You regain your survivor skin at 2000.

You regain humanity from helping people with bandages, morphine injections and blood bags.

You gain a hero skin at 5000.

If you murder someone you'll most likely lose your survivor skin. You'll most likely end up with -300 humanity. So you'll roughly lose 2500-3000 humanity per murder, depending on your victim's own humanity level. You'll regain about 30 humanity per minute, so for one murder you'll have to regenerate about 2300 humanity, roughly 76 minutes of actively playing. Two murders 3 hours.

We need a system so that when I kill a survivor who I've been watching on Elektro fire station roof for 10 minutes asking him to just simply say friendly as he frantically runs around with an AK looking for me I don't lose humanity, as he is a threat. A lot of people just get shortchanged and end up with a bandit skin or less humanity, which isn't fair. I have to say that when guns fire it needs to be proximity and then it should be like this:

Tom fires at George.

George is a survivor, 2000 H

Tom is a survivor newspawn, 2500 on his way to bandithood

George kills Tom

Since Tom fired at George, and in proximity, George does not lose humanity, but if Tom had killed George, he would have lost humanity, if in this situation killing a survivor skin with less humanity than you would warrant a decrease in humanity.

Then of course we can have all the other factors as well

Basically, it's like at school, when no one wants to hit first.

Well, with a system in place like this, anyone who needs self-defense can have it, and fights and bandits happen for the right reasons.

This isn't a suggestion thread though, so just leave this where it be, I don't want to make this thread off-topic.

[Ansssi 184]

I got hero skin back twice today - but when I left the server I got it on and joined another server, the skin was gone, twice. What am I doing wrong???

Edited January 15, 2013 by Ansssi

[Dr. Goner 661]

No. In both of those situations you would not lose humanity, provided that in the 2nd situation you were actually struck by their projectile.

Not necessarily true. It is either buggy or I missed something because last night I killed someone who had me wounded to the point of bandages and morphine and my skin changed to a bandit. By missing something I mean there was another player there who wounded me. Which I seriously doubt because I came out and checked the body after and no one shot at me.